Why Didn't WTC #5 & #6 Collapse?, page 3
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reply posted on 14-12-2008 @ 03:39 PM by Yoda411
reply to post by ashamedamerican


More evidence towards bombs in the buildings. I wonder if our evidence will ever be officially supported by the United States Government?



reply posted on 14-12-2008 @ 04:44 PM by thefreepatriot
reply to post by eniac


doesn't explain free fall...... Nist just got cornered and they were forced to admit freefall.. which is really impossible in a normal collapse.. NIST is not to be trusted here is one NIST presentation with students... notice how the student points out the super high temps to the NIST employee.. then notice reaction from employee... anyone with a half a brain can see he got nervous and was lying lol .. Who do you trust.. the firemen who risked there lives or this bozo???? lol



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reply posted on 14-12-2008 @ 05:01 PM by thefreepatriot
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Ex bush admin member states wtc7 is smoking gun excellent speech

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reply posted on 14-12-2008 @ 05:54 PM by cashlink
reply to post by thefreepatriot


Wow! Great video some how I miss this one. Ya! They did underestimate the internet. He is so right about building seven, it is a classic demolition, I thought it was when I started watching all the videos on building seven. I knew my eyes where not deceiving me, only the debunkers where trying to deceiving me.


reply posted on 14-12-2008 @ 08:28 PM by thedman

Why Didn't WTC #5 & #6 Collapse?

I was surprised not to find a thread about this. If there is one and I missed it, I apologize in advance.

Here is a video of WTC building #5 on fire.
If people call WTC building #7 a 'raging inferno' as I have heard some call it, then what would they call this?




Once again *SNIP* - different buildings with different construction

WTC 5/6 were 9 story conventional buildings using standard internal
steel structure

WTC 1/2 used totally different construction methods - using tube
structure with outer shell of lattice columns and inner core columns.

WTC 7 had large span cantilever transfer beams (almost like a bridge) to
support the structure over the Con Ed substation on the lower floors

WTC 5 construction


5 WTC was a steel-framed office building, with 9 stories. The structure was "L"-shaped and occupied the northeast corner of the WTC site. Overall dimensions were 330 by 420 ft (100 by 130 m), with an average area of 120,000 square feet (11,000 m²) per floor.



Floors 4 through 9 suffered partial collapse and/or fire damage. Floors 1-3 were undamaged. Some of the collapse was due to impact from steel and debris from World Trade Center 1 (North Tower). Other collapsed sections were due to fire damage. Portions of internal collapse and burnout were found on upper floors, mainly floors 6-8. The exterior facade suffered severe fire damage. The upper floors (5-9) were on fire after the second tower collapse. A section of the fuselage from United 175 landed on the top of the tower.



The FEMA/ASCE Building Performance Study Team team found that some connections between the structural steel beams failed in the fire. This was most apparent in the collapse of World Trade Center Building 5, where the fireproofing did not protect the connections, causing the structure to fail.[1]


Also parts of WTC 5 collapsed from fire damage - so much with the chant
"No steel frame building collapsed from fire damage...."

WTC 6


Debris from the North tower covered the area near 6 WTC digging a deep crater into the building's basement. The building's ruins were demolished to make way for reconstruction. AMEC Construction handled the demolition,[1] in which the building was weakened and then pulled down with cables.


Now there's that "Pull" thing...





Can see center of building was crushed - almost like a donut

WTC 3 (Marriott Hotel) suffered simialr damage where most of building was
crushed by debris impact yet one corner stood intact



As for WTC 7 - the picture is of the undamaged (By debris) North face

here is video of South face - notice heavy smoke pushing out from most
of the south face


Clips 4 to 8 are of south face - count how many floors can see smoke pouring from



Black building in right foreground is WTC 6, gray concrete building to left
is Verizon (140 West St)


Mod edit: Insult removed.

Courtesy Is Mandatory: Read this link

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reply posted on 14-12-2008 @ 08:39 PM by pteridine
reply to post by ashamedamerican


It appears that the center section of WTC #6 did collapse and the outer walls did not. Perhaps the underlying structure was not as damaged as WTC #7.


reply posted on 14-12-2008 @ 08:54 PM by Anonymous ATS
reply to post by amfirst


Your statement has even been debunked by the official NIST report. NIST, the propaganda source of record has debunked the gash in the side story.

You should at least get on the same page with NIST if you are trying to debunk the reality of controlled demolition. It was a classic controlled demolition. Ask Larry Silverstein.


reply posted on 14-12-2008 @ 09:29 PM by amfirst
www.youtube.com...

Here is the video to prove WTC7 took a big impact from the twin towers. This is the last time I'm going to post this. U guys claim to know it all, than I'm sure u've seen this video.

There's a better video of a helicopter view showing a bunch of debris hitting sraight into WTC7, but I don't remember how to find it, but I bet u guys can if u only look.

There is another video of a fireman on seen before WTC7 callaspe speaking to a reported that they've evacuated people from WTC7 because it was leaning from the impact of the towers, but I'm not going to waste my time and post it, when u guys are too one sided to look at anything else other than what of bunch of kooks tell u.




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reply posted on 14-12-2008 @ 09:40 PM by TylerKing
Originally posted by amfirst
www.youtube.com...

Here is the video to prove WTC7 took a big impact from the twin towers. This is the last time I'm going to post this. U guys claim to know it all, than I'm sure u've seen this video.

There is another video of a fireman on seen before WTC7 callaspe speaking to a reported that they've evacuated people from WTC7 because it was leaning from the impact of the towers, but I'm not going to waste my time and post it, when u guys are too one sided to look at anything else other than what of bunch of kooks tell u.





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Hey I can put smilies in my post too!

See? And keep the name calling up too, your explanations need that to make them a bit more believable.


reply posted on 14-12-2008 @ 09:47 PM by toasted
reply to post by ashamedamerican


" Why Didn't WTC #5 & #6 Collapse? "

That's not a trick question is it?

The very simple answer is,
because they didn't have any explosives in them like the other ones that fell.



reply posted on 14-12-2008 @ 09:50 PM by JPhish
reply to post by thedman


the BBC must have been privy to that information since they predicted that 7 would collapse and not 5 and 6~

it all makes sense now~

what a joke.

ALL of the evidence weighs significantly in favor of controlled demolitions, and NONE of the evidence entertains any notions that they went down another way. I don't see why there's even a debate over it.


reply posted on 15-12-2008 @ 12:44 AM by cashlink
reply to post by thedman


Thedmen, do you think you have just convinced someone that the Government is telling the “truth”. You know it is hard to look at “your” truth especially when it is base on all lies. You cannot prove that a “lie” is true, when it never happened they way the Government said it did.
You are trying to prove a lie is true (no one is buying it.)



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