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posted on Jan, 20 2003 @ 07:31 PM
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This is sort of a weird question but...

Let's say that we eventually stumble across a planet that inhabits creatures similar to Humans, yet they have no idea that we exist. We study them and find that they have religions too . Would your religious beliefs change?




posted on Jan, 20 2003 @ 07:45 PM
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What would make my religious beliefs change?



posted on Jan, 20 2003 @ 08:01 PM
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just saying that it might provide support for the theory that we created God because we cannot explain our existence....



posted on Jan, 20 2003 @ 09:16 PM
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I'm Wiccan, and the answer is "nope." The religions of another race from another planet wouldn't bug me a bit. I'd certainly want to learn about them, however.



posted on Jan, 20 2003 @ 09:40 PM
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You question is actually a good answer why governments are unable to disclosure any scientific proof for UFO, ETís, magic, most of paranormal phenomenonís not ëexplainedí by Christian doctrine.

ETís are lethal enemies for most churches on the Planet Earth.



posted on Jan, 20 2003 @ 10:46 PM
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About a year ago the Pope recognized alien life and did so while not presenting them as a threat.

There is a very good Movie Kronos called "Brotherhood of the Wolf" you should watch it.



posted on Jan, 21 2003 @ 12:48 PM
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Originally posted by Toltec
About a year ago the Pope recognized alien life and did so while not presenting them as a threat.

Pope is a one of masters of transition toward the new paradigm, like Gorbachov and most of last leaders of just fallen (?) Soviet empire (except of Ceausescu).
Consider churches as big corporations with doctrine supporting their existence. Corporations closely connected with governments. Corporate base and middle management (ëbeware of Bishopsí) will kill or impeach Pope if it will be possible considering him as an antichrist. His only chance is an Opus Dei


The ANTICHRIST
is he
Karol Wojtyla?
AKA: Pope John Paul II
An anti-Christ is one who presents himself as a faithful christian
while at the same time acting in opposition
to the true teachings of Jesus.
One who acts according to the goals of Satan.

More...

Has Rome Become the Seat of...
POPE JOHN PAUL II CARRIES CATHOLIC SYMBOL OF ANTICHRIST...
POPE JOHN PAUL II USES ANOTHER BLACK MAGICK ....

Need more? Maybe book? CONCLUSIVE PROOF....

There is both practically and theoretically impossible to keep the Church business running with ET on the board.



posted on Jan, 21 2003 @ 07:39 PM
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Kronos the probability of life existing in what is known in the Universe is substantial and this is in relation to just life based on carbon. If you want to compare sizes it between the Earth and the rest of what we know of reality (at present). It cannot even be compared to a grain of sand in relation to this solar system.

The advantage we have at present is our location; our Galaxy exists in the fringes of what is called the Virgo Supercluster. An object shaped like our galaxy which has a circumference of 100 million light years (but still not a grain of sand when compared to the universe). You see we are not in the suburbs or in the boondocks we are literally out in the middle of nowhere.

You are presenting the idea that life from other worlds is a threat because of what potentially they might believe. And to be honest given our planet its very likely that the when we make first contact. The first thing that they will not say to us is "Oh you must be from Earth were Jesus came from"!!!!. And then bow down to us and start singing the lords prayer (something, which I place a value upon as well).

As far as the Pope is concerned Truth was kind enough to present similar sites of interest.


Its not proof to present the fact that our current Pope feels its important to accept other faiths as valid interpretations in there own right. Fact of the matter is Kronos 150 million Christians were killed in the past, but that only accounts for about 15% of those killed by the church and 3% of those abused to date.

Is it really worth all that Kronos????

A billion dead to sustain a faith???????????????????????????????????



posted on Jan, 21 2003 @ 08:39 PM
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Originally posted by Toltec
...You are presenting the idea that life from other worlds is a threat because of what potentially they might believe. ...

Please read again my post.
Life from other worlds IS A THREAT for doctrine. And for this damn world order we have.

Originally posted by Toltec
...Is it really worth all that Kronos????

A billion dead to sustain a faith???????????????????????????????????

I agree. We are sitting on the bomb. Fanatics are ready to commit suicide. They will fight. They will kill you and me by the name of TRUTH.
Hundreds hate web sites, publications, media, Jesus brother tomb....
How is possible to safely disarm the old paradigm bomb and make safe transition???????
How much of the time we have???????
Any good solution??????



posted on Jan, 21 2003 @ 09:25 PM
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I think separation of faith might cause many things. Some people will look upon the other world's religion as a new beginning or opening, while others will look upon it as just another religion. Then the radicals will look upon the religion (depending on teachings, i mean you dont see muslims bombing buddhist temples) as an enemy. And they will do what they see fit to get rid of it. Its all a matter of time, mind thought, and current political views. Lets cross that bridge when we get there.



posted on Jan, 21 2003 @ 09:26 PM
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By separation of faith, i mean the introduction of a completely new religion that divides current religions and their congregations.



posted on Jan, 21 2003 @ 10:38 PM
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Ok Kronos perhaps I felt to much that you might be one of those fundies ready to jump down my throat because I felt the way I did. I was very surprised when I entered the Internet and found that the extremist rightwing ethic was so well entrenched here.

Extremism sells newspapers and to be honest my perspective is, that the Internet is a periodical of a different color.

I would not worry about what seems to abound, present what you feel makes sense and the let the chips fall. That is what I have done and you know what they (fundies which thought they could manipulate me) are still standing around saying Huh??



posted on Jan, 22 2003 @ 07:11 AM
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kronos is correct about the pope.

he is not even faithful to christ nor his church, and does infact not
condemn an alien belief when he (knows) they are not of god.

he is a manifest heretic to the faithful, but to the rest of the world he is a good man of peace.


Aliens are created by the government who work with satanism and creat these plans for the antichrists arrival.

Our pope and all popes since the beggining knows god never created another race nor creature in outer space. This pope is aa false prophet in his acts
and is totally anti catholic and is more satanist to his own teachings of god.


he sits in the seat of peter and mocks god, his deeds even reaching into heaven and his blasphemies against god is un believable.


But i keep hearing all these religious (fanatics) qqoutes going on here. yes im a (fanatic).

why?

because i believe in the sole guide of truth and the one god?

or is it because the 2000 years and more of miracles of christ has been given to the world?


or is it that god has revealed his plans to his servants through miracles?


You judge fanatics so easily like me without knowing me and judging on the baises of what you (think) is a fanatic.

fanatics of the true faith do not destroy the world, heretics of the (false) faith destroy the world, thus we get mixed in with them and we will be
(exicuted) with them as planned by satan.

All who have 100% faith in christ will be exicuted by what your own minds think as a wrong way to believe.

Do you think i was just fed jesus all my life?

I haave and had a life without knowing god, what ive seen you have not seen, if you have seen it you
would know where i am coming from, since you have not seen it and why i believe you judge a man whom you dont know
and classify him as (fanatical)

So yes i am a (fanatic) to (men), but to God i am a believer of the god who has revealed himself
to the world through (2000) years and more of miracles.


Would i kill some one for my religion?

I dont kill anybody nor would, god saays vengence is his he will repay. those
who kill for useless desputes are heretics.

I will defend the (truth) of god (not) by killing, but by being (killed) myself.

this is the lives of the saints who lived and died for christ, who were fed to lions for christ, who were burned for christ,
yet they did not kill as the fanatics they were, but they died as a man of peace and defender of truth.


Your same way of thinking tha all fanatics must die will and is coming true and will be exicuted by antichrist when he
orders all faithfull to die because of the same mentality you think of fanatics will be the cause of the cosen put to death.


And you truly will be living under a dictator who has exicuted all (fanatics) who is aa (fanatic) himself.


You just dont have a clue in the world why they and i believe so much, you cant even open your heart to listen to what im saying.


peace.



posted on Jan, 22 2003 @ 06:23 PM
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Amen Reverand Truth.



posted on Jan, 22 2003 @ 06:54 PM
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Truth only an idiot would support the killing of fundamentalist just because they are Christians.

Fact of the matter is fundamentalism is a problem but its cuts across all social differences (race, creed, color and religious orientation). The world we live in today (as in our world society) demands concrete verifiable reasons for engaging in hostilities (Mind you not atrocities) against a particular group or country. And the fact of the matter is there is really no way around that. Literally your antichrist has a snowballs chance in hell of killing any Christian fundamentalist. And your point is the reason why truth, killing fundamentalist just because they feel the ways they do is an extremist act.

Truth the Bible is not God and to be honest neither is the interpretation presented by fundamentalist about the Bible God either.

Knuckles prior to the war in Afghanistan the Taliban ordered the destruction of all Buddhist icons and structures in that country.



posted on Jan, 22 2003 @ 07:36 PM
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Our pope and all popes since the beggining knows god never created another race nor creature in outer space. This pope is aa false prophet in his acts



posted on Jan, 22 2003 @ 07:39 PM
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Originally posted by Toltec

Knuckles prior to the war in Afghanistan the Taliban ordered the destruction of all Buddhist icons and structures in that country.


Yes, I know. While they did destroy the buddhist statues, they didnt go around blowing up buddhist temples, killing the monks and such. Destruction of idols, yes, destruction oh buddhist human beings, no.



posted on Jan, 22 2003 @ 07:45 PM
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First I would love to learn about other religions especially alien ones. I think the best way to have faith is to believe in some thing but also to believe that keeping an open mind is the best way to believe. I must say that faith and belief are a good thing. What I consider fanaticism is the belief that all other are wrong (Especially if you believe that people who believe in other religious will go to Hell).

Truth If you do indeed believe in a creating god a loving god how can you not believe that he/she would want his love through the universe.

Also when you said that



Our pope and all popes since the beggining knows god never created another race nor creature in outer space. This pope is aa false prophet in his acts


Do you mean to say that all popes before were god and this one is evil. Well if you do I must disagree. on a scale of popes our current pope is pretty good you know not being a killer who uses poison and has more then a few children, Or one who was a pirate, Or the one who ordered the crusades which cost the lives of thousands. Of course you could not have not meant that in which case I am sorry but this is not meant as an attack.



posted on Jan, 31 2003 @ 10:50 AM
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Originally posted by Truth

Our pope and all popes since the beggining knows god never created another race nor creature in outer space.


Then why does the Bible say " I have other sheep not of this flock to attend to". To me that's a statement that says there is life on other planets and I would conclude they have the same kind of religion though not exactly the same...

If you think we are the only living planet in this infinite universe, you're crazy. There are more stars in the universe than there are grains of sand on every beach on Earth.

However, if you were to say the only living planet in this galaxy that would be different. And one more point... If we were the only planet to have God's gift of life, don't you think we would have all of his attention.





 
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