Originally posted by arc de triumphe
Another poster asked this question before and got some critical remarks. He asked if this whole board was a government experiment. If you think about it its possible. Would it be possible that the PTB are using psy-ops on us non conformist to create fear and negativity and division. I find it peculiar that the news reported massive riots if the bailout succeeded almost like provoking us.

Most of the research I have looked into directly links the PTB with occultic ideologies. If that is true then they must believe in a human beings balance. What if they are upsetting the balance of the people that are slipping through their cracks? I have always thought that some of the information that we get is just to easy. What if this web was a trojan horse of sorts? This would make it very easy to dissect peoples and group them and to study us.

Has anyone really ever thought that this website is a controlled experiment? It doesn't sound to far fetched if the PTB are all encompassing and really care little about its subjects why wouldn't they simply shut the site down? Like the Alex Jones of the world if the guys are simply as diabolical like he states why is he and others like him allowed to live? He does have a fancy website much like this one.

These are questions not statements...I have no immediate proof just ideas and hunches.

arc de triumphe governments may set up and fund some forums but they are not all powerful and don't control them all. Typically I'd expect a government controlled forum to delete threads that revealed too much as soon as they moved off the first page. This happened sometimes on Phayul and from what I've read on GNN. Its far more likely that psy-op teams each have their own topics and post on several forums about the same topic. The ones on Phayul posted on several forums but only on the topics of Tibet and China.

I think the 911 topic would be the most likely topic that a psy-op team would cover on this forum. As has been pointed out by some people already in most cases the general public themselves obstruct each other and go off topic and make it difficult to find the relevant information. People have been conditioned by the media to ridicule everything but especially conspiracy theories which means they often do the job of psy-op teams for free.

In all probability many ridiculous conspiracy theories that are based on half truths and are easily debunked come from government sources. Look at the numerous 911 theories. This is a good strategy because it means the public will laugh off even the conspiracy theories that are true. Flooding is the name of the game. Find the true conspiracy theory out of the hundreds of fake ones.

there invading our third eye regions filling our minds with nonsense, psy ops probally wanting to find out how much each of us know if you know how to put up auras protect yourself from psychics lol, everyone

there invading our third eye regions filling our minds with nonsense, psy ops probally wanting to find out how much each of us know if you know how to put up auras protect yourself from psychics lol, everyone

Originally posted by Unknownsoul
there invading our third eye regions filling our minds with nonsense, psy ops probally wanting to find out how much each of us know if you know how to put up auras protect yourself from psychics lol, everyone

Unknownsoul No, psy-op officers for money just post disinformation, argue with people, change the subject and attempt to ridicule conspiracy theories that are too close to the truth.

[edit on 12-12-2008 by truecolours]

I want to know more on this. Anyone else feel the same way?

We can sometimes smell people who are posting with a hidden agenda, but I'd really love to know the extent to which people are criminally abusing basic human trust with stuff like this.

Like with all conspiracies, the question is how widespread or not widespread this is. Are there entire "halls" full of 24-hour-a-day-propaganda-services or are we talking undercover individuals posting from their homes?

Originally posted by truecolours
One of their favourite tactics was to pretend to be a Chinese extremist and abuse anyone that stumbled onto the forum (thus demonising Chinese people). Another tactic would be to pretend to be Chinese and criticise China because such criticism would carry more weight.

NOW I dont think anyone in any way could ever call me Psyops lol, I will as in my previous post on this thread show where they do it, slate the american military, but at the same time also the crazy Jihadist's on other threads....

However Truecolours I could infer from your thread Thrust, where the topic is right but your focus on the Tibet Issue that infact you are working for the Chinese!

There is of course CIA involvement in the discrediting of China's Military campaign in Tibet, look at a Map America is flying drones all over the border there just over the hill's.

However one thing is for sure without a doubt and I don't want to derail this thread on this issue you seem focused on...

Genocide happened in Tibet by the Chinese, and continues to this day.

No spin needed. Fact. Period. They have totally decimated one of the most unique cultures in this world, and continue to do so.

So for balance in this thread why are you not broadening your examples with Psyop's that are happening against Innocent countries and not regimes?

Infact it could be construed by your thread premise, showing the information from the American document and then spinning it back on them, which I have shown I agree and have observed them doing you are using a very subtle type of misdirection and really the intended subliminal inference of this thread is one of supporting the recent Chinese protestations to the French President that if he met the Dalai lama "Relations" between the two countries would be strained, for meeting a Monk lol.

I have quite a large amount of proof of actual Chinese agents responding to my posts on the Tibet issue within this site.... so broaden it or I will Psyop you back with page after page of Truth on the genocide, and how those agents from China have posted on here for a long time

Elf.

PSYOPS, can you believe anything i say for all you know i may be telepathically controlled to tell you lies but what i kno is what i beleive if i was a king, then i still know i what i know OPEN? your eyes not the thread think about how you know you are really you. are you a clone, a simulation, or are you just you? ask me anything about anything im sick of tired of biG brotheR running everything, when it was my turn to run things i didnt behave like brother but well thats a different universe/dimension/planet/life/ what ever you think of reality is.

they let you know of therer budget in RV but they dont let you know of the psychics they hire but you think there are powerful psycihics but knows them persanally ok, millitry knows of them ...why THEY WORK for themok # is everyone blind? the greatest psychics dont get free-domoniation of themselves from the U.S

Originally posted by Skyfloating
I want to know more on this. Anyone else feel the same way?

We can sometimes smell people who are posting with a hidden agenda, but I'd really love to know the extent to which people are criminally abusing basic human trust with stuff like this.

Like with all conspiracies, the question is how widespread or not widespread this is. Are there entire "halls" full of 24-hour-a-day-propaganda-services or are we talking undercover individuals posting from their homes?

My main intention was to expose psy-ops and then hopefully enough people would come forward with evidence to put a stop to it.

I doubt that there are halls full of 24-hour-a-day-propaganda-services. I think it would be too expensive to try and dominate every chat room on the internet. Its much more likely that disinformation is targeted at countries or topics that could potentially embarass governments. For instance forums which discuss Israel/Palestine, Iran, Iraq, Afganistan, China/Tibet/Mongolia/Xinjiang, Pakistan, Russia, 911 etc.

Even so I don't think that people should be too paranoid about it and go around accusing everybody who doesn't agree with you. There are many groups with agendas who post on the internet. for example religious groups Christians (eg creationists and the like), Jews, Buddhists, etc. Nationalists,
supremasists, environmental campaigners etc etc. Governments' psy-op teams are just another group and should be tackled in exactly the same way as other posters and thats with logical arguments and as much academic evidence as you can get.

Obviously they will never agree with you but the evidence that you post is for the benefit of the many other people who will read the posts.

Phayul and GNN are both news service websites and thats why I believe they were assigned their own psy-ops teams. In the case of Phayul this brings the added advantage of convincing all the 'free Tibet' campaigners that China is evil having murdered 1.2 million Tibetans and the Dalai Lama is like Ghandi then they will go out and do your work for you. To many Westerners (not all) that follow Tibetan Buddhism the Dalai Lama is a god king and they find it very difficult to believe that he would ever lie and these type of people won't be easily swayed by evidence to the contrary.





[edit on 12-12-2008 by truecolours]

If I were in charge of domestic counterintelligence, I'd set up an anti government or conspiracy website, to function as a "vacuum cleaner."

Not so much to control the opinion of the dissenters, but to keep them posting on my site so they'd reveal what they were thinking. Much cheaper than field agents.

If I did such a thing, I could publicly refute thier arguments, introduce "evidence" into the court of public opinion, and keep them so busy defending their ideals that they didn't have any liesure time left to DO anything about TPTB.

Think what I could do to the 911/truth movement for example.

Or al queda. I could set up a faux-activist/terrorist website, and have people voluntarily "registering themselves" everytime they log in.

"Hey, it's been a week since Farouq or Larry have logged onto my site. Somebody better go check their apartment, to see what they've gotten up to...."
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Originally posted by MischeviousElf

Originally posted by truecolours
One of their favourite tactics was to pretend to be a Chinese extremist and abuse anyone that stumbled onto the forum (thus demonising Chinese people). Another tactic would be to pretend to be Chinese and criticise China because such criticism would carry more weight.

NOW I dont think anyone in any way could ever call me Psyops lol, I will as in my previous post on this thread show where they do it, slate the american military, but at the same time also the crazy Jihadist's on other threads....

However Truecolours I could infer from your thread Thrust, where the topic is right but your focus on the Tibet Issue that infact you are working for the Chinese!

There is of course CIA involvement in the discrediting of China's Military campaign in Tibet, look at a Map America is flying drones all over the border there just over the hill's.

However one thing is for sure without a doubt and I don't want to derail this thread on this issue you seem focused on...

Genocide happened in Tibet by the Chinese, and continues to this day.

No spin needed. Fact. Period. They have totally decimated one of the most unique cultures in this world, and continue to do so.

So for balance in this thread why are you not broadening your examples with Psyop's that are happening against Innocent countries and not regimes?

Infact it could be construed by your thread premise, showing the information from the American document and then spinning it back on them, which I have shown I agree and have observed them doing you are using a very subtle type of misdirection and really the intended subliminal inference of this thread is one of supporting the recent Chinese protestations to the French President that if he met the Dalai lama "Relations" between the two countries would be strained, for meeting a Monk lol.

I have quite a large amount of proof of actual Chinese agents responding to my posts on the Tibet issue within this site.... so broaden it or I will Psyop you back with page after page of Truth on the genocide, and how those agents from China have posted on here for a long time

Elf.

MischievousElf I wouldn’t accuse you of being psy-ops either. But aren’t you being a little hypocritical to accuse me of working for the Chinese just because you don’t agree with what little I’ve revealed about my opinions on Tibet and China. I am not Chinese and I’m not working for the Chinese but I do have an interest in China’s and Tibet’s histories. But not exclusively.

You assume you are right that the Chinese murdered 1.2 million Tibetans and that anyone who disagrees with this point of view must be either Chinese or working for the Chinese. This is actually more interesting than the argument of whether or not the Tibetan government in exile or the Chinese government is right. I would suggest that you have unknowingly swallowed a great deal of propaganda as the genocide claims have been debunked by several respected academics and neither the Tibetan Government in exile nor the Dalai Lama make these claims anymore. Only the US backed ‘free Tibet’ campaign groups still claim genocide occured.

The reason I’m not broadening my examples of the effects that psy-ops are having on other countries is that this thread is about US psy-ops teams posting on forums. I know very little about what is happening on forums other than Phayul and GNN. I was hoping for some input from other people maybe even former military personel who used to do this kind of work.

State your proof that Chinese agents are responding to your posts if you have any. Why did you hold such relevant information back? I’m no fan of the Chinese government nor any other government so I don't know why you think it would bother me. Not agreeing with you isn’t proof and posting on there for a long time isn’t proof either.

Originally posted by truecolours
The Pentagon sees the internet in terms of a military adversary that poses a vital threat to its stated mission of global domination.

I know you didn't write it but could you possibly show me any reputable link that says the Pentagons Mission is Global Domination please.

Hogwash and propaganda is what I say this is, not the fact that the intel agencies and disinfo agents are used but the hogwash about global domination is the Pentagon's Public Mission Statement, I want to see it.

Originally posted by theindependentjournal

Originally posted by truecolours
The Pentagon sees the internet in terms of a military adversary that poses a vital threat to its stated mission of global domination.

I know you didn't write it but could you possibly show me any reputable link that says the Pentagons Mission is Global Domination please.

Hogwash and propaganda is what I say this is, not the fact that the intel agencies and disinfo agents are used but the hogwash about global domination is the Pentagon's Public Mission Statement, I want to see it.

I so regret using that Ron Paul source lol. I found plenty of newspapers claiming that but not the pentagon. I hardly think they would have said such a thing. This is off topic again but some newspaper articles showed a document from the neo-conservative think-tank Project for the New American Century (PNAC) as evidence of the US wanting global domination. I'll post that under another thread though so that you can agree with it or debunk it or whatever without it interfering with this topic too much.

Let's play a different game.

How would you spot a psy-op agent on ATS, if you met one?



[edit on 12-12-2008 by dr_strangecraft]