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reply posted on 12-12-2008 @ 03:14 AM by MikeboydUS
reply to post by DataWraith



My perspective might be off but if that's the case the tripods won't be much bigger than a trashcan, based on the perceived size.

After doing some research through Google, I don't think we have to worry though. It appears that green fireballs/meteors have been seen since the 1940s. One over Singapore was videotaped last year. No one seems to really know what they are, copper meteors(apparently rare), orbital junk with copper material, or something with some kind of copper make up that triggers a lime green light when superheated.


reply posted on 12-12-2008 @ 03:22 AM by MikeboydUS
reply to post by zorgon



Do they normally make landfall or reach low altitudes? This one made it to the tree tops when I lost sight of it behind houses and trees.


reply posted on 12-12-2008 @ 03:23 AM by zorgon
Originally posted by MikeboydUS
It appears that green fireballs/meteors have been seen since the 1940s.


Really? No kiddin?

Seen THIS thread?
Massive object crashes over Edmonton, Canada
www.abovetopsecret.com...


Historically, November has had some of the most exciting meteor displays on record, but, for the most part it is a slow month. The month begins with the peak of the Taurid meteor shower. Although this display generally produces rates of only 5-10 per hour when it peaks around November 4/5, it is notorious for spectacular fireballs that have led many astronomers to believe the meteor stream contains a large population of large pieces generally not present in other showers. The Leonid meteor shower peaks around the time of November 17/18. This display actually made the news from 1999 to 2002, when it produced rates of several hundred to several thousand per hour. But, alas, these times are over and the shower has dropped back to its normal mode of producing rates of 10-15 per hour at maximum.


meteorshowersonline.com...

Leonids are usually bright green as they are nickel/iron and nickel burns very bright green. Usually big ones will explode and create bolloids



reply posted on 12-12-2008 @ 03:26 AM by MikeboydUS
reply to post by iced_blue



It was definitely a Copper flame and not Zinc. Zinc has more of a blue green or true green color. This object had that neon lime color just like the flame from copper.


reply posted on 12-12-2008 @ 03:34 AM by MikeboydUS
reply to post by zorgon



You wouldn't happen to know where I could get some pics of a Nickel flame? I'm wanting to compare them to copper flames I have been looking at which are pretty much identical in color to what I observed. I can't seem to find any Nickel flame pictures on Google.


reply posted on 12-12-2008 @ 10:23 AM by C.H.U.D.
reply to post by MikeboydUS



Hey Mike,

As Zorgon said before, the green color is mainly due to gases (specifically Oxygen) in our atmosphere - not the composition of the meteoroid.

Most of the light produced by meteors comes from the 'bow-shock', where the air is compressed in front of the meteoroid. The compression results in air molecules becoming excited, and during this process they emit light. Oxygen when excited emits light at the OI forbidden line, which is green.

Check these links for more on the subject:
www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...


reply posted on 12-12-2008 @ 11:27 AM by C.H.U.D.
reply to post by veryrandomannonomous



Which "other incident" are you referring to?

From the sound of it, it's "apples and oranges". Lots of things are green, but "green rods" and "meteors" is a bit like saying a green traffic light is somehow related to meteors...

Why are people so hung up on the color green? It's just a color!


reply posted on 12-12-2008 @ 11:55 AM by zorgon
Originally posted by C.H.U.D.
It's a meteor. Meteors occur all the time. Some are green.


Nice try C.H.U.D. but it won't work Its obvious that the meteor story is a coverup conspiracy...



Don't recall mentioning the oxygen in THIS thread but that is true... However the composition does play a role.


Vivid colors are more often reported by fireball observers because the brightness is great enough to fall well within the range of human color vision. These must be treated with some caution, however, because of well-known effects associated with the persistence of vision. Reported colors range across the spectrum, from red to bright blue, and (rarely) violet. The dominant composition of a meteoroid can play an important part in the observed colors of a fireball, with certain elements displaying signature colors when vaporized. For example, sodium produces a bright yellow color, nickel shows as green, and magnesium as blue-white. The velocity of the meteor also plays an important role, since a higher level of kinetic energy will intensify certain colors compared to others. Among fainter objects, it seems to be reported that slow meteors are red or orange, while fast meteors frequently have a blue color, but for fireballs the situation seems more complex than that, but perhaps only because of the curiousities of color vision as mentioned above.


www.amsmeteors.org...

To Mike... I will see what I can find on the nickel flame... but you can buy some nickel salts from a chemistry supplier. Fireworks companies are a good source of info on the colors that stuff burns at seeing as that's what they base their living on.

One of the things we used to do was soak wood in various metal salts and use them in the fire pit...

Potassium Permanganate gives you red/purple (from the Manganese) Manganese can also give a rare violet



Sodium gives a bright yellow color when added to a flame.
Copper salts give green or blue colors depending on the specific salt used
Calcium or lithium salts give a pretty red color
Barium also gives you green

Sodium metal is kewl you ignite it by pouring water on it but be careful only a LITTLE water or it will explode (yet they made the Trans Atlantic cable out of sodium... remember what happened to Jaws when he bit the cable? It wasn't from electricity that cause the fire )


Too bad Chemistry is History in schools these days... you can hardly even find a decent Chemistry kit... and many of these chemicals are being outlawed in many stated because they can be used to make illegal fireworks and things like meth labs.

Had a cop looking for a guy with a gun in our neighborhood look in my garage as the side door was ajar... Next day the cops stopped by my house to question me on my lab

Got an official apology but so much for freedom huh? (my lab is a geology/ metallurgy lab) but cops only have drug lab in their head

Here is a pure Hydrogen flame... from Sandia Labs



Hope that helps your search

OH BTW the salts are usually a bright color, which is the same as the flame you will get (not always) and is the same color the mineral or crystal will be...






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