reply to post by poet1b
I don't know what religion you are claiming to have brought white man up from ignorance, or lack of civilization, but it can't be the
catholic religion, which set western man back essentially a thousand years.
Correct. Quite correct. That too is my read of the history.
There is little difference in the economic and spiritual fruit produced by the Communists and the Church at Rome in the nations over which they
dominated. For the purposes of this argument you can say they are the same. You can see this template in Central and South America. No middle class in
many of the countries...for they certainly have the resources.
In short...there is no other factor outside of Religion which will determine the standard of living of a nation and its people. This is so contrary to
public education standards today. Public education would put it down to intellect and education. Well ...Soviet Russia disproves that theory.
By the way...this template I am describing above is precisely the direction in which the United States is tending....by
intellect..gnosticism..sophism...wise men in positions of power. Oh....and this too is a religion. Thus meaning you need to have the right religion in
place..not just any religion.
This also means that historically ..most religions of men tended towards feudalism...which was what communism was and still is. Which is what the RCC
is as well.
The way I was taught history in school in the midwest of the U.S. is that western Europeans were essentially without civilization until
around the 1500's. This is complete nonsense,
This is indeed nonsense. It doesnt even make good nonsense when one knows the history. Much of European Civilization Was indeed destroyed and
restructured by the RCC who put the crowns on the heads of most of the feudal Sovereigns.
I see a very logical reason why the people who have gained control over the U.S. knock down our enemies, and then pick them back up, because
they use this as a weapon against the middle class. Prosperity for the common man is not what the elites of the world want. This is why they encourage
discrimination, and racism, and the race baiters.
What is being done is a series of wars, peace, and manipulations in order to control markets....on both ends...manufacturing as well as resources and
the means to ship and tranship. This is not a new history. It is quite ancient. It is however constantly covered up by occult esoteric religious means
so that outsiders or the profane do not see its fingerprint.
Yes if race , sex, wars, strife, or even peace is necessary to keep this hidden...this is the tack they will take. Politicians and social engineers
are merely tools in the facility towards this end. This means that the public ..the profane are also tools in this end. Nations/governments
themselves are merely tools.
The United States is a boot lacky in this scheme of things. This is obvious by my telling of Americans being stupid enough to go to war and not
bring home any spoils. It means we are fighting someone else's wars..not our own. For someone else's lucre..not ours. We have been doing this since
at least the Boxer Rebellion/Spanish American War..if not longer.
One needs to go to public school to get stupid enough to not catch on to the fingerprint....over and over and over.
This is why it is so pitiful when you see people with only race, sex..or other placebo issues as their total bailywick...their total menu.
I will now tell you of an event which happened to me twice in dealing with religion. This event confirmed for me what I had been thinking for a number
of years. I have posted this before on another thread but it escapes me at the moment as to which one.
I have had, at different times, conversations with what I knew to be two Occult Luciferians. They were being as frank with me as was possible under
the oath they had taken required by their religion. I asked them a series of questions concerning the United States and the world itself.
What I asked them was questions to the effect that the template of what we see happening around us is not the template of how things are supposed to
work by the charters of our governments. In effect, I was asking them if there are two versions of history happening and had happened in the past.
They confirmed this..yes this is what was happening and had happened. That we are not getting a true picture in our educations about the history of
the world and our nation. That there were two systems in play here. The one the public thinks and what is actually happening and known only to the
I then stated that this inside system is not known by most of the public and is religiously based. They confirmed this..yes it was true.
I asked that if this system was overlaid on top of what we thought was supposed to be happening by the charter of our government ...was this not
actually a counterfeit system. A hijacking of our lawful system.
Yes it was a hijacking a counterfeit.
If it was indeed a religion..and a counterfeit overlaying our lawful system..hijacking it....give me the name of the counterfeiter...the counterfeit
The look in the eyes of these two was startling. They were totally unprepared for this last question. There was a look of doubt and fear in their
eyes. I was not supposed to be able to or think far enough to ask such a question.
Both of them told me similar statements. They were under oath...they could not answer that question. They could not tell me the name of the god.
Now... I'm going to tell you poet1b...that is a very strange thing for someone not to be able to tell you the name of their god. Find that one in a
college or pubic school course?? You are never given enough informations to be able to think that far.
Once I knew and understood this template for what it is..I can look at folks like Grand Puba and others and know what they are about. That they have
indeed taken a huge bite out of the apple...they have institutionalized the apple as a lifestlye.
I can look at our politicians making speechs and know the name of thier god. I can look into our current sitting president and know his god as well as
the president elect..by thier own words and know. Their is no difference in thier religion or thier god. It is not what is advertised to the
By the way...poet1b...this religion in view of the topic line by the OP is very very feminine...once you know. I dont mean feminine as in female..I
mean feminine as in this world and the power of this world...the god of this world. The flesh. This is why the template of what is being described by
the OP must come to pass. The power and authority must pass to the political victims. The risks to maintain this must pass to those who will work.
This is a restructuring. The power and authority will eventually pass to the body politic and the adepts. You are then back to feudalism.
This is also why folks like Grand Puba..must always keep the debate points in the flesh...it is all they know...their total bailywick. Without it
..they have nothing. Guilt conditioning and victimization must follow by entitlement.
It is the prefered tool nowdays to put people on the defensive and allow others to play through unquestioned and unaccountable. It is politics/social
engineering and part of the occult religion I am describing.
Thanks for your post.
[edit on 19-12-2008 by orangetom1999]