I find that I only have natural lucid dreams, I mean the only time I reconize that I am dreaming is if in my dream something is going on and thats
when I realize that there is no possible way that I am awake and then I start to control my dreams. It happens mostly when I have a dream that would
normaly be a nightmare I assume. The last one I was I remember happened a week or so ago. I wound up having to fight off Pin Head from the Hell Raisor
movies.
I often wonder what steps I need to take so that maybe I can more consciensly control my dreams. If you have any information to help be become more
controled in my dreaming I would love to hear about it.
Dreams, let's talk about them : Interpretations, lucidity, projection, obe's, precognition, etc, page 1
Topic started on 14-12-2008 @ 01:11 AM by Shakesbeer
It seems more and more people are noticing a greater amount of dreams or dream-recall and maybe other "weird" things surrounding them as of late,
so I thought I would create a thread for general dream chat & consolidation of dream resources.
________
A bit about myself & my dreaming experience if you will:
I am a natural lucid dreamer and have seen & done quiet a few things on that "astral plane", "altered state", or "dream land" however you would like to put it. Being that I always had very good dream recall in the very least while growing up, I have learned quiet a bit about how to interpret and use dreams as a self improvement/empowerment tool (and the implications get more wild from there). I would be happy to offer anyone a different perspective on any of their dreams or visions either in public here on the thread of confidentially via u2u.
I've made my own youtube channel devoted to dreams, astral projection, obe's, & general weirdness(whoslucidwhatnow). My most recent video is one on basic dream interpretation essentially:
Basic 1-2-3 Dreaming & How to Interpret Them
________
Despite what some people will say, all dreams mean something to you, they are subconscious(and sometimes super conscious or "higher self") communication, and everything you see in your dream is a reflection of yourself in some way shape or form. That is very important to remember. Also, nightmares are simply fear that has run un-checked and is now exploiting you. Just as a fun and exciting dream will leave you energized which may manifest as a good day and opportunities taken, operating out of fear will keep you from having a pleasant time and may inhibit your chance at opportunity.
Dreams are a safe place we can face and over come fears, meet and talk to whoever you want, learn lessons, rehearse for big events, have sex with whoever you want, fly around the world, see what's under the sea, view distant galaxies, talk to spirits, see other dimensions, time travel, and most important; understand just who you are as a unique entity soul or and how to accept yourselves & others.
Another good place to start getting an idea of common dreams & general dream sign interpretation is: www.dreammoods.com
who have a fairly extensive dream sign dictionary located here: www.dreammoods.com...
________
An informative dreamer: Robert Moss
I recently found information on the above research (Robert Moss) who I find to be quiet informative and I share quiet a bit of his perspectives on dreams and using them. Below I have a link to the 1st part of a recent interview Robert did on Coast to Coast AM. Here's a clip from the description of the show:
Scholar and dream pioneer Robert Moss discussed dream interpretation and how the lives of historic figures were influenced by dreams. According to him, Sigmund Freud, Albert Einstein, and Harriet Tubman were some of the titans of history who had dreams affect their lives. "I tried to write the inner dimension of history," Moss said of his goals with historical dream research.
He recounted one remarkable dream which was shared between two of America's founding fathers: John Adams and Benjamin Rush. In the dream, experienced by Rush, he was given a book about the "future history of the United States." In it, Rush read that Adams and his longtime political rival had reconciled and that they die on the same day. Seventeen years later, this very turn of events did indeed occur. "The dream was precognitive ... If we have any doubt about the central, vital importance of dreaming in the history of everything, take an example like that and be educated," Moss declared.
Robert Moss (part 1/12)
________
It does appear more and more people are becoming consciously aware of their dreams (as well as conscious in their dreams
) & more people are
trying to get into lucid dreaming too. If you'd like to learn how to do that, I would
highly-highly recommend this book to start:
Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming : By Stephen LaBerge
The author Stephen Laberge is Stanford University Graduate and has done extensive research into the subject. Here is a link to Stephen's website: www.lucidity.com...
________
A Bit About Being Out of Body:
This is an interesting subject as it seems OBE's are yet another phenominon that blurs the lines of reality and what is a dream and what isn't. I know I have had my fair share of these types of experiences within all types of contexts. From the astral projection sense of seeing an "astral body" or "projection" to real-time point-of-consciousness remote viewing-type situations. I actually did a video journal of sorts on OBE's I have had with a tip or two on how to do it thrown in as well:
Where Am I? Some Different Types of Out of Body Experiences (part 1/4)
The proverbial "Grand Daddy" of OBE's though has to be Robert Monroe who is also responsible for founding the Monroe Institute which studies brain hemispheric functions and how they relate to things like OBE's as well development of OBE techniques & tools. One product they develop and sell is Hemi-sync which applies the Binaural beat principle which is also see in products like I-doser.
Below is part 1 of 2 of an interview with Robert Monroe about his 1st OBE experience and subsequent experiences and what he saw, gathered, and learned from the experiences about our spiritual origins and a few other very interesting things.
Robert Monroe on His 1st OBE Experience:
________
Bringing it back to dreams and how they all reflect ourselves...
The terms "synchronicity" and " collective unconscious" where both coined by a man named Carl Gustav Jung. All you "mystics" and people who tend to like to "poo-poo" science should love this fellow as he was the scientific antithesis of the time. He used to work with Sigmund Frued who I am sure many people have heard mentioned before. By in large, Jung was Frued's successor and some might say superior in many ways. I have link this amazing video interview with Carl Jung before his death in 1961 where he actually talks about him and Frued exchanging dream interpretations. He actually spent time on things like Eastern and Western philosophy, alchemy, astrology, sociology, as well as literature and the arts.
His teachings & philosophies definitely live on in everyone's modern paradigm of thought on the subject of dreams whether they are aware of it or not as it shares universal truth(not to say he was always right, but the intention was pure). Now on with the show...
Face to Face with Carl Jung part 1:
#2:
#3:
#4:
________
So, Any interesting dreams lately?
[edit on 14-12-2008 by Shakesbeer]
________
A bit about myself & my dreaming experience if you will:
I am a natural lucid dreamer and have seen & done quiet a few things on that "astral plane", "altered state", or "dream land" however you would like to put it. Being that I always had very good dream recall in the very least while growing up, I have learned quiet a bit about how to interpret and use dreams as a self improvement/empowerment tool (and the implications get more wild from there). I would be happy to offer anyone a different perspective on any of their dreams or visions either in public here on the thread of confidentially via u2u.
I've made my own youtube channel devoted to dreams, astral projection, obe's, & general weirdness(whoslucidwhatnow). My most recent video is one on basic dream interpretation essentially:
Basic 1-2-3 Dreaming & How to Interpret Them
________
Despite what some people will say, all dreams mean something to you, they are subconscious(and sometimes super conscious or "higher self") communication, and everything you see in your dream is a reflection of yourself in some way shape or form. That is very important to remember. Also, nightmares are simply fear that has run un-checked and is now exploiting you. Just as a fun and exciting dream will leave you energized which may manifest as a good day and opportunities taken, operating out of fear will keep you from having a pleasant time and may inhibit your chance at opportunity.
Dreams are a safe place we can face and over come fears, meet and talk to whoever you want, learn lessons, rehearse for big events, have sex with whoever you want, fly around the world, see what's under the sea, view distant galaxies, talk to spirits, see other dimensions, time travel, and most important; understand just who you are as a unique entity soul or and how to accept yourselves & others.
Another good place to start getting an idea of common dreams & general dream sign interpretation is: www.dreammoods.com
who have a fairly extensive dream sign dictionary located here: www.dreammoods.com...
________
An informative dreamer: Robert Moss
I recently found information on the above research (Robert Moss) who I find to be quiet informative and I share quiet a bit of his perspectives on dreams and using them. Below I have a link to the 1st part of a recent interview Robert did on Coast to Coast AM. Here's a clip from the description of the show:
Scholar and dream pioneer Robert Moss discussed dream interpretation and how the lives of historic figures were influenced by dreams. According to him, Sigmund Freud, Albert Einstein, and Harriet Tubman were some of the titans of history who had dreams affect their lives. "I tried to write the inner dimension of history," Moss said of his goals with historical dream research.
He recounted one remarkable dream which was shared between two of America's founding fathers: John Adams and Benjamin Rush. In the dream, experienced by Rush, he was given a book about the "future history of the United States." In it, Rush read that Adams and his longtime political rival had reconciled and that they die on the same day. Seventeen years later, this very turn of events did indeed occur. "The dream was precognitive ... If we have any doubt about the central, vital importance of dreaming in the history of everything, take an example like that and be educated," Moss declared.
Robert Moss (part 1/12)
________
It does appear more and more people are becoming consciously aware of their dreams (as well as conscious in their dreams
) & more people are
trying to get into lucid dreaming too. If you'd like to learn how to do that, I would
highly-highly recommend this book to start: Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming : By Stephen LaBerge
The author Stephen Laberge is Stanford University Graduate and has done extensive research into the subject. Here is a link to Stephen's website: www.lucidity.com...
________
A Bit About Being Out of Body:
This is an interesting subject as it seems OBE's are yet another phenominon that blurs the lines of reality and what is a dream and what isn't. I know I have had my fair share of these types of experiences within all types of contexts. From the astral projection sense of seeing an "astral body" or "projection" to real-time point-of-consciousness remote viewing-type situations. I actually did a video journal of sorts on OBE's I have had with a tip or two on how to do it thrown in as well:
Where Am I? Some Different Types of Out of Body Experiences (part 1/4)
The proverbial "Grand Daddy" of OBE's though has to be Robert Monroe who is also responsible for founding the Monroe Institute which studies brain hemispheric functions and how they relate to things like OBE's as well development of OBE techniques & tools. One product they develop and sell is Hemi-sync which applies the Binaural beat principle which is also see in products like I-doser.
Below is part 1 of 2 of an interview with Robert Monroe about his 1st OBE experience and subsequent experiences and what he saw, gathered, and learned from the experiences about our spiritual origins and a few other very interesting things.
Robert Monroe on His 1st OBE Experience:
________
Bringing it back to dreams and how they all reflect ourselves...
The terms "synchronicity" and " collective unconscious" where both coined by a man named Carl Gustav Jung. All you "mystics" and people who tend to like to "poo-poo" science should love this fellow as he was the scientific antithesis of the time. He used to work with Sigmund Frued who I am sure many people have heard mentioned before. By in large, Jung was Frued's successor and some might say superior in many ways. I have link this amazing video interview with Carl Jung before his death in 1961 where he actually talks about him and Frued exchanging dream interpretations. He actually spent time on things like Eastern and Western philosophy, alchemy, astrology, sociology, as well as literature and the arts.
His teachings & philosophies definitely live on in everyone's modern paradigm of thought on the subject of dreams whether they are aware of it or not as it shares universal truth(not to say he was always right, but the intention was pure). Now on with the show...
Face to Face with Carl Jung part 1:
#2:
#3:
#4:
________
So, Any interesting dreams lately?
[edit on 14-12-2008 by Shakesbeer]
reply posted on 14-12-2008 @ 01:05 PM by Shakesbeer
reply to post by Ant4AU
Very cool. That shows that you're not one to run away from adversity in the very least (kicking pinhead's ass that is). Check out the book I recommended above, it gives detailed step by step instructions on dream construction & tips on how to "wake yourself up" in your dreams. I'm actually going to be doing my own video on just that subject very soon. I've noticed some dream myths (like clocks never work right) starting to make too much headroom and I want to share my perspective on what "waking up" in one's dream actually entails. What it really does come down to though is becoming aware of something you perceive as unusual or anomalous. Some of the techniques you'll hear around the net include, looking at the clock like I mentioned (which more often then not doesn't work "right"), try to open a door, look at your hands, spin yourself around, or play with anything mechanical for that matter, for example.
Another good starting place is to do "reality checks" during your waking life as they will sort of recycle themselves into your subconscious and give you an opportunity to "wake up" during the reply of your day over the course of your dreaming cycle. You do this by taking time during your day and just ask yourself "am I dreaming...?" and do some of the above checks, like seeing if time is moving as it should to you, etc. This gives your conscious mind something to reference in terms of "normal" versus "abnormal" as well as acts as a subconscious seed or opportunity for lucidity when you got to sleep that night.
Another way is to construct a dream that you would like to see before going to bed. Imagine and record it somewhere in the present tense if you feel it necessary(like in a journal or on some scratch paper). The important part is the expression of the intention (or ritual) which turns into a memory which once again becomes a "seed" of sorts which helps to create these lucid opportunities, not to mention will end up being an awesome dream.
There's a few examples of how to gain some control. I'll be sharing more and more techniques as the thread moves along as there are really infinite amount of ways to increase dream control and learn to understand & use them.
Very cool. That shows that you're not one to run away from adversity in the very least (kicking pinhead's ass that is). Check out the book I recommended above, it gives detailed step by step instructions on dream construction & tips on how to "wake yourself up" in your dreams. I'm actually going to be doing my own video on just that subject very soon. I've noticed some dream myths (like clocks never work right) starting to make too much headroom and I want to share my perspective on what "waking up" in one's dream actually entails. What it really does come down to though is becoming aware of something you perceive as unusual or anomalous. Some of the techniques you'll hear around the net include, looking at the clock like I mentioned (which more often then not doesn't work "right"), try to open a door, look at your hands, spin yourself around, or play with anything mechanical for that matter, for example.
Another good starting place is to do "reality checks" during your waking life as they will sort of recycle themselves into your subconscious and give you an opportunity to "wake up" during the reply of your day over the course of your dreaming cycle. You do this by taking time during your day and just ask yourself "am I dreaming...?" and do some of the above checks, like seeing if time is moving as it should to you, etc. This gives your conscious mind something to reference in terms of "normal" versus "abnormal" as well as acts as a subconscious seed or opportunity for lucidity when you got to sleep that night.
Another way is to construct a dream that you would like to see before going to bed. Imagine and record it somewhere in the present tense if you feel it necessary(like in a journal or on some scratch paper). The important part is the expression of the intention (or ritual) which turns into a memory which once again becomes a "seed" of sorts which helps to create these lucid opportunities, not to mention will end up being an awesome dream.
There's a few examples of how to gain some control. I'll be sharing more and more techniques as the thread moves along as there are really infinite amount of ways to increase dream control and learn to understand & use them.
reply posted on 15-12-2008 @ 11:39 AM by Clairaudience
reply to post by Ant4AU
Good to hear that you found your place in spirituality and progress from there, will be meeting us in dreamland sooner or later! Good luck
As a child i had very very many lucid nightmares, also because I had fever many times back then, which seems to increase dreamactivity.. I remember one very good, flying around in white space, and nothing around, just bright white, no start no end... endlessly zooming towards infinity... that one scared me a lot... but anyways, the more nightmares i had, the more i got to know my stand in spirituality, and from one moment to the other, i never had nightmares again, and at last, found my ability to lucidly percieve my dreams, and to conclude their messages.
Lately Im having REMs, rapid eye movement, which happen mostly a few minutes after i went to bed, yet not sleeping. So i percieve what i see with my conscious perception, which is interesting indeed. And also interesting what i get to see, seems like the grid of the universe, similiar to a tron level
...just more complex
But there are really endless ways to become more lucid, or to have an OOBE.
I have some good ebooks, how to interpret dreams, or how dreams "work" and so on.... Just U2U me when interested
Good to hear that you found your place in spirituality and progress from there, will be meeting us in dreamland sooner or later!
Good luck As a child i had very very many lucid nightmares, also because I had fever many times back then, which seems to increase dreamactivity.. I remember one very good, flying around in white space, and nothing around, just bright white, no start no end... endlessly zooming towards infinity... that one scared me a lot... but anyways, the more nightmares i had, the more i got to know my stand in spirituality, and from one moment to the other, i never had nightmares again, and at last, found my ability to lucidly percieve my dreams, and to conclude their messages.
Lately Im having REMs, rapid eye movement, which happen mostly a few minutes after i went to bed, yet not sleeping. So i percieve what i see with my conscious perception, which is interesting indeed. And also interesting what i get to see, seems like the grid of the universe, similiar to a tron level
...just more complex But there are really endless ways to become more lucid, or to have an OOBE.
I have some good ebooks, how to interpret dreams, or how dreams "work" and so on.... Just U2U me when interested
reply posted on 15-12-2008 @ 05:53 PM by moonbeam cat
reply to post by Shakesbeer
hi shakesbeer,
when i was younger i used to have the same nightmare over and over night after night no matter how i tried not to dream or go into dreamstate,when it was over i used to scream and would almost always wake up crying because for me being young it felt real,looking back now i can say it was a dream and not a OOBE because i always had one thought pattern,anyway heres the nightmare which i had about 10- 15 times,
it would be al black around me like i was outside but i couldnt see no stars,black floor,and the feeling of dread coming over me as i tried to get to this small tree stump sticking out of the ground,i was moving very heavy and felt very static and sometimes moved or jumped in blocks like a tv skipping a couple of seconds,within getting closer to the tree stump a massive loud noise would strike me and i would get hit by a lightning bolt waking me up,i didnt want to go back to sleep after that and would fall sometimes back into the same nightmare again,do not know what to make of it then or now.
i had a very personal OBE a few months ago with someone who has past ,and i couldnt believe how real it was everything is how it should of been even with newer family members who he hasnt seen,i had thought,rational thoughts,speech,just amazing but too short.
hi shakesbeer,
when i was younger i used to have the same nightmare over and over night after night no matter how i tried not to dream or go into dreamstate,when it was over i used to scream and would almost always wake up crying because for me being young it felt real,looking back now i can say it was a dream and not a OOBE because i always had one thought pattern,anyway heres the nightmare which i had about 10- 15 times,
it would be al black around me like i was outside but i couldnt see no stars,black floor,and the feeling of dread coming over me as i tried to get to this small tree stump sticking out of the ground,i was moving very heavy and felt very static and sometimes moved or jumped in blocks like a tv skipping a couple of seconds,within getting closer to the tree stump a massive loud noise would strike me and i would get hit by a lightning bolt waking me up,i didnt want to go back to sleep after that and would fall sometimes back into the same nightmare again,do not know what to make of it then or now.
i had a very personal OBE a few months ago with someone who has past ,and i couldnt believe how real it was everything is how it should of been even with newer family members who he hasnt seen,i had thought,rational thoughts,speech,just amazing but too short.
Especially since you said that thought pattern circling in your
head. You got yourself caught in a "fear loop" in a sense. reply posted on 16-12-2008 @ 04:47 AM by silo13
reply to post by Shakesbeer
Ok you asked for it.
These are just polar in their differences but are both examples of what I mean by *whoppers*.
Dream 1:
Driving in my Jeep down a road close to my home I hit a large white rabbit that leapt from the bushes directly onto the road in front of the pickup.
I stopped the Jeep and ran back to the rabbit.
It looks up at me and says “You’re so mean. You hit me and leave me so.”
I replied, “I have a knife and a gun in my Jeep, what would you rather I used”?
(It didn’t need to be said I’d put the rabbit out of it’s misery).
“Use the knife, I want your hands bloodied”.
I went back and got the knife, put the hare out of it’s misery, though I didn't’ see how I used the knife, I just knew it was now out of it’s misery.
Next day in my Jeep with my fiance I told him about the dream, how unsettling it was.
In fact, I was reminded of the dream as I was driving on the same road, but hadn’t reached the *dream area* yet.
As I finished my story we rounded a corner onto a flat area from my dream.
Exactly where I saw the rabbit in the dream, a large white rabbit jumped out of the bushes, but RAN BESIDE THE JEEP before running off into the bushes again.
I stopped the Jeep, my finance and I looked at each other - our mouths hanging open.
:O
Dream 2:
I this dream I heard music so beautiful it hurt.
I was crying in my dream with a joy increasing, joy so profound, crying in the splendor of it all, the love and acceptance and the feeling of *home*.
Then a deep confusion, (but a joy so indescribable it still hurts to think of) flooded through me.
I closed my eyes in the dream but could still see the *scene* before me: A blinding white light engulfing a silhouette of a man sitting Indian style at my feet, the blackness of a piece of plywood leaning to the side, the mans head bent as if in prayer just touching the silhouette of the wood.
A bone shattering explosion like a slamming door and the vision in the dream, was gone.
I felt completely and forever cut off from the joy, from the indescribably joy of that white love, the music, the man.
Just like a door closing - that’s what stuck with me for years - the door closing between me and heaven.
Years later my husband of 10 months took his life just outside our back door in a horse shed, his head leaning up against a piece of plywood.
I walked outside to find him - just to look down on his head as he pulled the trigger.
Time to post before I don’t.
That’s all I have to say about that.
*P*E*A*C*E*
Ok you asked for it.
These are just polar in their differences but are both examples of what I mean by *whoppers*.
Dream 1:
Driving in my Jeep down a road close to my home I hit a large white rabbit that leapt from the bushes directly onto the road in front of the pickup.
I stopped the Jeep and ran back to the rabbit.
It looks up at me and says “You’re so mean. You hit me and leave me so.”
I replied, “I have a knife and a gun in my Jeep, what would you rather I used”?
(It didn’t need to be said I’d put the rabbit out of it’s misery).
“Use the knife, I want your hands bloodied”.
I went back and got the knife, put the hare out of it’s misery, though I didn't’ see how I used the knife, I just knew it was now out of it’s misery.
Next day in my Jeep with my fiance I told him about the dream, how unsettling it was.
In fact, I was reminded of the dream as I was driving on the same road, but hadn’t reached the *dream area* yet.
As I finished my story we rounded a corner onto a flat area from my dream.
Exactly where I saw the rabbit in the dream, a large white rabbit jumped out of the bushes, but RAN BESIDE THE JEEP before running off into the bushes again.
I stopped the Jeep, my finance and I looked at each other - our mouths hanging open.
:O
Dream 2:
I this dream I heard music so beautiful it hurt.
I was crying in my dream with a joy increasing, joy so profound, crying in the splendor of it all, the love and acceptance and the feeling of *home*.
Then a deep confusion, (but a joy so indescribable it still hurts to think of) flooded through me.
I closed my eyes in the dream but could still see the *scene* before me: A blinding white light engulfing a silhouette of a man sitting Indian style at my feet, the blackness of a piece of plywood leaning to the side, the mans head bent as if in prayer just touching the silhouette of the wood.
A bone shattering explosion like a slamming door and the vision in the dream, was gone.
I felt completely and forever cut off from the joy, from the indescribably joy of that white love, the music, the man.
Just like a door closing - that’s what stuck with me for years - the door closing between me and heaven.
Years later my husband of 10 months took his life just outside our back door in a horse shed, his head leaning up against a piece of plywood.
I walked outside to find him - just to look down on his head as he pulled the trigger.
Time to post before I don’t.
That’s all I have to say about that.
*P*E*A*C*E*
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