Originally posted by infinityoreilly
Now the next question would be why would there be lying?

Plenty of arguements could be made as to why they are lying, but it does not change that someone was.
Don't you think he would have said pull "back" or evacuate, rather than pull "it"? If the fire chief called Silverstein to tell him that they were going to pull firefighters out of the building or area, and the fire chief said we're going to "pull it" don't you think Mr. Silverstein would have said something like "It? What do you mean It? You're going to demolish my building"?
He just psychically knew that "it" meant the firefighters, or they have a telepathic idiot link?
And once again, according to FEMA, NIST, and Frank Fellini, there weren’t any firefighters in the building.

A thought for the day:

If you are going to tell people the truth, you had better make them laugh or they will kill you." --Oscar Wilde.

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I think that the problem is that people take it too far.

Just because #7 was demolished doesn't mean ALL the buildings were.

Building 7 had quite a few very important tenants. The sort of tenants that keep track of other very important people.

They also happen to be in a place very close to some of the most powerful leaders in the world regularly. And some of the most powerful business people.

And it had gold, n'est pas?

So, if you are there and you know that you have tenants with BIG important secrets that they cannot let people get ahold of, and you have a lot of stored money, and you are not sure if there is a second wave of terrorists (land-sea-air) coming, and you cannot secure the area.......

You'd have plans in place to bury what was important until you could get back at it.

It doesn't really seem all that difficult to me.

[edit on 2008/12/13 by Aeons]

posted by Aeons
Just because #7 was demolished doesn't mean ALL the buildings were.

Building 7 had quite a few very important tenants. The sort of tenants that keep track of other very important people.

They also happen to be in a place very close to some of the most powerful leaders in the world regularly. And some of the most powerful business people.

And it had gold, n'est pas?

So, if you are there and you know that you have tenants with BIG important secrets that they cannot let people get ahold of, and you have a lot of stored money, and you are not sure if there is a second wave of terrorists (land-sea-air) coming, and you cannot secure the area.......

So how did your imaginary scam artists know there was going to be an attack on the World Trade Center? You do realize that WTC 7 had to be rigged with demolition explosives ahead of time don't you?




[edit on 12/14/08 by SPreston]

I don't buy the idea that a multi-billionare who is the real estate business has any knowledge of demoition terminology. He probaby has very little to do with the day to day operations of his business. He probably cannot even boil water without help.

I doubt he has personally meet and had meetings with demolition companies where he could even have picked up on this term.
He was being filmed for a international tv program, if your not a pro your going to get nervous. At most he probably just said pull it when he meant pull them.

Maybe he mispoke or maybe he thought it sounded "cool".

If 911 was really this grand conspiracy involving multiple countries, thousands of people and numerous government agencies would they have even let this clip air? I'm sure if Silverstein was even slightly concerned he could have simply asked the film crew to reshoot this part of the interview.

Originally posted by Griff

Originally posted by thedman
Spent most of that afternoon
listening to radio transmissions from the scene at my firehouse

So you must have heard all those transmissions of explosions and secondry devices then?

"There's a bomb in the building, move out" comes to mind. Don't deny it because it's caught on video.

But I'm sure "fog of war" will be the excuse. But yet, you'll believe everything else when it comes to other things you want to believe in. Right?

The " fog of war" is a REAL condition. In times of stress and fear people do exaggerate, they do make mistakes, they do get confused. People were In shock and rumors always spread quickly.

How did anyone know there was a bomb? Did they see it? Did they see explosions or just hear them. Or did some hysterical person just say something about a bomb, which got back to the FDNY?

Originally posted by drock905
I doubt he has personally meet and had meetings with demolition companies where he could even have picked up on this term.

But he has had meetings with firefighters where he could have picked up on their terms?

I don't buy the idea that a multi-billionare who is the real estate business has any knowledge of demoition terminology. He probaby has very little to do with the day to day operations of his business. He probably cannot even boil water without help.

So if this part of your arguement is correct, how could he still have been involved enough in his business to have had meetings with firefighters where he could have picked up on their terms?
How would he know what "pull it" meant?
Wouldn't you expect him to have said something like "It? What do you mean It? You're going to demolish my building"?

I have never placed much importance in terms of evidence on Lucky Larry's "pull it" remark because it is so easily refuted with the "I mispoke." defense.

However I will say that from the very first time I saw this video to the present I feel he was saying demolish the building. Sure this is my opinion but I am just being honest.

Did you hear after receiving his first insurance settlement for the WTC complex Lucky Larry also filed suit against the airlines for negligence. This could backfire on LL because you know how stingy those insurance companies can get.

There is something terribly wrong with this picture. he can receive billions of dollars in an insurance settlement and then sue the airlines but the victim families have no recourse if they accepted the measly compensation (aka bribe) from the government?

The airlines tried to get the CIA and FBI officials to testify in the families' wrongful death suits. The government claimed that allowing their testimony would jeopardize national security. It appears Lucky Larry has a pretty good case considering the airlines have already settled most of the families' cases. Let's see if he can bankrupt a couple of airlines and throw thousands of people out of work on top of everything else. A real patriot and sooooooooooooo Lucky!

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[edit on 14-12-2008 by Leo Strauss]

Originally posted by KIRKSTERUK
You're really not very good at listening.

Pull refers to the pulling of a building using cables. Which would not be possible for a building as large as WTC7.

"Pull" does not refer to demolition via explosives.

If you had read more than the original post you would have seen that the point has been made to disprove your theory.

Just two examples you would have picked up on had you read the thread.
"The term "pull" while it originated in "pulling down" a building with cables, has been used for so long, and become so common that "pull" is now synonymous with demolish."

"Don't you think he would have said pull "back" or evacuate, rather than pull "it"? If the fire chief called Silverstein to tell him that they were going to pull firefighters out of the building or area, and the fire chief said we're going to "pull it" don't you think Mr. Silverstein would have said something like "It? What do you mean It? You're going to demolish my building"?
He just psychically knew that "it" meant the firefighters, or they have a telepathic idiot link?
And once again, according to FEMA, NIST, and Frank Fellini, there weren’t any firefighters in the building."

I guess "You're really not very good at" reading.


[edit on 14-12-2008 by ashamedamerican]

"Pull it" can mean "demolish", but let's step back and look at the first word. "Pull"---------it can mean "remove" as in "Pull our troops from Iraq". So "Pull it"------- "It" could mean the rescue team/operation(firefighters, policemen,etc)??? Now, don't get me wrong, I do believe there is more going on than we will ever be told, but I still believe he meant it that way.



edit: I should have read the last few posts before replying as I see someone is already seeing it the same as I do

[edit on 14-12-2008 by j1969p]

Originally posted by drock905
The " fog of war" is a REAL condition. In times of stress and fear people do exaggerate, they do make mistakes, they do get confused. People were In shock and rumors always spread quickly.

Does this also include fires and how much a building is "fully engulfed"?

How did anyone know there was a bomb? Did they see it? Did they see explosions or just hear them. Or did some hysterical person just say something about a bomb, which got back to the FDNY?

Obviously we don't know as it was either never investigated or written about. At least as far as I know.

Originally posted by KIRKSTERUK
You're really not very good at listening.

Pull refers to the pulling of a building using cables. Which would not be possible for a building as large as WTC7.

"Pull" does not refer to demolition via explosives.

I would bet it also means "pull" the switch.