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Originally posted by blueorder
I trust you let them make up their own mind about which religion to follow as well?
Originally posted by Jkd Up
I'd like to thank you for your tolerance and input as well. Many times you had taken some "beatings" (as I saw) but your inpt was invaluable! Thank you!
Originally posted by saint4God
Of course. Even if someone 'forces' a child to follow a belief, there comes an age where they will decide for themselves anyway (usually between 14 and 22). In the case of 'force', that tends to harbour rejection and resentment anyway. My child and I have a lot of discussions about beliefs. She believes some things I don't and vice-versa, but we've got a lot in common to my surprise. I'm not sure what this has to do with the topic however.
[edit on 15-12-2008 by saint4God]
Originally posted by Lug
if you really want to be factual about it, why not tell them the story of St. Nicholas and how he became the Dutch Sinter Klaas/Santa Claus?
Originally posted by Lug
reply to post by saint4God
In Holland, there was (for a long time) only ONE person who played the role every year. The man would come riding a huge white horse and be accompanied by his helpers, visiting every main community in the country over the course of the 12 days of Christmas.
I don't know if the tradition is still done in the same way, but it sure is a much more believable system than having a Santa in every shopping mall in the country.
Originally posted by ZenaV
The teacher may not have been tactful about it, but she did the right thing. Lying to your children is wrong. It's nothing more than teaching them to lie. If you're pagan, it doesn't matter 'cause you can believe whatever you want to, but when a Christian does it, he betrays the one who died for him and commits a great sin. Because Satan is a liar and the father of lies. And those who lie and teach others to lie are the children of their father. Who does what they see their fathers do. Christians want to ignore this fact to their peril. They know or ought to know that there will be a judgement day and I wouldn't want to be in their shoes. I regret dreadfully that I ever lied to my kids. It's only added bad karma to the world. If adults can't be strong enough to tell the truth when it's unpopular and nobody else will, how can we ever build a solid dependable future for our children? Only a fool builds his house on sand where storms and oceans can break thru and demolish the structure but smart people build their homes on rock where those things can do little damage. Just my opinion.
Originally posted by blueorder
Originally posted by ZenaV
The teacher may not have been tactful about it, but she did the right thing. Lying to your children is wrong. It's nothing more than teaching them to lie. If you're pagan, it doesn't matter 'cause you can believe whatever you want to, but when a Christian does it, he betrays the one who died for him and commits a great sin. Because Satan is a liar and the father of lies. And those who lie and teach others to lie are the children of their father. Who does what they see their fathers do. Christians want to ignore this fact to their peril. They know or ought to know that there will be a judgement day and I wouldn't want to be in their shoes. I regret dreadfully that I ever lied to my kids. It's only added bad karma to the world. If adults can't be strong enough to tell the truth when it's unpopular and nobody else will, how can we ever build a solid dependable future for our children? Only a fool builds his house on sand where storms and oceans can break thru and demolish the structure but smart people build their homes on rock where those things can do little damage. Just my opinion.
I don't agree, I would doubt very much that the rules God applies to kids applies to adults, is he gonna send a baby to hell for example for not admitting he is saved?!?!?
I was told the Santa tale and know that lying is wrong- not everything that applies to the adult world applies to kids, hence they arent shown porn at 7
Originally posted by Jkd Up
That's why I've gotta wonder about stuff like this. The Easter Bunny... WHat's he gotta do with Christ dying or the Harvest season?
Originally posted by Jkd Up
Why do we make these storys up just so we can dimean and lie to our kids. I know it's all ment as "white" lies and innocent fun, but then we wonder why our kids have truth issues...?