NEW Virus That Seals the Throat?, page 1

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Topic started on 13-12-2008 @ 04:34 PM by fizliz

This is very scary. So I'm not sure if any of my family members can actually get in trouble for this. But, my boyfriend and I were sitting around the dinner table, when my Dad says 'hey did you kids know that there is a new virus going around that closes up your throat?' and I looked up at my mom, and she said 'I thought we were not going to talk about that.' and my mom got extremely angry at my dad. Now, my mom happens to work at a clinic, So i wanted to further inquire into this so me, being the nosy teenager asked 'What it closes up your throat? I didnt hear about this.' And my mom basically told me to end the discussion; My dad then hinted that it is only clinic personel that know this and such; So I am wondering, has anyone heard of friends or anyone that has a virus like this? I am thinking the reason why (if this is true) that the media has not let the public know is
A. No vaccination yet.
B. The virus is under control in a specific region
C. There are far too small of cases to call it an outbreak.

Let me know your thoughts

reply posted on 13-12-2008 @ 04:41 PM by Jemison

What state do you live in? Also, is it just a normal clinic that your mother works in or do they do research and such? My brother is a Doctor (ortheopaedic surgeon) and his wife is a trauma nurse at a hospital in D.C. and they haven't mentioned anything about a new virus but I'll ask them when I speak with them this evening.

I just found out this morning that the husband of one of my good friends has been in the hospital for the last month with flesh eating bacteria! I was stunned - not just that he had it but that it wasn't all over the news! Apparently it's not as uncommon as one would think nor is it considered newsworthy so maybe the virus you mention isn't as newsworthy as you and I would hope that it would be?

Jemison

reply posted on 13-12-2008 @ 04:41 PM by BlackMumba

Sounds like something out of Stephen Kings "The Stand"

Seriously though, I haven't heard of anything like this. Won't your dad at least elaborate more on this? your mother sounds as if she isn't going to budge when it comes to discussing this.

Can you glean anymore information from your father?

reply posted on 13-12-2008 @ 04:43 PM by Now_Then

Plenty of things can close up your throat - but it's swelling, say your alergic to bee's and you swallow one - that happens.

In fact quite a few allergic reactions can close up your airways - and any number of other medical issues, I can't give detail cos I don't know exactly.

How are you meaning 'seal' the throat? Because you could also seal it by choking, which of course you can choke on bodily fluids.

reply posted on 13-12-2008 @ 04:44 PM by Resinveins

First I've heard of it. Hopefully, someone has some more info on the subject.

Coughing up a second line... just because

reply posted on 13-12-2008 @ 04:46 PM by interestedalways

Originally posted by Resinveins
First I've heard of it. Hopefully, someone has some more info on the subject.

Coughing up a second line... just because

Couldn't cough up an extra line if you caught a virus like that, now could you?

Scary prospect. I would want to avoid something like this at all costs, sounds like a death sentence.

Please do let us know if you find out more info.

reply posted on 13-12-2008 @ 04:47 PM by xoxo stacie

I havent heard of a virus of this nature and frankly many of similiar types of illness of this nature are either based on bactirial or fungal type infections taking over the soft tissue of the esophagus and bronchial tubes.
I myself had a toxic fungal infection in my lungs that went into my blood and by the time they got it under control I had permenant scaring on my bronchial tubes and lower third of left lung. It does at time cause my throat to cease movement making it seem as if it has closed. But in reality it has swollen and is unable to move and must be opened manually while they drug me silly with asthma meds and meth type drugs to speed things up in my blood stream making it easier to absorb oxygen.
I can see the fright this may bring to some, as it is a scary thing. But there are many many ways to keep the throat open including bypassing the throat all together and inserting a tube directly into the lungs. Either from just below the adams apple area to going into the lung from the top of the rib cage. You would most definately have to know what you where doing as making a hole to large would just allow to much air out but it is "very" possible to bypass the throat.
I think if you where going to look into this you should lean more to it being something of a bacterial or fungal nature as a viral strain might be the "starting point" but it would have to be one that can mutate into either a bacterial or fungal in nature infection to cause that kind of damage or shut down.

reply posted on 13-12-2008 @ 04:47 PM by fizliz

I live about 40 minutes-1hr outside the twin citys. No, no research is done at this clinic. Its part clinic part hospital actually. Well what my dad made it sound like was that it just swells right up so that you cant breathe. I tried but my mom was pretty P'O that my dad let that one fly. At first I thought they were kidding, but my mom usually is not this protective. Well probably because they have alot of codes at the clinic that you can't talk to others about patients problems.

reply posted on 13-12-2008 @ 05:04 PM by xoxo stacie

I just called my mom there is a virus that goes bacterial very fast and it can make the throat seem to close. They give the person a shot of indenaline (sp?) and kit start the heart to go faster to make it stop. She said even if the person passes out that they will keep breathing although slower they will get small amounts of air being relaxed and all.

reply posted on 13-12-2008 @ 05:22 PM by Bnmssnit

reply to post by fizliz

Please research colloidal silver.I make my own and have found it works for me.The hospitals are now coming out with studies about how bacteria can thrive on stainless steel operating room tables and equipment even after being thouroughly sanitized.They are now considering switching to copper and silver tables and equipment because of the antibacterial properties they contain.Seems staph and MRSA problems are worse than whats being reported.Occurences of these infections are growing each day.I have friends that work in nursing homes and they say the Health Dept has considered quarantining a lot of faciilties but they havent because they dont want to alarm the public!

reply posted on 13-12-2008 @ 05:59 PM by RuneSpider

en.wikipedia.org...

It's not new, but Tetanus is a disease caused by a bacterial infection that initially causes your jaw muscles to spasm out of control, eventually causing your mouth to lock shut.
I know different type of wounds can cause shock that can close the airways, especially a blow to the head.
Don't know of any that specifically target the muscles of the throat though.

reply posted on 13-12-2008 @ 06:07 PM by MischeviousElf

Your mum and dad probably did not want to worry you over a particularly nasty Bug/Virus as they understand about Suggestion, and the Placebo Effect on health and wellness.

Especially to young people and how this can spread quickly as a Meme.

Really if it was that bad it would be checked by these people very quickly:

Center for Disease Control CDC Emerging Infectious Diseases

And your mum wouldn't be allowed near you, the town would be quarantined.

Don't worry and I hope you dont catch a nasty winter bug but that is all it probably is,

However if your mum isn't allowed home from work tomorrow DO TELL US HERE my friend.

Kind Regards,

Elf

[edit on 13-12-2008 by MischeviousElf]

reply posted on 14-12-2008 @ 11:53 AM by fizliz

reply to post by MischeviousElf

Ha that could be true too. I just tried prying a little bit more into it and my mom just didnt say anything significant; She said it's private and that it's not for sure because only a few cases have cropped up here and there. And that was 'end of the discussion'. Whatever it is, if it is real, there better be people working endlessly on a vaccine of sorts.

reply posted on 14-12-2008 @ 02:42 PM by prevenge

Originally posted by fizliz
This is very scary.

My dad then hinted that it is only clinic personel that know this and such; So I am wondering, has anyone heard of friends or anyone that has a virus like this? I am thinking the reason why (if this is true) that the media has not let the public know is
A. No vaccination yet.
B. The virus is under control in a specific region
C. There are far too small of cases to call it an outbreak.

perfect "humanitarian killoff" methodology no?

I've experienced at least a "version" of it once.

my throat constricted for about 12 hrs.. I could barely breathe for about 3 hrs.

I didn't see a doctor.

My body kicked it's arse.

I survived.

This happened all of a sudden in the spring of this year.

good goin chemtrials!

give us U.S. folks some more of your heavy bio-sprays!

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reply posted on 14-12-2008 @ 02:44 PM by prevenge

Originally posted by fizliz
reply to post by MischeviousElf

Whatever it is, if it is real, there better be people working endlessly on a vaccine of sorts.

oo yeaaaah
because viruses just "haappen" heeheeheeee //insert ambivilant giggling bimbo sound here//

and we gotta combat it and develop vaccines to inject ourselves with riiight??? // insert southern accent "red-blooded" mind-washed amerikkan accent here

yeaaaahhh.. hee hee heee

viruses just appeaarrr maagically..... TEE-VEE says so hee heee daaarrr/// drooolll...

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[edit on 14-12-2008 by prevenge]

reply posted on 14-12-2008 @ 02:56 PM by MischeviousElf

reply to post by fizliz

I am sure it is ok.

The link I provided to the CDC, well in medical cases such as you describe their is a certain procedure that has to take place, a reporting procedure.

It then goes to the right people, from the local level and very very quickly sometimes within an hour or two to People like the CDC.

For example if an Known virus such as Ebola infected a family in the states, and the local doctor had concerns and sent of blood analysis, the CDC would probably get the results before the local Doctor would, as the Lab checking them has certain laid down protocols, and responses to certain Bacteriological and viral agents.

Now if this was an unknown Viral or bacteriological agent, but was causing Mortality/Death by closing up the airways, again the hospital, Pathologist, Doctors would have to put that in a report. Even if they didnt fill out or follow the correct form/procedure, then there is a back up.

All medical notes are then given to Clinical Coders who have to provide stats and reports on the demographics and assign a "Code" for the incident especially if its for a death. These codes are then used for stat analysis, like when you see reports of 50,000 people with flu this year in New York or whatever. If the coder can not find a code for an existing known disease they then have there own back up reporting system to such people as explained.

So if its not reported quickly, especially if someone dies it will happen soon anyway with the safeguards.

However new Viral and Bacteriological diseases do emerge, and current ones change, so I am not saying there is nothing to this, just trying to ease any worries you may have...

Please please Please do let us know if your mum is told to stay at work, or your local school is closed down for a period or anything such like.

If you dont want to put it here U2U me or one of the Mods and we will get another source close by to the event to take any heat of you

Let us know yes?

Keep us updated my friend but again don't worry too much unless anything changes.

Kind Regards,

Elf.

[edit on 14-12-2008 by MischeviousElf]

reply posted on 14-12-2008 @ 03:04 PM by prevenge

Originally posted by MischeviousElf
reply to post by fizliz

I am sure it is ok.

The link I provided to the CDC, well in medical cases such as you describe their is a certain procedure that has to take place, a reporting procedure.

It then goes to the right people, from the local level and very very quickly sometimes within an hour or two to People like the CDC.
Kind Regards,

Elf.

omgomgomg

Am I sooo glad to see you.

You are like the beacon in the stormy night, the last bastion of hope.

It was so cool when you and the CDC listened to the millions of Americans suffering from fibers crawling through their flesh and actually called an emergency plan into order to help them and remit them of the pain and suffering they are going through, instead of just brushing them off and convincing the dullard easily-conned masses into thinking that they were delusional wacko people..
So cool how you didn't do that, and helped them immediately with your medical knowledge... because you like to save lives... not make money..

That was so KEWLLL of you!!!
I actually made sure I had a TV crew on hand and gave you roses for that one!

The CDC is so trustworthy, they are my bestest friend. They have no revolving door policyies with the Executives of Bayer or Pfizer.
It is all okay and we are all healthy and well and parasite free thanks tew you and your freindly neighborhood help.
I want to thay-unk yew frum thee battum uv may hart.

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reply posted on 14-12-2008 @ 03:24 PM by MischeviousElf

Originally posted by prevenge

Originally posted by MischeviousElf
reply to post by fizliz

SNIP to Save Sever Space

It was so cool when you and the CDC listened to the millions of Americans suffering from fibers crawling through their flesh and actually called an emergency plan into order to help them and remit them of the pain and suffering they are going through, instead of just brushing them off and convincing the dullard easily-conned masses into thinking that they were delusional wacko people..
So cool how you didn't do that, and helped them immediately with your medical knowledge... because you like to save lives... not make money..

BACK ON TOPIC

As Morgellons it appears from the medical community who do research it, does not appear to be a VIRUS or BACTERIOLOGICAL agent.

I was replying in context to the age and concern of this OP please see my post Here and think on that, in relation to both your valid concerns which should be discussed HERE CDC to do 1 Yr Study on Morgellons
or the other threads on this issue on ATS to be found ATS Morgellons Threads Try Search.

To reply to the sarcastic and slandering nature of the rest of your post...

I have been in the past Paid to work in the health arena, but with clients in a broad range of fields. I have not been paid to do that for many years, and was just paid to Nurse or with Behaviour Modification for Clients.

I also have done over 13 yrs of voluntary work within the Community when younger, doing similar and also advanced First Aid, nearly to Paramedic level, also accreditated and legal training courses to teach classes from scratch to a work based certificate of competancy, again unpaid

I have saved several peoples lives and I thank you for your praise, when I did save those Lives I was not paid to do so

Please also look at my signature which has not changed for some time below, you will see in the Bees one a list of threads if you look at the "The Bee Smoking Gun" I also bring in actual research and evidence of the links between governments, the EPA and Drug companies and such like!

If you look at my second signature you will see it based on Morgellons!!!!

If you also look at my response to the Op I ask him to keep us informed, as it seems unlike the issue you seem fixated on their is no proof of what he is saying, it is merely conjecture, second hand word of mouth at the moment.

Good Night!

OP Please do as said take on board what I have said, the symptoms don't appear to be based on the issue the above poster mentions so please don't worry about that, look into it and research it yes, but I don't think from what I have seen, read and explored on that issue it is linked.

Again thanks for posting and keep us informed eh.

Elf.

[edit on 14-12-2008 by MischeviousElf]

reply posted on 16-12-2008 @ 03:19 PM by fizliz

Ha thank you! I'm not saying that 'yes i know of this and know it is a virus, and that it is spreading' I am just repeating what someone else said who is knowledgable in that area. My mom still has been going to work fine and all, I think in a couple weeks i will ask again to see if anything has changed. Winter is the prime time for something like this to crop up because then if it is serious, they (gov?) can attribute it to a cold, something common.

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