What I'm saying is that when we look at Fox News track record on telling the truth we should really consider whether the story has merit or not FIRST before delving into a debate about the subject matter. That, and some of the things you said in your follow up post are not cool, for instance:

I think we been took by a Black African Muslim and the powers that be have always known this information and they hide it from us. Why did they what a Kenyan named HUSSEIN to be president?

This, to anyone who may not know you, is completely MARRED IN RACISM.

And no I do not think CNN is any better and I'm in no way a fan of political slant. I don't trust Obama as far as I can throw him, but I have legitimate reasons. I'm not trying to pull things from dead air that aren't true and spinning them in ways that do not reflect the truth. I am not the MSM.

I read government documents, accounting documents, I read statements, and transcribed conversations and interviews, I dive into archives, and I use the scientific method. I do my research.

Because of this you cannot ask me to argue facts when you haven't presented any,

The difference is /intent/.

When people emphasized his middle name in order to invoke scare tactics by associating him with Terrorists - that was wrong.

But for him to leave out his middle name when he's sworn in (when tradition demands that you use your full name when taking an oath) in some sort of act to hide it or be ashamed of his legal name, would also be wrong.

The real issue here is, so what if his name is Hussain? Are people really so ignorant that they A: think anything remotely muslim at all is bad? B: that Muslim=Terrorist? Or is it just convenient?

This is childish stuff.

Frankly, I kind of wish someone who IS Muslim would run and win the Presidency. We need to get to the point as a nation where religious preferences do not matter in office. I don't care what your religion is, I care about your policies. That many influence your policies, but if it is in a way I don't like then I just won't vote for you.

I do not believe Barack Obama is a Christian or a Muslim. Given his life history he is probably agnostic or atheist, but a few years ago his campaign advisers warned him he would have to be perceived as Christian to win national office. As such, he has been forced to "play the game" since no non-Christian candidate would win the presidency. That needs to stop.

[edit on 12-12-2008 by LowLevelMason]

The difference is /intent/.

No doubt.

Originally posted by LowLevelMason
I do not believe Barack Obama is a Christian or a Muslim.

I am of the opinion his religion is PANDER. To the CHristians he says he's a Christian. To the Black Liberation Theologists he's an angry black fella with a sprinkling of bible thrown in. To the liberal press he looks down his nose at 'those clinging to guns and their religion' (obviously pointing at Christians). To a reporter he said that the Muslim Call to Prayer was the most beautiful sound on Earth - and a Christian wouldn't say that about a Call to Prayer to a god other than their Trinity God.

Take a look around the World, Not just America, what do you see? a World ripping itself apart because of the mindless crap people have been fed, I became firmly convinced a while ago, that the American administration needed an enemy, been that way for a while, and look at the result? World wide terrorism, as to who the real terrorists are still remains to be seen.

Obama is doing what should have been done a long time ago, he is reaching out, trying to create a peace from the rubble that is left, what does it matter what faith he follows? what does it matter what his name is? fact is this man is looking ahead.

It will only take something like this to start a change, people don't want to be afraid any more of something that before 911 had done no harm to anyone (Islam) we have all been force fed the nonsense and hatred, some wish it to continue.

To use Bush's own words, if your not with us then your against us, face the bloody consequences of that, you make your bed you lie in it so to speak, or as some here in Liverpool would say pull your head in or lose it.

The World is changing, people are tired of lies, being ripped off, fearing what our Governments have planned, stripping us of all we own, these people just don't know when to quit, and i promise you, somewhere, someone is taking notes, someone needs to pay the piper, and I very much doubt it's going to be the people.

Look at this for it's merits not what can be blown up from it, give the man a chance for the love of Mankind, all I seem to see recently, are racist bigots, who have nothing but their own agenda's in mind.

Thats fine as long as they don't get in my face, and leave the decent folk alone.

Give it a bloody rest.

Originally posted by azzllin
what does it matter what his name is?

So all of a sudden his middle name aint a topic? Really interesting considering that during the Campaign he an his people flipped the heck out every time someone used it. That military guy used it and they all cried foul, and he said I used it because it is his middle name and the people cried bull chips.

Now he uses it :cause it is his middle name" an it's OK.
You can not have it both ways...

This is starting to look like the N word, on this part of the topic. Middle Name...

It's always racist when Republicans use it but never Racists when Barack uses it... Cmon people this is doublethink and surely doublespeak.