Well, technically, all life doesn't descend from a common ancestor. There were probably lots and lots of single-celled early life forms which swapped genetic material between each other somewhat similar to how viruses work. So descent wasn't really occurring in any fashion in which we'd recognize. Eventually a clear division between Prokaryotes and Eukaryotes emerged. Eukaryotes then divided into Animals, Plants, Fungus, Protista (which itself is not longer used as classification because it's too diverse). The Prokaryotes divided into Bacteria and Archaea.

So any claims that we are descended from a single origin ancestor or that we are evolved from bacteria are false and ignorant.

aDrtyHippie, do you seriously not know how life reproduced before the advent of sexual reproduction?! Heh... well, how do you suspect that life RIGHT NOW reproduces without sexual reproduction!

Originally posted by Unsane
Why is evolution the counter to Jesus?

Well it's because people who cannot prove the existence of God need to take emotional comfort in 'knowing' (hoping) that evolution is false and therefore eases the pain of being wrong and delusional. It's a defense mechanism.

Of course, the problem arises when evidence comes into play and the creationists' anti-evolution arguments fall flat on their faces.

Wow, an actual answer to the OP and an honest one that not only makes sense but completely agrees with what I was trying to say in the other thread that made me open this one and how can I not love a post that makes me right. Althought it is said a little more succinctly and politely.

Originally posted by Unsane
@ LeoVirgo

I understand the point that as a believer you do not want to be stereotyped into the group which I created in my last post.

I want to clarify that I am only speaking in reference to the group of individuals mentioned by our OP who created this thread as a response to the hijacking of the previous one where creationists used the defensive statement 'Prove evolution' as a response to the question 'prove God exists'.

Whoa whoa whoa whoa. Are you actually reading and comprehending this thread? Did you actually pay attention to the many times I explained this thread? Did you actually stop just simply feeling and read and see what it meant for a moment? I think I am gonna tear up. I hope a mod applauds you for being so brave and so lonely.

[edit on 15-12-2008 by angel of lightangelo]

Originally posted by Lasheic
Upon a simple cursory examination, I see no reason why the concept of Jesus and Evolution should be diametrically opposed.

Funny, I did not think so either...

but here we are.

Originally posted by angel of lightangelo

Originally posted by Lasheic
Upon a simple cursory examination, I see no reason why the concept of Jesus and Evolution should be diametrically opposed.

Funny, I did not think so either...

but here we are.

Nor do I...

The opposition happens when you check the OT, not the New Testament.

But, Christians ignore most of the OT anyway... I mean who can blame them...

According to the OT, Dragons and unicorns exist... and God is powerless against iron...

Originally posted by nj2day
But, Christians ignore most of the OT anyway... I mean who can blame them...

According to the OT, Dragons and unicorns exist... and God is powerless against iron...

Well I sure managed to hit the jackpot when it comes to "Christians" that want to acknowledge part of the OT. I do not understand the picking and choosing at all. Either the bible is the word of God or not, right? I think it would be nice if I could find a Christian here that believes every word literally but is also not an ass about everything.

Originally posted by OldThinker
YEAH, think I'm engaged on this one...

I'm gonna do some study and let you and noob know where and when...

Hope to start a new thread later this month,

Sounds interesting to me too.

maybe in the closed forum with you and noob...do a little 'role-tending' together...

Oh, it's like that. OK, here I was reading your way off topic conversation, completely interested and it all comes to this. Well all I can really say now is...stop using my thread to gab about it then.



[edit on 15-12-2008 by angel of lightangelo]

Originally posted by angel of lightangelo
Well I sure managed to hit the jackpot when it comes to "Christians" that want to acknowledge part of the OT. I do not understand the picking and choosing at all. Either the bible is the word of God or not, right?

Oh it gets better than that... not only are some parts recognized... but then it goes deeper, in that some parts are supposed to be literal, and some are supposed to be figurative...

so far, the best I've seen as to how to differentiate the different areas... is that if Science can disprove it beyond a doubt... its supposed to be taken figuratively

If its a nasty little bit... its supposed to be figuratively...

If it can't be disproven, and fits the current moral zeitgeist... its literal

I think it would be nice if I could find a Christian here that believes every word literally but is also not an ass about everything.

But isn't that a prerequisite of being a "fundy"?