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Fed Refuses To Disclose Recipients of $2 Trillion in Lending


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reply posted on 12-12-2008 @ 06:08 PM by Maxmars


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Awesome Idea! The notion of State scrip has been tossed around before. The FED would use their charter to control it, but the FED charter only lasts 14-years..., and although they might believe they will never be 'out on their heels' - you never know. Our politicians however cannot be relied upon to support such a notion.

It would be quite entertaining to watch all the squirming and propaganda flying around about it though.



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reply posted on 12-12-2008 @ 06:38 PM by sylvrshadow


Hi All,

Well, it seems that the original terms of the original Bailout are still applicable today (as someone posted earlier).


Sec. 8. Review.

Decisions by the Secretary pursuant to the authority of this Act are non-reviewable and committed to agency discretion, and may not be reviewed by any court of law or any administrative agency.

Source

My feeling is that they dont want us to know because they fear we may come and personally take it out of the multitude of CEO's & Directors "donkey-hind-parts" ( -- not circumventing the censors here!)

I am sure that if we really knew where the money was going there would be riots and chaos in the streets. (Which at this point might help us at least get some of our dignity back )



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reply posted on 12-12-2008 @ 07:14 PM by WSPfan


This is all COMPLETELY disgusting and unacceptable. When will we learn and stand up to this. It is getting REALLY close to time for us all to stand up and take it all back from them. Europe appears to begin to see what is going on, what with Greece protests now spreading. I also see that China has its own issues. In America, they have always kept enough grease($$$) in the wheels to keep it rolling. There have never been enough people "hurt" by an issue for there to be a "revolt". It has always been a situation where if I am hurting, you are fine, so what the hell do you want to complain about. Those days are over. The MSM is losing control over the information sharing process. We will see if it lasts, but there appears to be a worldwide populist uprising or at least the beginnings of one.



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reply posted on 12-12-2008 @ 07:43 PM by Adonsa


Citigroup sent $2.5 BILLION of it straight to India, to Ratan Tata.
This pays the India domociled replacement workers - replacements for the 53,000 US citizens either fired or about to be fired by Citigroup.


www.businessweek.com... chan=globalbiz_asia+index+page_technology


Ratan Tata gets $2.5 Billion US tax dollars!



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reply posted on 12-12-2008 @ 08:11 PM by mybigunit


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This is just wrong man. I mean really this is just wrong. These guys are bailing ship with our tax money. Someone needs to pick these guys off. Wow.

[edit on 12-12-2008 by mybigunit]



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reply posted on 12-12-2008 @ 08:28 PM by stinger94


I would say that until the MSM starts talking about it, the American public will not listen. They will fall for what ever TPTB throw at us. Another Britney or celebrity scandal, a war, or whatever that can focus the masses one place while they screw us with the other.



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reply posted on 12-12-2008 @ 09:09 PM by BrokenVisage


Just to put it all in perspective, that's nearly the equivalent of THREE buyouts! How is this possible? I thought the Federal Reserve wasn't even run by our government technically, and even if they are why can't SOMEBODY step in here and demand it!? 2 TRILLION! 2,000 BILLION! How are there NOT strictly-enforced rules in place to prevent this?



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reply posted on 12-12-2008 @ 09:15 PM by eventHorizon


i just had a thought - perhaps FED is at its final phases???
imagine this - they were stealing from citizens for over 100 years now.

what if this is the END game for FED? and they know it???

they will take ALL they can, secretly...and let the SHTF.
then in 10-15 years, then sh*& settles, they will magically
re-appear under "US Central Bank" name for example..
did same pattern happen before?

i know, i know - but what if it's true this time around as well?


[edit on 12-12-2008 by eventHorizon]



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reply posted on 12-12-2008 @ 09:21 PM by mybigunit


Originally posted by eventHorizon
i just had a thought - perhaps FED is at its final phases???
imagine this - they were stealing from citizens for over 100 years now.

what if this is the END game for FED? and they know it???

they will take ALL they can, secretly...and let the SHTF.
then in 10-15 years, then sh*& settles, they will magically
re-appear under "US Central Bank" name for example..
did same pattern happen before?

i know, i know - but what if it's true this time around as well?


[edit on 12-12-2008 by eventHorizon]


If this is a payoff to get rid of the FED then its worth every dime we give them to get rid of the VIRUS known as the FED and their bankster thugs. Interesting theory.



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reply posted on 12-12-2008 @ 09:59 PM by xoxo stacie


They arent telling anyone where they sent the money because it has nothing to do with any business with in the USA.
If you follow the news trails real close and look at which bank is doing what you can see that alot of the funds they have been using where to buy up stuff in Asian countries and all around the EU. Very little of the money if any has gone to anything on this continent!



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reply posted on 12-12-2008 @ 10:45 PM by Mailman


If our President elect attempts to resolve this for our working men and women, I will gladly support him 100%

If he doesnt well then I guess the majority were wrong werent they?

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reply posted on 12-12-2008 @ 11:15 PM by IX-777


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You may disagree to this as much as you want, and I find that fair, never theless this is my answer to the so called "alien abductions" that happens here in lower levels of existence. It is, at least, a partial answer to this question, and I DO ADMIT THERE CAN BE MORE TO IT!

But, what i just described, IS the most likely solution.

Blessings and profound peace be with you
IX-777



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reply posted on 12-12-2008 @ 11:37 PM by nh_ee


Ha Ha, as you know , the FED is a corporation just like Federal Express and doesn't answer to you the US peon.
But you merely have to look at who owns the FED.

Essentially the European aristocracy.

When we won WWII and found the Nazi's stash of gold. Where did it go ?

To the FED.

Where does the Iraqi Oil revenues go ?

The Fed....

Who gets our income tax payments from the FED ?

The European Aristocracy...
British Monarchy ...yes, the Queen of England aka Bank of England
Rothschilds
Lazarus'
Warburgs - one of the original founders of the FED BTW.

Thats why they won't disclose where the $$$ are actually going.
They simply don't want US tax payers who still believe that their tax dollars are used to pave roads and build schools to know where their paycheck is really going.

The opponents to the formation of the Fed died on the Titanic.

"All the wealthy and powerful men the Jesuits wanted to get rid of were invited to take the cruise. Three of the richest and most important of these were Benjamin Guggenheim, Isador Strauss, the head of Macy’s Department Stores, and John Jacob Astor, probably the wealthiest man in the world. Their total wealth, at that time, using dollar values of their day was more than 500 million dollars. Today that amount of money would be worth nearly eleven billion dollars. These three men were coaxed and encouraged to board the floating palace. They had to be destroyed because the Jesuits knew they would use their wealth and influence to oppose a Federal Reserve Bank as well as the various wars that were being planned."


www.vaticanassassins.org...



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reply posted on 12-12-2008 @ 11:40 PM by ctjctjctj


Who says we can do nothing?
We the PEOPLE POWER decide our destiny!


3 Steps to Outlaw Money on 09.09.09

1. TELL everyone "government issues free money and starting 09.09.09, everything's free".

2. STARTING 09.09.09, take only what's necessary from the stores without paying. If stopped, return to 1 above.

3. STOP paying utilities, taxes etc to "force" government to provide everything freely because government issues free money anyway.

NOW copy and paste this everywhere you can. Email this. It's fight back time NOW or never!



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reply posted on 13-12-2008 @ 03:27 AM by Zapataman


Reading this makes me sick to my stomach We must spread the word of this unjust. Tell your family, friends, co-workers, blog about it, call local radio stations get the truth out.

No surprise really, just another move in the old chess board, closer and closer they get to our constitution



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reply posted on 13-12-2008 @ 03:51 AM by johnsky


Well I'll say one thing...

Back during the early years of the United States, your nation separated from Britain by FORCE, because your people were upset over being taxed, and not seeing the benefit of it.

...

And now the same thing is happening all over again... but what are you doing?
What are any of us doing?

Nothing.

Today's generation is just too fat and stupid to lift a finger.

The founding fathers of the United States must be rolling in their graves.


Luckily I'm not in the states, we've got our own issues within my own nation at the moment to contend with in recent times... but I'm rooting for ya.
Once we're done here, heck, we might be able to lend a hand getting your nation back on track as well.

... if we're ever done here.



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reply posted on 13-12-2008 @ 05:45 AM by skeptic_al


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If all the siblings of all the board members of all the bankrupt companies
start driving a different Ferarri every day, I think I know where the money
went.



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reply posted on 13-12-2008 @ 12:08 PM by WSPfan


Originally posted by eventHorizon
i just had a thought - perhaps FED is at its final phases???
imagine this - they were stealing from citizens for over 100 years now.

what if this is the END game for FED? and they know it???

they will take ALL they can, secretly...and let the SHTF.
then in 10-15 years, then sh*& settles, they will magically
re-appear under "US Central Bank" name for example..
did same pattern happen before?

i know, i know - but what if it's true this time around as well?


[edit on 12-12-2008 by eventHorizon]


OF COURSEE IT IS!!! Look the amount the held from the early 1900s until about 8 months ago, then compare it to the increases int he past 8 months!!! By the time we do find out where it is, it will be to late. The crime HAS been commited. The is no recourse as far as recouping the money. The only course of action is to DISSOLVE the system. Pain will come to us all. The only decision is whether we make the pain worth it. Do we endure the pain for TPTB or do we endure the pain for the PEOPLE???



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reply posted on 13-12-2008 @ 04:56 PM by Maxmars


Reminder, the huge 'withdrawals' from American taxpayers were first disclosed on September 10, 2001. $2.5T 'untraceable' said Rumsfeld.

If we add up the vanishing money .... could we not see how we came to be in this mess? You know, if they "can't" tell us because they are 'allowed' not to tell us, perhaps we should discuss the authority of a sovereign nation to 'disallow' that practice.



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