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A new idea on how the pyramids were constructed


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Topic started on 11-12-2008 @ 10:18 AM by Hanslune


A old theory

By Ivan Szedo

An interesting step by step model, noted some errors in his assumption but it takes a generally different view of the pyramids. A structure not built at once, but added to over time.



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reply posted on 11-12-2008 @ 10:34 AM by merka


Its interesting but to be honest I dont believe in it... If anything it seems easier to build it as is, at least then you can make sure it meet the specifications. I dont think they could have pulled it together unless they planned it from the ground up.



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reply posted on 11-12-2008 @ 10:37 AM by IvanZana


Originally posted by Hanslune
A new theory

By Ivan Szedo

An interesting step by step model, noted some errors in his assumption but it takes a generally different view of the pyramids. A structure not built at once, but added to over time.


Old news, old theory.

Whats funny is that people are still comming up with theories as to how the pyramids were built.

If the Egyptians built the pyramids when they said they did, how did they forget how they did it?
You would think that this knowledge would be passed down to our generation to the point that we would have perfected the contruction with modern day efficiency but that's not the case and this thread is proof.

Han, you believe that the pyramids were built as a tomb for the Pharoa when there is ZERO evidence for that. You also said the pyramids were nothing special and was the most efficient way to 'pile rocks'. Do you still stand behind that ignorance?




Note to add: "A structure not built at once, but added to over time.
" Did the maya and aztecs to the same with the step pyramids in Mexico? Saw some evidence somewhere that stated that the some of the mexican pyramids had older ones in them and that they would build ontop of older structures.

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reply posted on 11-12-2008 @ 10:37 AM by LSDeviant


I was reading the article, and I found it interesting, but then I clicked to go to the next page and suddenly everything was in another language...? Either way, it's definitely cool that people are still looking for ways to explain the pyramids that don't involve aliens. And me, I'm partial to the alien theories.

Anyways, star and flag for you, hopefully I'll be able to find the next page in english somewheres.....

@IvanZana, can you post something to verify that this is old info? Because I don't believe I've ever heard of this. Thanks!

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reply posted on 11-12-2008 @ 10:43 AM by Poet Of Deception


It is amazing to think how it was made. I think the mainstream version is the most accurate. The egyption slaves using the slabs or granite and stone.



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reply posted on 11-12-2008 @ 10:43 AM by Hanslune


My my Ivan getting hostile?



Han, you believe that the pyramids were built as a tomb for the Pharoa when there is ZERO evidence for that.



Sorry Ivan your statement denying everything isn't actually evidence of anything. Okay show us YOUR evidence that it wasn't built by the Egyptians.

Give us your scenario - supported by hard evidence.



You would think that this knowledge would be passed down to our generation to the point that we would have perfected the contruction with modern day efficiency but that's not the case and this thread is proof.



Hans: Lots of knowledge of lots of things have been lost, its a poor example- we've lost languages, religions and technology in lots of cultures over many areas. Its rather natural.

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reply posted on 11-12-2008 @ 10:47 AM by IvanZana


Originally posted by Hanslune
My my Ivan getting hostile?



Han, you believe that the pyramids were built as a tomb for the Pharoa when there is ZERO evidence for that.



Sorry Ivan your statement denying everything isn't actually evidence of anything. Okay show us YOUR evidence that it wasn't built by the Egyptians.

Give us your scenario - supported by hard evidence.

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Show us your proof that without a doubt it was built for khufu or some other king as a burial chamber. Show us that they pyramids were not built with astrological, mathematical accuracy other than and "efficient way to pile rocks" as you put it.



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reply posted on 11-12-2008 @ 10:51 AM by IvanZana


Originally posted by LSDeviant

@IvanZana, can you post something to verify that this is old info? Because I don't believe I've ever heard of this. Thanks!

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I am lookiong for the technical articles concerning your request, thus far i will give you this
When new buildings were to be constructed, the Maya performed elaborate rituals both to terminate the old structure and contain its accumulated energy. The new structure was then built atop the old and, when it was ready for use, they conducted elaborate dedication rituals to bring it alive....So powerful were the effects of these rituals that the objects, people, buildings, and places in the landscape in which the supernatural materialized accumulated energy and became more sacred with repeated use
www.sacredsites.com...

Is there not even an older structure at the bottom of the pyramid near the bottomless pit?

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reply posted on 11-12-2008 @ 10:54 AM by Hanslune


Sorry Ivan

Why would I do that since its been done a thousand times before. Remeber you have reputation for not actually discussing stuff you just dismiss that which you don't understand.

Much much better to see what evidence you have to support a non-Egyptian building of the pyramids.

So Ivan prove to us, without a doubt, that the pyramids were not built by the Egyptians and were built by 'X'.

We look forward to reasoned discourse backed by hard evidence.



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reply posted on 11-12-2008 @ 10:56 AM by ConservativeJack


old news, repost, old theory..



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reply posted on 11-12-2008 @ 11:01 AM by IvanZana


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Who Built The Great Pyramid?
The identity of the architect is unknown, but three candidates come to the top of most lists:

1.
Eusibius quotes an Egyptian historian named Manetheo who attributes construction to the Hyksos or Shepherd Kings who came from Arabia, conquered Egypt without a battle, destroyed their pagan temples and converted Egypt to monotheism. They built the Great Pyramid and then left for Judea. Job, after whom a book of the Bible is named, might have been part of this group. A generation later the Egyptians reverted to paganism.

2.
Some say Enoch, making the Pyramid a pre-flood monument like the nearby Sphinx. If you measure a side from corner to corner in sacred cubits it equals 365.242, the number of days in our year and Enoch’s age when he was raptured. (Because of their concave nature there are three ways to measure a side. One way equals the solar year, as above. The second way equals the sidereal year, slightly longer at 365.256, and the third equals the anomalistic year of 365.259 days. The last two are used mostly in astronomy. If that isn’t astonishing enough for you, keep in mind that none of these measurements would apply until 1300 years later when the length of the Earth’s orbit increased by 5.25 days.)

3.
Most popular is Shem, son of Noah. Shem outlived 8 of the first 9 generations following the Great Flood, and even outlived Abraham. Some believe Shem was the priest called Melchizedek in Genesis 14. Read for more information.

No matter which of these options appeals to you, the facts remain that the builder knew all the dimensions of Earth and had a command of engineering, astronomy, and mathematics that would be impressive even today.



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reply posted on 11-12-2008 @ 11:01 AM by DangerDeath


All architects and constructors were beheaded so no one could do it again...
Ask Sphinx.



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reply posted on 11-12-2008 @ 11:07 AM by Hanslune


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Howdy DangerDeath

No they didn't seem to do that, LOL - which is why most of their tombs got robbed. However during the civil wars a lot of the specialist were probably killed off or didn't pass on their skills.

The two workers villages found near two different pyramids showed that they had worked out a complex method of controlling construction - as the earlier versions show, they got it wrong a few times.



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reply posted on 11-12-2008 @ 11:17 AM by IvanZana


Originally posted by Hanslune
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The two workers villages found near two different pyramids showed that they had worked out a complex method of controlling construction - as the earlier versions show, they got it wrong a few times.


Wrong again. Holey! bad morning?

Not one pyramid has been built before or after the great pyramid that was built with such accuracy and knowledge of the earth as the great pyramid.

The egyptians upon finding the pyramids attempted to copy the great pyramid and failed everytime. Look it up.



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reply posted on 11-12-2008 @ 11:20 AM by IvanZana


With the topic in mind. It seems that the theory proposed is actually lifted from the theories or even facts that the mexican pyramid builders built ontop of older pyramids. Right on top, sometimes without dissassembling the old structure.

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reply posted on 11-12-2008 @ 11:23 AM by Anonymous ATS


the sphinx has recently thought to be built in two separate times. they think that originally it was a lion then later to a pharaoh, because the head is disproportionate to the body. i read it a couple of days ago in, i think, in science daily. they said it could be like a monument to man in case that they would be wiped out.



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reply posted on 11-12-2008 @ 11:25 AM by St Udio


kinda interesting...


the author is using the model of pyramid upgrades that are found to be common among the central america pyramid builders.

seems logical to me.


Pacon !



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reply posted on 11-12-2008 @ 11:30 AM by Hanslune


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Yes it is, that was also done earlier at Saqqara. If you go there its easy to see the extra level and layers added on. Its a reasonable methodology.



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reply posted on 11-12-2008 @ 11:35 AM by Hanslune


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No don't think so Ivan. By chance you are right the best three pyramids are the ones at Giza. But even those have mistakes.

You seem to have developed the 'I know everything disease'. So how do you account for the C-14 dates - let me guess you dismiss them with the Ivan intellect?

LOL

By the way were did you get the idea that the Earth's orbit has increased by 5+ days???? I hope that wasn't another Creationist site?



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reply posted on 11-12-2008 @ 11:41 AM by IvanZana


Dble post


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