Fed Refuses To Disclose Recipients of $2 Trillion in Lending

reply to post by Muundoggie

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Where did you get this manifesto from? Just curious as I have never seen or heard of this.

Sorry Sir, You are incorrect, this has been ongoing LOOOONG before George Bush.

What I find interesting is there is a distinct lack of voice concerning defending the U.S. Gov and Fed System.

Ladies and Gentlemen, I hope we have reached the 100th monkey effect.

The government is beginning to collapse on the sheer weight of itself. Like a fat bloated man who never exersized his legs and is now trying to stand.

Now here is what you do about it. Localize.

Begin to act as if your not going to have these 'benefits' anymore. Get to know what your neighbors name is. Stop caring if you look as prosperous as the family across the street.

Frugal is the new attitude. Neighborlyness will help see us through. You can either stop paying attention to government, take them to court (with all your neighbors, if you like) to get them to stop garnishing your wages (soc. and taxes).

GET INFORMED. There are plently of movement out there that are active. The only reason you don't know about them is because they are not covered.

Here is my point. Relize that you are the change. YOU are the difference. Enough people deciding to ignore the stupid points of law, and begin living common law and constitutional precepts, then it just... changes. I wouldn't worry about the consequences anymore. It's coming already.

Be the change, you can do it.

I don't know if this has been said here yet or not, but...

Remember the meeting Bush had a few weeks ago with the leaders of 20 nations to "discuss the economy"?

That's where our money went.

Bush Calls 20 Nations to Summit on Markets

If the American people knew that we were bailing out Europe, all hell would break loose.

That's my theory.

[edit on 14-12-2008 by jsobecky]

reply to post by jsobecky

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You are right Js, and remember that we here in ATS were talking about the same issues in the many threads that were open during and after the bail out.

America tax payer cover up for the pockets of the global banks and elite that due to their corruption help to the downfall of our economy.

Meanwhile when the America Joe tax payer gets hit for tax fraud the law will be in its arse.

But when the wealthy bankers and investment firms screw their low end investors they only get to scam Americas tax payer with a bail out.

My suspicion is that the Chinese and Saudi Arabia, one or both, called in their markers. In other words they will no longer prop up our worthless currency unless a payment is made on all the bad paper they are holding.

That would be more than a bit embarrasing to the US and would probably cause massive protests if the American public ever found out. Taxpayer money to China and Saudi Arabia!

Besides that the Fed probably is of the opinion "We print it and we can do any GDmd thing we want so just STFU!

Was Nov 10th the day that we found out $2T was GIVEN away or was that when it actually happened?

Didnt Bush and Obama have a private talk at the white house on Nov 10th?

Yeah its far fetched but hey its a conspiracy site.

I'll do some digging but its seems that there were some major changes in Obama's agenda shortly thereafter. If I remember right I think they went as far as to pull one of his major campaign talking points off of their web site.

Happy hunting

reply to post by DimensionalDetective

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What you say is true and thats what I fear..

Utopia vs this insanity.. Why would a greedyman WANT you to be free ??

why would anyone with power want anyone to have the same as him?

Why is there rich people and poor people??? The question speaks for itself and gives you the answer

We are our own problem and the more they push us the more we will devid and push back

Much the same as learning the world was flat in due time sir and trust me it will be to late for us all

The s w h t f .. Armagedon is already here you are livingin it

who said it had to be fast and BOOM god comes from the sky and rapture is upon us

I feel armagedon is happening all around me.. the missguided souls who will give there freedoms and sefl to another human becouse they are to lazy to think for themselfs..

The NUTS are the ones with a grasp on it.. yes we may be in the few but atleast we understand what we are up against in that respect and reading comments such as yours still gives me hope of a race that will embrace the real chaos and not shy away from it.

Life is a gift not from god "becouse i cant prove that" but from nature / universe..

We have total lost that link for so many TV and other "distractions" make people clueless...of what is going on here

Just wanted to more or less add to your statement as it was very true and well writen "unlike" my rammblings

We The Self Imposed Indentured Servants still have not learned that these
criminals will do anything they want.

They know our government is effectively bankrupt, but they sure won't use those words.

They march to the chant of "no more taxes" while putting the security of this nation
on a whopping $11 TRIILION dollar credit card.

The only thing is that THEY don't have to pay back those charges. WE DO!

Yes there should be MASSIVE protests and organized tax revolts, but most people are so
up to their neck in self imposed debt, they do not dare risk their jobs, their almighty credit rating or their friendly status with the IRS.

By this time next year, there will probably be about 10% unemployment.
They'll try to blame it on Obama, but this was 8 years in the making.

Faced with 30 million people out of work, I'm very sadly convinced that
their only solution will be to thin out the population as they did in WWII.

They'll put that on a credit card too and our children's grandchildren
will be cleaning up the mess and figuring out a way to survive.

You'll never find a paper trail of where that money is going.

Too many important people are connected to it.













[edit on 14-12-2008 by FallenFromTheTree]

reply to post by DimensionalDetective

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Good post.

If we're paying for some of this "bail out" (which the tax payers are if my understanding is correct).

Isn't it customary to get an itemized bill for what your paying for?

Taxation without representation was one of the reasons we went to war against England in 1776 seems we're paying for the elite's greediness.

Exactly this.

The poor become soldiers, the poor suffer starvation and disease. The wealthy and their families don't. They watch from above, while looking at new and inventive ways to profit further from the misery.

In all fairness, every nation should be doing what they're doing in Greece right now. We should all be protesting against the leaders who have put us in this mess, we should be fighting the authorities protecting them and we should be fighting the banks who are making billions out of our misery and enslavement.

Instead we keep paying them off and submitting to their blackmail while hoping that it won't get any worse. Of course it will! The corporate bankers now know that they can get away with anything they like and the people are their slaves. They know we have no choice but to submit to them.

Truth is, we do have a choice, yes it means difficulty, a period of chaos and uncertainty, hardship and struggle. But we are going to have that anyway and I'd rather experience it as a result of my own defiance.

reply to post by Maxmars

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The FED is a private corporation, unaccountable to the people of the US, which controls the nation as it controls the flow of money within the nation.

from WikiPedia


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