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Originally posted by nj2day
Originally posted by gYvMessanger
I am not a member of any faith but thanks for the assumption that I should leave my beliefs in church.
Tell me then why I shouldn't believe in an ultimate divine source, you obviously know why I'd like to know your point of view, calling it a fairy tale is just as useful as me telling you that god exists because the bible says so, which I wouldn't dream of doing.
Oh I didn't say you shouldn't believe... Its obviously working for you...
Your faith doesn't belong in government buildings, schools, legislation, public property, or any of the like...
Keep your morality to yourself and quit trying to force it on me... either subtly or overtly.
I call it a fairy tale because there is no more reason to believe in a god than there is to believe in unicorns or dragons...
Originally posted by LeoVirgo
reply to post by OldThinker
If I may...just some thoughts.
The commandments do provide a moral order of living....but should we give credence to the god of the Old Testament for these, I mean, it is obvious that other cultures did establish most of these same set of rules trying to organize some basic morals and values for man to follow, seeing it was necessary. But do we give the credit to the god of the OT?
This is where I struggle with it....I sit on the fence with 'god' and the Biblical versions of Thee's characteristics. Alot of human characteristics are placed on this god....
So I guess it is a question of if one see's the OT as a book directly written to interpret god to mankind. How is one for sure that these laws were not a more perfecting of previous laws that cultures were adapting to, trying to become a more civilized and structured culture?
Just thoughts always,
Originally posted by OldThinker
I guess I'm struggling with what particularly you are asking of me, would you be open to try again?