reply to post by Anti - Government
Everyone who smokes DOES know what they are doing to themselves, and it is still their choice to do so. Trust me, smokers know the "statistics" and
the "results" and the "health concerns" far better than most non-smokers do.
why? Because they're hit by them all the freakin time by people who feel they have a right to throw their opinions in their faces every time they
hear a lighter strike.
Want some interesting facts on bans and how they affect people?
In the town i live in, we have MANY bars. We're known as the city of bars and churches, for a reason lol. We have, literally, a bar on every
corner, and a church on the other side, on every street in our town.
5 years ago, the city imposed smoking ordinances. They changed the laws so that bars and restaurants which wished to cater to smokers still could,
provided they made an area seperate for smoking. The bars and restaurants here spent a VERY large amount of money to renovate their buildings to
provide seperate smoking and non-smoking areas for their customers.
Many had to take out loans to do so, and are still paying for them.
Last year, they once again changed the laws, this time banning smoking from public places altogether. And those bars and restaurants which renovated
to cater to the changes that had been made previously were now completely out their money. Thing is, two members of the city council came out with
the information that the council originally wanted it to be a total ban as it is now, but decided that the public would outcry too much about it, and
so the partial ban was put into place.
So these people knew 5 years in advance of their new law, that they would eventually put it into place, and did a partial ban in the meantime, which
cost their constituent businesses a large amount of funds.
5 miles away from our town is another town, not very large, but thriving. This town has quite the number of bars and restaurants as well, though of
course not as many as our town has. That town has no bans, whatsoever, and refuses to do so (good on them, its personal choice). Give you one guess
as to what has been happening here?
There have been a large number of restaurants and bars in our town which have had to close down because of lack of business, and the town over there?
You guessed it.. they're thriving. Why? Because people can drive a simple 5 miles away to be able to smoke where and when they wish. All the
smokers businesss has gone over there.
Here's my opinions, in relation to restaurants and bars. Restaurants, if they choose to ban smoking in their place, is understandable, and I have no
issue with either rests. or bars choosing on their own to have smoking or not in their business. IT IS THEIR CHOICE as a business. Many non-smokers
complained that the bars needed to be non-smoking because they did not "want to share the air" with smokers. And yet, isn't that a choice they
could make on their own? Why have a need for a banning on a governmental level?
There were rests. and bars here that had non-smoking, and yet people did not cater to them. That was their choice, but they could have gone there.
If you go to a bar, you are obviously over the age to choose to smoke or not. If you take your kids to a restaurant, you could argue they have no
choice but to breathe in the smoke, because they are forced into the situation.. BUT if you go to a bar, you obviously cant take the kids there, and
its totally YOUR CHOICE to go or not.
I have seen my town go downhill in a big way because of banning smoking, and I have seen the town 5 miles away THRIVE since the day the ban was put
into place. And it is beause of non-smokers feeling they had a "right" to force THEIR personal choices on everyone else that it is happening.
People need to see it for what it really is.
[edit on 13-12-2008 by Jomina]