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reply posted on 12-12-2008 @ 02:13 PM by zysin5
Originally posted by Unknownsoul
alchohol can have an amazing effect on an "alien" mind , like disreagauardung rules to protect someone that you fell inlove with forget what i have felt in human mt human life ive been awkend but why? probaly cause of "2012" which we could have lost count millions of years ago haha//.


Well it seems nice of you to want to help.. But I can counter and say with everything this mind has seen and done.. Ive hit the final parameter a human mind can hit without meeting death and staying in death.

The logical parameters of our minds will not allow us these answers.
The short cuts with Mushrooms, DMT, or other substances will only open you up to other being who will fill you full of either lies, or tales of what and who they are.

Its a short cut, that can lead you to death, if you take to much! Yes I have OD'ed. and died from this stuff.. Ive seen to much and I cant remember it fully.. But its something not meant for us now.

The only way to reach beyond the logical parameters of this question is Death..
Death is the only outreaching that a soul can break out of this logical loop.

If we are living within something alive and part of a cell.
Then that being is part of the same deal. It goes up and it goes down.

For each living being.. All living beings, plants, animals, everything has a multi universe in each one! Trillions upon trillions of universes, and within each, each and every living point has another trillion upon trillions of multi universes..
The human roadblock, parameters.. You can go no further until you expand upon your energy with the encounter with death.. And Even then you will not fully understand..
It takes trillions of lifetimes to evolve and understand this system.
We are lucky to understand so little..
Lucky I tell you.. This knowledge is a great burden, and have driven men mad!!

Edit-- But only in a dream state like you said can we shed our logical parameters. Dreams happen in a different section of our minds, where logical parameters hold no bars over us.. The dreams you dont remember are the ones that hold the most truth.. funny how that works huh? AS the logical section of your mind will not allow you to remember nor think, becasue its how we are made, controled, and processed.
We are processing all right not.. Each one of us connected on a very deep level.
When someone reads my posts, I can feel it.. I know when someone is reading my writting on ATS... And all to often I have to tone it out of my mind becasue I have many more posts than the last few years.

The dream state is truely still misunderstood. And is directly governened by your logical parameters set to keep you what we state as "normal"
Without this fail safe, we would all not want to be here.
We would mostly die, and kill ourselfs, as you would understand something that is outside of this exp. But the logical parameters keep you here as you need to be here to process..

Your told killing yourself is a bad thing.. Is it really? Or is it what you where told to belive.. Well Im still here, so its a very powerful suggestion.
I guess I will just wait my time out.. My logical center wont allow me to end it here just becasue of what I know..

[edit on 12-12-2008 by zysin5]


reply posted on 12-12-2008 @ 02:26 PM by theresult
reply to post by prototism



Well not it dont.. i just proved "in my way" how we got here or atleast a resonble reason how we came to be.. same as any other theory..

Im not asking why we are here im trying to UNDERSTAND IT thats different than trying to find the answer to life as shuch..

its been a very long road for me to ask the question from maths to philosphy to just reading posts on ats about 101 things and wondering why we ask what we do.. tho i didnt find out why we do ask it i came acorss something more important.. how the equations works or the center of it ..

I don not wish to understand the part befor it only the part that im in and for me that ment working out were maths came from and its meaning to me you and eveyone. The journey for me has came about via maths and trying to understand odd numbers or why the are here "i thus found out its becouse i am here" now with that said then i asked well ok how does one get a loop.. so i thought more about this and then came to the point were numbers did not matter as it was loop "self replecating" then i was totaly stuck with it thinking well i dunno how far back i can put my head into this without going nutty .. or giving up then it hit me, its so simplistic its in my face we was born "ie the universe" not me im just a product of it but the universe was born not BIG BANGED out from nothing and i use the embryo as my theory becouse life yes LIFE you know me and you is that of this wat i show "see my picture".. Life itself IS self replecating so why is not the universe??

maths made me understand who i am and it also made me think about what came befor it.. and that is what i theoriese The egg..

Now my goal is to understand NOT the meaning of life as such but to understand the DNA of our cell As i know that we are infact inside one.. how do i work that out i dont know but i plan on trying and it may take me another 20 years to find that out or never who knows but i will


reply posted on 12-12-2008 @ 02:30 PM by theresult
reply to post by zysin5



Im happy to see you understand what im saying

Like i said befor im not tying to tell anyone they are right or wrong but being outside the box via death or any other way is just another way of connecting with the upper level?

I know its hard but please just read what im trying to say. even if i am wrong atleast its made others think and even me when i read other comments.. we are all in the same boat im just giving my take on things




reply posted on 12-12-2008 @ 02:32 PM by Unknownsoul
Originally posted by zysin5
Originally posted by Unknownsoul
alchohol can have an amazing effect on an "alien" mind , like disreagauardung rules to protect someone that you fell inlove with forget what i have felt in human mt human life ive been awkend but why? probaly cause of "2012" which we could have lost count millions of years ago haha//.


Well it seems nice of you to want to help.. But I can counter and say with everything this mind has seen and done.. Ive hit the final parameter a human mind can hit without meeting death and staying in death.

The logical parameters of our minds will not allow us these answers.
The short cuts with Mushrooms, DMT, or other substances will only open you up to other being who will fill you full of either lies, or tales of what and who they are.

Its a short cut, that can lead you to death, if you take to much! Yes I have OD'ed. and died from this stuff.. Ive seen to much and I cant remember it fully.. But its something not meant for us now.

The only way to reach beyond the logical parameters of this question is Death..
Death is the only outreaching that a soul can break out of this logical loop.

If we are living within something alive and part of a cell.
Then that being is part of the same deal. It goes up and it goes down.

For each living being.. All living beings, plants, animals, everything has a multi universe in each one! Trillions upon trillions of universes, and within each, each and every living point has another trillion upon trillions of multi universes..
The human roadblock, parameters.. You can go no further until you expand upon your energy with the encounter with death.. And Even then you will not fully understand..
It takes trillions of lifetimes to evolve and understand this system.
We are lucky to understand so little..
Lucky I tell you.. This knowledge is a great burden, and have driven men mad!!

Edit-- But only in a dream state like you said can we shed our logical parameters. Dreams happen in a different section of our minds, where logical parameters hold no bars over us.. The dreams you dont remember are the ones that hold the most truth.. funny how that works huh? AS the logical section of your mind will not allow you to remember nor think, becasue its how we are made, controled, and processed.
We are processing all right not.. Each one of us connected on a very deep level.
When someone reads my posts, I can feel it.. I know when someone is reading my writting on ATS... And all to often I have to tone it out of my mind becasue I have many more posts than the last few years.

The dream state is truely still misunderstood. And is directly governened by your logical parameters set to keep you what we state as "normal"
Without this fail safe, we would all not want to be here.
We would mostly die, and kill ourselfs, as you would understand something that is outside of this exp. But the logical parameters keep you here as you need to be here to process..

Your told killing yourself is a bad thing.. Is it really? Or is it what you where told to belive.. Well Im still here, so its a very powerful suggestion.
I guess I will just wait my time out.. My logical center wont allow me to end it here just becasue of what I know..

[edit on 12-12-2008 by zysin5]


I beleive yo9ur mind is already evoolved because of your understaing of what im saying i felt a belive of intrust towards veiwers of this topic but know i seee that you have possiblity (understanging?) estamist of this universe. i belive you may be the one i was mto contact but OP i give you the chance as i do to every phsyical contact.

ask anythin about anything

i dont feel fear to big brother right now bring on the questions that are deepest withnin you. how will you stop me? trap me in a box foreer my spirit will adapt destorying it there is always the paraell to it that will suceed .make your desicion accept it


reply posted on 12-12-2008 @ 02:40 PM by theresult
reply to post by Unknownsoul



you seem like a realy person! this is not some quest to undertand the meaning of life sir...

This is a quest to understand what it is i am in.. i thought of being in something that is alive correct? and it may be a theroy that someone has thought of befor me and my be a never ending loop but that is not the question i am asking nor wish to seek

I know the questions i ask and i post it on here becouse its something i feel that is or needs to be said by ME not you or anyone els..

wha is my total goal? to understand ME better not you or anyone just ME and if that helps someone understand them than that is fine..

Tho if u are interested in what im thinking next.. then i shall tell you

I want to understand the code befor us thats right i want to understand the unlogic that makes us human

tho im guessing like i didn befor that its down to use being a outcome of some eqaution ..; i just want the mathamaticial formula for it not infinity nore the meaning of life becouse WE are not the meaning of life but i DO want to know the meaning of US.. dont u get it? to understand the question is to know the answer.. AND I WANT TO UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION or atleast find out what its made of AND it may be in maths but maybe its to complex for maths or that we are not able to pen it down to just maths but i shall go on trying regardless


reply posted on 12-12-2008 @ 02:46 PM by theresult
Originally posted by blowfishdl
I often talk about this among my friends while we smoke joints because it freaks them out.

It is my believe that not only is space endless, but life is endless.

We look in a microscope and see little balls of "cells" with tinier "organs" within them. It is certainly possible that space as we know it is one big cell. Or even stranger, we could be part of a multi-cellular organism in which "space" as we know it is one cell. Then there is an even larger organism looking in a microscope in a classroom somewhere looking at our "space" and discussing how our "space" survives as a single-celled organism.


thats what am saying but thats not the question i asked!! This was not what i was trying to find out "what we in" but how do i fit with odd numbers and how do humans understand the odd numbers or elogic "stuff that shouldnt happen but does" now going thru all my research I did come to this point "the cell" but thats not what im after... im tryin to find out the equation so to speak of the humans ie me you ect and why we dont understand what we are in.. its got jack to do with what we live in becouse thats been worked out its got to do with DNA of the thing we live in and how its been programmed.. u know we are here as a result of a mathmatical equation but yet we can not caluclate it even tho we use maths as the basis of everything???

Dont you see the flaw here??? We use maths but yet we dont understand it?? or what we are applying it TO "The universe" how can one make mathamatical equations if one does not fully understand what one is caluclauting.. hence the crazy stuff we dont understand

I say change the maths and we will understand that what we dont



reply posted on 12-12-2008 @ 02:47 PM by zysin5
Originally posted by theresult
reply to
post by Unknownsoul



This is a quest to understand what it is i am in.. i thought of being in something that is alive correct? and it may be a theroy that someone has thought of befor me and my be a never ending loop but that is not the question i am asking nor wish to seek


Welcome to the club!!! Man has been seeking this answer since the days we learned how to pick up a rock and bash them together to make tools!

Now today we are taking atoms, and guess what we are doing with them.

Thats right, we are bashing them together to make newer tools!

Things repeat.. So prehaps what you are looking for is out of our reach right now..

As with math, I sent you a private U2.. But it explains about the math you speak of..

The number 9 is the highest number before we repeat to 1 and 0
Sure 10 is in essence higher than 9.. But the charater note of 9 is the base highest we get before we repeat..

How much do we repeat? All to often.. I am repeating myself here..
Its very confusing and everyone one of us is looking for our own answers!

I wish you luck.. And do not fall into drugs for short cuts..
Sure its great fun and stuff.. But only leads you down a path where other numbers can confuse you even worse..
It opens you up, only to close you down from other things..

User beware.. Ive done this and that, in which I can not speak about here freely.. Just know I know that its a short cut.. And 9 is the highest number before we repeat.. Like with all things, repeat..

Your theory repeats..

What are you within? You are within a repeating system.. That goes on and on.. UP and down.. In and out.. And also goes in a direction I can not point to.. many other dimensions! such as a 2d object only knows left right back and forth.. It doesnt know what up is..
We are 3d beings, we can not point to the direction of duration.. Time in essence is the point in which we can not point to.. Yet we know its there.


reply posted on 12-12-2008 @ 02:50 PM by Unknownsoul
Originally posted by zysin5
Originally posted by theresult
reply to
post by Unknownsoul



This is a quest to understand what it is i am in.. i thought of being in something that is alive correct? and it may be a theroy that someone has thought of befor me and my be a never ending loop but that is not the question i am asking nor wish to seek


Welcome to the club!!! Man has been seeking this answer since the days we learned how to pick up a rock and bash them together to make tools!

Now today we are taking atoms, and guess what we are doing with them.

Thats right, we are bashing them together to make newer tools!

Things repeat.. So prehaps what you are looking for is out of our reach right now..

As with math, I sent you a private U2.. But it explains about the math you speak of..

The number 9 is the highest number before we repeat to 1 and 0
Sure 10 is in essence higher than 9.. But the charater note of 9 is the base highest we get before we repeat..

How much do we repeat? All to often.. I am repeating myself here..
Its very confusing and everyone one of us is looking for our own answers!

I wish you luck.. And do not fall into drugs for short cuts..
Sure its great fun and stuff.. But only leads you down a path where other numbers can confuse you even worse..
It opens you up, only to close you down from other things..

User beware.. Ive done this and that, in which I can not speak about here freely.. Just know I know that its a short cut.. And 9 is the highest number before we repeat.. Like with all things, repeat..

Your theory repeats..

What are you within? You are within a repeating system.. That goes on and on.. UP and down.. In and out.. And also goes in a direction I can not point to.. many other dimensions! such as a 2d object only knows left right back and forth.. It doesnt know what up is..
We are 3d beings, we can not point to the direction of duration.. Time in essence is the point in which we can not point to.. Yet we know its there.


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