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reply posted on 15-12-2008 @ 05:16 AM by tmk81
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Have you ever thought to seek professional help and maybe talk these feelings/thoughts over with someone?
Yes and I have.
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reply posted on 15-12-2008 @ 05:37 AM by tmk81
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I am glad I took the time to read it all, but now what?
I don't know.
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reply posted on 15-12-2008 @ 07:30 AM by letthereaderunderstand
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Hey, I was wondering. Do they ever use a song over and over for hours and hours, days maybe.
I was going to ask you what makes you believe it is "Control of the mind" over "Spirit".
Are you able to descern outside auditory sensation from internal. I get both, but internal is always in my left ear. If I cup my hand just right over
my ear I can actually understand most of what is being said. It is literally like many voices. About the tactile sensation. Mine is my left shoulder
blade and underneath it. I feel them enter through there.
If I relax, it will actually align my back perfectly. Like a magnet at the top of my head.
I believe you are right on with the atmospheric control. I think of it like bumper cars. The car has the metal pole extending to the electrified
ceiling, in this case they use the Ionisphere as the charger and transmitter, all stolen from Teslas work. They are using true "wireless"
communication.
Peace
For anyone wondering what this Auditory sensation is like, if you have not experienced it is "Revolution #9" from the Beatles, only take the 10 min
track and make it non stop all day every day, but only you can hear it, then try telling someone...
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reply posted on 15-12-2008 @ 08:24 AM by tmk81
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Do they ever use a song over and over for hours and hours, days maybe.
Yes. There are times when the computer repeatedly plays songs in my head with volume fade ins and fade outs. Around the beginning of its overt
interaction its voices were intelligible and clear and I thought they were coming out of my car speakers from the FBI. It also played faint music
which I also thought was coming out of my car speakers.
I was going to ask you what makes you believe it is "Control of the mind" over "Spirit".
I don’t know if I believe in a spirit. I am starting to consider fate as real and the energy of our bodies flowing on a predetermined course and
not separate from anything else.
Are you able to descern outside auditory sensation from internal.
There was a time when I sensed the computer's voices as originating from inside my head which distressed me very much. After awhile the computer
brought them outside of my head. There are times when the computer provided auditory disturbances which I mistook as external sounds like a knocking
on a door, whispering and talking.
About the tactile sensation. Mine is my left shoulder blade and underneath it. I feel them enter through there.
I often have tactile sensations on my genitals, anus, fingers (generally my right index finger) and lips.
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reply posted on 15-12-2008 @ 08:46 AM by letthereaderunderstand
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Another thing I wanted to mention.
I believe that Hollywood actually shows us what they have. I believe they pump it into hollywood to take away it's credibilty.
I say this as it reminds me of Minority Report. In the movie it was humans "precogs" that could determine a future action, but a computer running
all scenerios makes much more sense in a real world scenerio.
Another one I find revealing is Superman. When he goes up to listen to the world for trouble, I believe he is in the Ionisphere which is static
electricity. That's why our atmosphere glows...it's electric.
It's the double slit experiment. During the day, one slit open, light reacts as a particle, but at night as a wave. So, the sun is divided at
sundown
A way to pre-police everyone.
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reply posted on 15-12-2008 @ 08:56 AM by letthereaderunderstand
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Originally posted by tmk81
reply to post by letthereaderunderstand
Do they ever use a song over and over for hours and hours, days maybe.
Yes. There are times when the computer repeatedly plays songs in my head with volume fade ins and fade outs. Around the beginning of its overt
interaction its voices were crystal clear and I thought they were coming out of my car speakers. It also played faint music which I also thought was
coming out of my car speakers.
I was going to ask you what makes you believe it is "Control of the mind" over "Spirit".
I don’t know if I believe in a spirit. I am starting to consider fate as real and the energy of our bodies flowing on a predetermined course and
not separate from anything else.
Are you able to descern outside auditory sensation from internal.
There was a time when I sensed the computer's voices as originating from inside my head which distressed me very much. After awhile the computer
brought them outside of my head. There are times when the computer provided auditory disturbances which I mistook as external sounds like a knocking
on a door, whispering and talking.
About the tactile sensation. Mine is my left shoulder blade and underneath it. I feel them enter through there.
I often have tactile sensations on my genitals, anus, fingers (generally my right index finger) and lips.
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I hear you, I have felt it all over my body, but it is attached behind my sholder. Like Shiva arms you know.
It borrows into me. Stings.
When the perriferals go off, and the blur right before the entrance. I'm never ready for it. It just borrows in if it has to, right through my pupil.
Animated Atom circles with little men inside...they enter my head like a house.
Night time is fun eh?
Peace
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reply posted on 15-12-2008 @ 02:42 PM by MemoryShock
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Originally posted by tmk81
10. triggers emotions and disturbances. The disturbances I have experienced include voices,
tactile pressures, piercing/fluttering in heart, poking in eye, itches, visual artifacts (such as dots, lines in motion, spinning motions and
motions into and out of eye), projected images (sometimes frenetic body language such as rapid hand signals or pronounced facial expressions), pattern
morphing, expansion/contraction of vision, foggy vision, jumbled text, fullness in ears, sound effects (such as buzzing, clicking, moaning, muffled
sounds, rumbling, garbling and bass drum hits).
My Emphasis.
Could you go into more detail regarding the 'dots' experience? I will convey my experience after yours as I do not want to dilute your expression
with mine.
Also, check out the third link in my signature...
I would like to question your experiences. You seem to have a very mechanical expression, as if from third party. Can you relate some personal
experiences?
Thanks for your time...
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reply posted on 15-12-2008 @ 03:38 PM by Anonymous ATS
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Some would call that "God"...You really have provided no proof of anything in the op.Just saying the military has an AI brain underground :QED
does not make it real in any world anybody else can touch.
One has to wonder "why? why the man hours and cubic dollars to control you? do you have access to something"they" need? Nobody does anything on
this scale for the fun of it.. ...what makes you worthy of some govt tech coming to work with his lunch bag, sitting in front of a console and saying
" its 10 minutes before break let's give john Doe a twitch in his right eye"
Please talk to a flesh and blood person about this you may gain some perspective..
and shame on you mods for encouraging this poor guy....
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reply posted on 15-12-2008 @ 04:21 PM by Coeus
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Original poster has too much faith in what "they" can do.
Technology described is quite simply not possible (atleast by humans).
Now you can go and say "but the U.S military .. because we dont know.. all these black projects..secret bases.. fox mulder".
Well you cannot prove your claims. (Not that proof matters much here..)
Btw. I remember recently DARPA has held these A.I challenges for universities where competitors had to make their cars run a city course without human
assistance. Cars ran very good, but guess what - that technology was pretty far (read 100 years-) from your claims. Just an example of what kind of
stuff the military are really researching compared to your post.
Oh well, you can always say these DARPA etc projects etc are just cover-ups. And the REAL technology is deep underground in a secret military base,
and is 1000x more powerfull! Well they may have some neat technology, but I'm afraid truth is not as "cool" as you think.
But ofcourse you are free to believe, and good luck with your research!
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reply posted on 15-12-2008 @ 04:54 PM by tmk81
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Could you go into more detail regarding the 'dots' experience?
They use dots as a way of interacting with my thoughts. For instance if I pose a yes or no question such as "Do I agree with this?" they often
flash a dot in my peripheral vision. Depending on if it’s on my left or right side, my physiological response indicates a yes or no answer. The
dots can be different colors such as white in blue or red and will flare then quickly disappear. They appear to be about two meters distant, roughly
eye-level and about 1mm in diameter.
Can you relate some personal experiences?
I have had several psychotic breakdowns originating from these interactions in addition to the daily interaction which is often deeply disturbing.
My first breakdown was in Manila, Philippines in 2006. Having been sober since my first year in college I decided to drink while visiting the
Philippines at which time I attempted to get some marijuana. I was told by someone I had just met that they could get it for me so I went with them.
They left and when they returned all they had was methamphetamine. Being inebriated and never having done it before, I decided to try it. It goes
deeper but I don’t feel comfortable sharing here. Interestingly, a few years before this I had a dream where I tried methamphetamine (which seemed
strange since I had an unclear idea of what it was then); this was also one of the few dreams which I have recorded. After trying the
methamphetamine, I didn't want to do it again but ended up in another situation in the Philippines which convinced me otherwise. This time I went
through the rabbit hole. It escalated to the point where I thought everyone in the southern Philippines was part of a drug cartel trying to murder
me. I ended up at the US embassy at night thinking I had been poisoned and that I was dying--extreme psychosis. After a half-hour wait, a person
from the embassy arrived and escorted me through the embassy gates where he was able to calm me down by calling my parents. It was during this time
that fate seemed to kick in. I started to get clear FBI and CIA voices. It was an intense and defining experience. Since then the computer has
interacted in many ways of which I am trying to make sense of. I stopped using methamphetamine for a time and have been to drug rehab so have been
able to confirm that this psychotic break was not solely the consequence of drug use—I consider the methamphetamine as their
plausible deniability for the short-term.
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reply posted on 15-12-2008 @ 05:04 PM by MemoryShock
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Thank you for a serious response.
My "dot" experience occurred when I was young and would occur in the moments (which sometimes seemed to last forever) before sleep in the dark of
night. I would close my eyes and then red and blue dots would 'side scroll' from either direction (left to right or vice versa though the direction
was usely the same for any given experience) as if projected on the back of my eyelids. To gain a valid interpretation of what it looked like,
imagine a TV screen filled with tiny red and blue dots that continually scrolled in one direction.
This type of experience ceased for me after about third grade, give or take as I don't recall exactly when it stopped. The only other recollection I
have regarding this is the fact that I didn't like it and would have a feeling of relevant anxiety (no panic attacks that I recall) in my attempts to
'wish it away' or 'make it stop'.
Strange and something I haven't thought about in years. Thanks for the inadvertant reminder...
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reply posted on 15-12-2008 @ 05:08 PM by tmk81
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You really have provided no proof of anything in the op.
How would I prove this. I specifically said this is based on my experience--it
is not based on yours.
Just saying the military has an AI brain underground :QED
QED = quantum electrodynamics and see above.
One has to wonder "why? why the man hours and cubic dollars to control you?
I have addressed that in this thread.
and shame on you mods for encouraging this poor guy....
Your ignorance is far poorer.
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reply posted on 15-12-2008 @ 05:24 PM by interestedalways
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Just sayin..........
Meth will really mess with your head. I have known more than one person who got really spun out on that drug.
I am not saying that your experience isn't real or that what might be happening with you is because of the drug.
What I am saying is that it is very important to stay away from that drug because it makes it very hard to discern what is real and what is
magnified.
When it comes to paranoia meth is a HUGE magnifier indeed.
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reply posted on 15-12-2008 @ 05:25 PM by tmk81
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reply to post by Coeus
Technology described is quite simply not possible (atleast by humans).
That seems based more on faith than my experience.
Well you cannot prove your claims. (Not that proof matters much here..)
Neither can you.
Btw. I remember recently DARPA has held these A.I challenges for universities where competitors had to make their cars run a city course
without human assistance.
The Pentagon does not give accurate information on their technological or social programs. They are trained in deception. DARPA is for the
public.
Well they may have some neat technology, but I'm afraid truth is not as "cool" as you think.
Try as "cool" as you think.
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reply posted on 15-12-2008 @ 05:27 PM by Yoda411
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Are you able to tell us, or hint off as to what division of intelligence you work for or obtained this intelligence from?
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reply posted on 15-12-2008 @ 05:31 PM by letthereaderunderstand
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I have actually recorded the dots before with video. I will have to look for that. It is exactly as you describe.
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reply posted on 15-12-2008 @ 05:56 PM by MemoryShock
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reply posted on 15-12-2008 @ 06:10 PM by tmk81
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Are you able to tell us, or hint off as to what division of intelligence you work for or obtained this intelligence from?
I learned this from my direct experience and research. I am not affiliated with any government agency. It is my speculation that many in the high
command are aware that this program exists, among them the Joint Chiefs of Staff,
John Negroponte, Michael Hayden and
Robert Gates.
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reply posted on 15-12-2008 @ 06:24 PM by Japanese Gecko
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some people say that the militay is about 30 years in advance (from the tech point of view) in comparation with our public science. Howeverm the
public scinece hopes to reach a moment called "singularity" within 30 years. So, according to this logic we can expect that the military could have
at least one computer as intelligent as a smart human .
However, we have to bear in mind that an AI will not sleep, not get tired and will continuously focus on self developement . They can self improve at
a rate we are not even able to understand. In this case... we will actually dig our own grave as human species .
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