posted on Dec, 16 2008 @ 04:51 PM
Reading this thread has been kind of like seeing a train wreck in progress. It keeps getting worse and you want to look away but you just
1) Tobacco is not the problem. As far back as the 60's people were pointing fingers at additives in cigarettes (specifically sugar, which is
questionable when eaten or drunk and probably isn't healthy burned and inhaled), and it's only gotten worse. There's a lovely little list around of
the 599 chemical additives used in commercial cigarettes. Some of them are FDA approved as food additives while others are known carcinogens,
but none of them have been effectively studied for the effects of burning and inhaling them. So the guy just trying to have a smoke isn't the primary
problem. HE didn't put all those chemicals in his cigarettes and probably would prefer it if most of them weren't there. Do you know all the
chemicals and toxins that are in those twinkies and oreos and lunchables when you give them to your kids?
2) Let's be honest. You think smoking is a nasty habit. You find it to be dirty, smelly, and disgusting, and those are your REAL reasons for wanting
it banned. You know about other nasty stuff people do behind closed doors, but you don't have to see it so you can ignore it. All this fuss about
"second hand smoke" being a health risk is a smokescreen (ha ha I punnied!!) for "I don't like your nasty smelly habit and I don't want you to be
able to do it anywhere where I can see or smell it."
Concerned about people who endanger your health? Really? Then have a look at drunk drivers, people who talk on their cell phones while driving,
people who don't wash their hands after toileting and then prepare food for the public, people who show up for work in the food industry when
they're SICK, and etc. etc. You will never see most of these people or know about them, but every day they endanger your health far more than the few
breaths of second hand smoke you get from walking by someone who' smoking a cigarette.
3) It is about personal freedom. Last month it was a ban on pit bulls. This month it's a ban on smoking. Next month it'll be a ban on guns. And you
will be cheering because you don't like pit bulls, smoking, or guns. But they will keep taking the freedoms away, one by one, until they hit some
that affect YOU - like banning private schools maybe, or banning dogs altogether, or another round of alcohol prohibition. By then it will be too late
for you; the people who still believe in freedom and respecting other peoples' rights and not trying to tell them how they should live are
already in prison, in hiding, dead, or too angry at you for all the times you let something be taken away from them to help you. As I've said before
in other threads, remember that every time you allow anyone to take a right or freedom away from someone else, you are implicitly giving up all
comparable freedoms yourself. For example, if you let your town ban pit bulls you should be prepared to give up all of your pets if someone decides
they don't like them. Allow women to be forced to have unwanted children ( i.e. ban abortion) and you allow DHS the right to take your children away
from you if they decide you aren't raising them right.
Freedom means allowing other people the freedom to do things you don't approve of so that they will allow you freedom to things they don't approve
of. Trust me, there's something you do or have that someone dislikes and disapproves of just as much as you dislike and disapprove of
Mutual respect IS the key. I enjoy smoking. Respect that it's something I enjoy and and work with me a little, and I'll do my best to respect your
desire for air that doesn't smell like smoke. But that "ban smoking because all smokers are inconsiderate jerks" attitude - well, that won't win
you any respect, points, favors, or consideration.