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reply posted on 18-12-2008 @ 04:26 PM by dooper

reply to post by magicmushroom

Well, Mushroom, you once again asked.

Just since 9/11/01, there have been over 10,000 deadly attacks by Muslims, occurring at a rate of 3-4 per day. These are not attacks over money, personal anger, and they do not include combat deaths in Afghanistan or Iraq. These are particularly heinous attacks on men, women, and children.

These 10,000 attacks are strictly done all over the world out of Muslims religious duty. Religious Duty. My God.

"The hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say, 'Oh Muslim! There is a Jew behind me so kill him!'" Bukhari 52:177

In 2007, brave Islamic warriors tricked an eight year old boy in Sangin to push a bomb laden cart into the market, where it was remotely detonated.

A thirteen year old boy was used to detonate an explosive vest in Helmand province, killing a couple British soldiers.

A dozen Pakistani children were being "conditioned" by feeding them heroin to groom them to become suicide bombers.

Islam. The Peaceful religion. With a body count sky high.

"Oh ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty." Qur'an 9:123

Jews are in Israel. No one will let it rest. Not Syrian Muslims, not Pakistani Muslims, not Saudi Muslims, not Iraqi Muslims, not Iranian Muslims, not Egyptian Muslims, and not even "palestinians" or Gazans.

In 2007, Islam and Judaism's holiest holidays overlapped by 10 days. During this period of 10 days, Muslims racked up 397 murders, through 94 terrorist attacks, across 10 countries.

Jews, during that same period, worked on obtaining their 159th Nobel Prize.

To suggest that Islam is a peaceful religion is a hideous joke.

reply posted on 18-12-2008 @ 04:28 PM by ufoorbhunter

reply to post by magicmushroom

You forget to mention THE reason Israel exists; Russian Imperialist policies towards the Jews and Hitlers policies too. Without them Israel would probably not exist. But it does and was handed on a plate by Britain who did control the region through a League of Nations Mandate. BTW The League like the UN wass never going to be over influenced by the likes of Ethiopia, it was a creation of the powers that controlled the planet. Britain owned Israel pure and simple like SA owned Namibia, they had Tommies on the ground and controlled the legal system. it was theirs to do with as they pleased and eventually they handed the land to the State of Israel.

reply posted on 18-12-2008 @ 04:35 PM by magicmushroom

I dont trust those figures one bit, there are too many lies in the western media. But you are right some Muslims do train to kill and fight and the funny thing is we do exactly the same. We are not even certain who was behind 9/11 yet millions of Iraqis have died for it havent they.

And are you really suprised that people are trying to kill us. or do you think that its OK for us to kill rob and murder wholesale and expect nothing back. And its strange hat the 7 million Muslims in America havent taken up the cause have they. Their is no evidence of any terrorist involvment with them is there.

No its all to easy to believe the lies and corruption. Yet one still cannot get past the fact that if you attack and invade other countries on lies, kill the populace men women and children why do you cry when they hit back. Its the least what I would expect. If they were really motivated they could do us some real harm but it is us who commit real harm upon them.

I would have more respect for your statements if they did not come straight out of the daily gabage news but alas they do so no real proof or credibility.

reply posted on 18-12-2008 @ 04:40 PM by dooper

reply to post by masonwatcher

Mason, I have no idea who this was intended for, but it was suppose to be in response to me?

I also have no idea on what you're now fabricating about cluster bombs???

In Mogadishu?

You might want to study up on the material before making comments.

And by the way, cluster bombs work absolutely great on personnel. And if you get real technical, all the Muslim warriors in Afghanistan, and all the fighting in Iraq Part Two has been done by civilians.

All those guys shooting AK's and RPG's? Civilians. Not one uniform in many, many years.

That' why I find it funny that Blackwater boys were accused of killing civilians!

Hell, there's nothing but civililans doing the shooting and killing.

Study up. It makes your replies more contributory.

reply posted on 18-12-2008 @ 04:41 PM by magicmushroom

ufoor, I think you paint a too simplistic picture, the Tommies did not hand over anything, what happened was that the Jews that settled there after the war and they took up arms aganst the British fighting as terrorists against the UK who eventually caved in and the state of Israel was formed.

So basically from day one the Jews took the land by force and have done so ever since. One cannot get away from he truth of the matter and that is the truth. It was always going to be a bad idea to displace the indigenous arabs over the favoured Jewish people. But then I suppose if large areas of the USA was going to be handed backs to the native Indians that would provike a similar conflict would it not.

Lets face it people come to blows fighting over a garden fence so why is this any different.

reply posted on 18-12-2008 @ 04:47 PM by masonwatcher

reply to post by magicmushroom

Settlers attacking Palestinians such as the recent murder attempt in Hebron, which was caught on video, are mainly from the eastern states of the US, mainly Brooklyn.

These settlers on the occupied territories come from a handful of yeshivas in Brooklyn and are major centres of criminality that involves the ecstasy trade, diamond smuggling and paedophilia.

Please check out this links to the Awareness Center, which is a Jewish led disclosure site;

www.theawarenesscenter.org...

The Jews fighting against zionism, zionist crimes and abuse are not 'self hating Jews' but are people of conscience.

Another link;

exposemolesters.blogspot.com...

reply posted on 18-12-2008 @ 04:52 PM by ufoorbhunter

reply to post by magicmushroom

Garden fence......well it's pretty similar. USA craeted by invaders like so many places, national survival ends in nation states. USA just like Israel. New states created very recently. Israel a domino effect following the Tsars and Hitler. That's history but true history. It's the here and now that counts. So if Israel gives up land, how about all the land owned by Jews pre 1939 being returned in Europe AND in North Africa AND in the Middle East? All the wealth in land and houses and businesses? It just won't happen will it? Just like Israel isn't going to hand itself over either. Let's live in the here and now.

reply posted on 18-12-2008 @ 04:53 PM by Wildbob77

reply to post by magicmushroom

Jews started migrating back to the area called Palestine in the late 1800s.

They came in several large migration waves. Much of the land they settled on was legally purchased from the people that lived there.

That occurred before the UN created the state of Israel.

reply posted on 18-12-2008 @ 04:59 PM by ufoorbhunter

reply to post by Wildbob77

Absolutely true. Jews also lived continuously in the region since Rome. What all the pro terror folk will never mention is the fact that most of the present day (so labelled) Pals were infact Jews! They were the missing link that proves Israel to be Israel proper as they were Jewish long way back before Islam was born. These descendents of the Jews live in a Jewish state!

reply posted on 18-12-2008 @ 05:03 PM by masonwatcher

reply to post by Wildbob77

Those migrations did happen but the were not large, a few thousands. We have many thousands coming to the UK from abroad every year and they do buy houses and businesses but it does not mean the bought the country.

Christians, Muslims from abroad and Jews have always travelled to the Holy Lands. The Palestinians were forbidden from stopping the 'People of the Book' from pilgrimage or religious studies.

reply posted on 18-12-2008 @ 11:29 PM by dooper

reply to post by magicmushroom

Magic, you don't trust my numbers? In the month of December alone, and by the way, the month isn't over yet, there have been 75 Muslim attacks killing (I keep losing count. My apologies.)

12/18/08 3 killed, 47 wounded Muslim bombs in Christian shopping in Phillipines.

12/17/08 Woman killed, child injured RPG attack in Jamrud, Pak.

12/17/08 Man shot & killed by Islamic extremists in Wana, Pak.

12/17/08 18 killed, 53 wounded Baghdad bombing

12/17/08 16 yr/old boy shot to death in Yala, Thailand

12/17/08 Couple killed for premarital sex Kanju, Pak.

12/16/08 2 Guards escorting teacher gunned down Pattani, Thail.

12/16/08 3 killed, including woman, one wounded market Yala, Thail.

12/16/08 3 killed 15 wounded college bombing Baghdad

12/16/08 8 killed 16 wounded, suicide bomber Mosul

12/16/08 2 gunned down/killed separate attacks Swat, Pak.

12/16/08 13-yr/old boy killed by bomber Baghdad.

12/15/08 53-yr/old man gunned down by Muslim terr @ food shop.

12/15/08 7 killed, 3 wounded in family killed by Sunni.

12/15/08 9 killed, 31 wounded Police car bomb checkpoint Khan Dhari

12/15/08 2 killed 1 wounded, inc/4-yr.old shot by Islamists Narathiwat Th.

12/15/08 6KLD 3WND (2 Beheaded) by Taliban Swat, Pak.

12/15/08 1 KLD 1WND father/son Female suicide bomber Tarmiya, Iraq

This isn't even four days worth.

Magic, I can document these religious killings and continue right down the line. Day after day, month after month, year after year.

I stand by my statement. Over 10,000 deadly attacks since 9/11/01 by Muslims in the pursuit of their religion - ISLAM.

We may disagree, but I'll never lie to you or pull numbers out of my nether region.

To restate my claim, the religion of those surrounding Israel, including the Gazans, is the most hateful, miserable group of backward-assed people in the world.

This isn't about territory in Gaza. This is about religious hatred.

And for all of you out there, soon coming to a theater near you!

[edit on 18-12-2008 by dooper]

reply posted on 19-12-2008 @ 05:42 AM by t0ken

Originally posted by dooper
reply to post by magicmushroom

I stand by my statement. Over 10,000 deadly attacks since 9/11/01 by Muslims in the pursuit of their religion - ISLAM.

Nice list, but can you list me all the attacks that took place by muslims before 9/11 at this rate/nature?

First US invades afghanistan trying to get rid of OBL and taliban but none of those have been accomplished till now.Than US invades iraq to rape its resources ohh and no WMDs were found.So who has the US been bombing and killing all along?

Dropping daisy cutters tora bora style only kills a ton of civillians which result in more hatred and killing.

Droping napalms and clusters in iraq resulted in over a million civillians dead.

Funny that you mentioned blackwater,for them iraq was a training ground sniping kids from roof tops and shooting civillians as 'suspected terrorists'.

Than theres people like you that say its ISlam's fault?

Seriously, too much ignorance is not good!

reply posted on 19-12-2008 @ 06:35 AM by masonwatcher

Originally posted by dooper
reply to post by magicmushroom

Magic, you don't trust my numbers? In the month of December alone, and by the way, the month isn't over yet, there have been 75 Muslim attacks killing (I keep losing count. My apologies.)

12/18/08 3 killed, 47 wounded Muslim bombs in Christian shopping in Phillipines.

12/17/08 Woman killed, child injured RPG attack in Jamrud, Pak.

12/17/08 Man shot & killed by Islamic extremists in Wana, Pak.

12/17/08 18 killed, 53 wounded Baghdad bombing

12/17/08 16 yr/old boy shot to death in Yala, Thailand

12/17/08 Couple killed for premarital sex Kanju, Pak.

12/16/08 2 Guards escorting teacher gunned down Pattani, Thail.

12/16/08 3 killed, including woman, one wounded market Yala, Thail.

12/16/08 3 killed 15 wounded college bombing Baghdad

12/16/08 8 killed 16 wounded, suicide bomber Mosul

12/16/08 2 gunned down/killed separate attacks Swat, Pak.

12/16/08 13-yr/old boy killed by bomber Baghdad.

12/15/08 53-yr/old man gunned down by Muslim terr @ food shop.

12/15/08 7 killed, 3 wounded in family killed by Sunni.

12/15/08 9 killed, 31 wounded Police car bomb checkpoint Khan Dhari

12/15/08 2 killed 1 wounded, inc/4-yr.old shot by Islamists Narathiwat Th.

12/15/08 6KLD 3WND (2 Beheaded) by Taliban Swat, Pak.

12/15/08 1 KLD 1WND father/son Female suicide bomber Tarmiya, Iraq

This isn't even four days worth.

Magic, I can document these religious killings and continue right down the line. Day after day, month after month, year after year.

I stand by my statement. Over 10,000 deadly attacks since 9/11/01 by Muslims in the pursuit of their religion - ISLAM.

We may disagree, but I'll never lie to you or pull numbers out of my nether region.

To restate my claim, the religion of those surrounding Israel, including the Gazans, is the most hateful, miserable group of backward-assed people in the world.

This isn't about territory in Gaza. This is about religious hatred.

And for all of you out there, soon coming to a theater near you!

Silly boy. You got a ticker tape machine going giving details of people who happen to be Muslim from around the world? Heck I am surprised at how little you are producing in your slander campaign. We are talking of nearly 2 billion people. The list you produced is less that what you get on a warm Saturday night in East LA.

In contrast, there are a very special group of people that create more crime and mayhem disproportionate to their numbers. You know who you are. Naughty, very naughty

reply posted on 19-12-2008 @ 07:11 AM by GamerGal

reply to post by masonwatcher

Palestinians did those attacks. Palestinians killed women and children. I guess once again 5 blacks equal 3 humans, thousands of Jews can't even equal 1 person according to you.

reply posted on 19-12-2008 @ 09:29 AM by bodrul

reply to post by GamerGal

lol

JOKER

as soon as i read that i almost fell of my Chair
according to olmert and other Israeli figures Israeli lives are worth more then palestinain lives. (straight from the horses mouth as the saying would go)

their retaliation seems to even account for that when they strike back at cuvilians.

reply to post by masonwatcher

got to admit, he has a decent machine. maybe we should borrow it and set it to people Killed by christians and other faiths (aka US forces) and people from Israeli IDF that killed cuvilians and the numbers.

we should get some large numbers from them.

[edit on 19-12-2008 by bodrul]

reply posted on 19-12-2008 @ 09:55 AM by magicmushroom

Wildbob, you are incorrect, even the Jewish records state that there were only a small number of Jews in Palestine before ww2, the constant movement of people all over the globe do not count. The facts are that Palestine was 90% arab before ww2 thats a known fact one that is even agreed by Jewish historians.

Dooper, no one is claiming that terrorist actions do not occur. they have been hapening for milenia. But he difference now is that every terrorist event commited is now blamed on the Mulsim Population which is a complete lie. Those who are wise no its a lie only the ignorant and the sheeple believe otherwise.

The perps are pushing a holy war and the Palestinians are a classic example, straight away they are labbeled as Mulsims when the majority are not. Its convenient for those with an anti Muslim agenda to make the brain dead think that the only people who are commiting crime are the Muslims when that is patently not true. Are Muslims fighting are there Muslim terrorists yes there are but not in the way you and others see them.

What I find strange here that people who denouce Hitler and the Nazis for what they did to the Jews are now quite happy to have the same views about Muslims. The facts, The jews we were told were inferior, sub human, money grabbers, caused ww1, were perverts, wanted to convert everything to their way of life etc. The Muslims, there sub human, want the world ruled by Islam, are murderers and baby killers are backward, savages etc.

So its the same old song, hate, racism. ignorance, fear, jealousy and all the rest of it. Just like the perps got us hating Jews back then now we are being told to hate Muslims. How quick people are to shed their skin of humanity for the sake of fear ignorance and intollerance, and that goes for all side, colours, races and religions.

reply posted on 20-12-2008 @ 02:18 AM by UScitizen

When it comes to this atrocity our media only tends to show one side of the story and we all know who's side that is.

reply posted on 20-12-2008 @ 02:37 AM by jam321

When it comes to this atrocity our media only tends to show one side of the story and we all know who's side that is.

and Al-Jazeera shows one side of the story as well and we know who's side that is.

Kinda evens things up.

reply posted on 20-12-2008 @ 10:28 AM by masonwatcher

Originally posted by jam321

and Al-Jazeera shows one side of the story as well and we know who's side that is.

Kinda evens things up.

Not really. Al-Jazeera was the only English language Middle Eastern broadcaster until recently. Now Iran broadcasts PressTv to counter the zionist saturation in the anglophone newspapers, local rags, local TV, radio, cinema, specialist yellow press.

The birth pangs of Al Jazeera involved reporters being initially killed by a missile in Afghanistan, a tank shell in Iraq (both captured on live tv) and the then imminent bombardment of its headquarters.

Currently the zionist movement is campaigning to have Press TV designated a terrorist organisation in the US.

www.thetruthseeker.co.uk...

In the midst of zionist misinformation, casual cultural distortions, the misrepresentation of facts, a growing number of Westerners have decided to consider the voices of Middle Easterners.

This does not mean that balance has been achieved nor the lies exposed.

reply posted on 20-12-2008 @ 02:30 PM by dooper

reply to post by masonwatcher

mason, I never cease to be amazed by your complete indifference to any facts that somehow indicate just how wrong you are.

You then resort to personal attacks.

You then resort to name-calling.

You resort to complaining like a little girl when you can't stand your argument on its own two feet.

You resort to fabrication to skewer a point.

I can tell you now that East LA didn't have 111 Islamic attacks, resulting in 857 innocents dead, and 1,568 innocents mangled and wounded in senseless religious attacks during the month of November 2008 alone.

In LA they don't cut off any heads, as happened to a couple just this month.

Aljazeera is one big propoganda machine, spewing disinformation, designed to stir up an ignorant people. Once in a while, it will have a grain of truth, just enough to make their lies more believable.

Typical of pseudo-intellectuals, you just can't get past the facts. Unfortunately, your self perceptions defines your entire tint on the world, undetectable by you, but painfully transparent to others such as myself.

You might want to complain about me to the Mods again. And get a few friends to join you.