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Ron Paul: "We're on the road to Nationalization"

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posted on Dec, 10 2008 @ 10:39 PM

Here he goes again, talking all that wacky truth stuff again.
Referencing the Constitution (how dare he?).

All I can say is: keep talking Dr. Paul. Someone in that room may eventually pay attention.

posted on Dec, 10 2008 @ 10:58 PM
I love how Ron Paul has been right for consecutive years and people are still treating him like the grandpa who mutters conspiracy stories to himself in one lonely corner of the old folk’s home.

I don’t agree with him on a lot of issues but the fact that he is so belittled for continuing to drive the same points for years while other politicians frolic among a field of empty promises and lies is really telling of our mentality as individuals. I guess people are more comfortable with the lies.

Lie to us Ron Paul! Then the people will start listening to you.

[edit on 10-12-2008 by rapinbatsisaltherage]

posted on Dec, 10 2008 @ 11:10 PM
reply to post by spacedoubt

As usual, Dr. Paul speaks the truth, and few listen. If Congress had been listening to him all these years, we wouldn't be in the financial mess we're in today. That is a fact. Any illusion that people have that any of these bailouts will do any good should disappear, as the big 3 are whittled down to the little 1, with perhaps Ford surviving in a much smaller capacity. Of course, the $700 billion bailout has already failed. Credit has not loosened up, and half of the money is already gone. However, there are some that are benefiting, the execs that are still getting those huge bonuses and salaries for the "wonderful" job they did. 10% of homes are now either in foreclosure or in jeopardy of foreclosure. I hope people that are fortunate enough to still have a home really like it, because you will probably be buried in it.

posted on Dec, 10 2008 @ 11:15 PM
Did you hear his voice towards the end of that clip?
It definitely mimics my own frustration.
I get pretty riled up sometimes, when discussing these issues with friends.

posted on Dec, 11 2008 @ 05:18 AM
reply to post by spacedoubt

IMO some of Ron more moderate economic ideas tend to be spot on and in essence this is one of those times . Rewarding bad bussiness practices with loans and subsides only leads an endless loop of failures that can only be broken by letting a company go broke .

I take issue with some of the side topics he raised but those matters are for other threads . In order to bring some balance to the topic I suggest people take a look Ansett , Air New Zealand and the time the NZ rail system was in private hands for examples of when the private sector goes bad .

posted on Dec, 11 2008 @ 05:49 AM
God bless Ron Paul. I do not understand why this man has not gotten better support from the American people.

posted on Dec, 11 2008 @ 06:02 AM
[side issue; i like R Paul, but i voted Constitution Party instead of a 'write in' vote]

Now, about the 'Nationalization' (of America),

the road of Nationalization will go the way of Obamas plan for the massive Infrastructure Renewal programs he is going to propose

You, I, won't be independent contractors nor will be government 'employees' when we 'sign up' for this work & be sent to man camps & family housing provided by the existing FEMA camps.

if one notices, many small banks, S&Ls, even financial firms are falling all over themselves to come under-the-thumb of the financial regulators to access their part of the bailout money programs..
the same mentality is going to motivate the desperate citizenry (natural or immigrant citizens ) to enlist in the Infrastructure revitalization programs...

[edit on 11-12-2008 by St Udio]

posted on Dec, 11 2008 @ 09:15 AM
Whoa.... the edit i made was not added to the earlier post:
so, here is the thought i wished to relate

Peter Schiff, i believe was/is a ATS guest,
was the Advisor for Economics for Ron Paul campaign 2008

good company to keep!
heres an address to a video with Schiff, but i won't 'link' it, you will have to use your browser to access it. since it is only 'related info'

www.... watch?v=UGlyt6u4il4

posted on Dec, 11 2008 @ 09:41 AM
I've been saying the same thing for months. I call it socialism; it's the same thing.

And Obama will deliver it to you, a piping hot steaming pile of it.

Think it's bad now? Just wait.

posted on Dec, 11 2008 @ 10:28 AM
The greatness of great men is often not acknowledged during their lifetime. Let's hope that at the very least, Ron Paul's contributions to the world are recognised in time.

posted on Dec, 11 2008 @ 10:33 AM
Scalywagerism, Ron. Don't throw around "trigger" words in this time of economic danger. Come on, the nation is about to economically sink and Ron is concerned about "Nationalism" by the government. Who else is going to save our collective butts, Ron? This is why, since cavemen, people have come together and mutually decided to have governments. American government has provided, sustained, and protected a stable world that has allowed people like you to prosper and become wealthy. Ron shouldn't bite the hand that feeds him. And, what does Mr. Paul call the last 8 years of the rape of the nation in the name of free market capitalism? What really happened over the last 8 years was the cycnical, psychological manipulation of the American public by the trigger words "free" and "market" while big investment houses pillaged and raped in an environment that was not free, not open, not regulated nor even a market. Wall Street, as we are now discovering, was rigged, artificial, obscenely overpaid, and above all unpatriotic and arrogant. Sorry, Ron, just shut up, we've moved beyond your limited self delusions of a wealthy man whose economic survival is not threatened. So sorry for you but the rest of us hoi polloi have moved on to try to solve this situation.

[edit on 11-12-2008 by havanaja]

[edit on 11-12-2008 by havanaja]

posted on Dec, 11 2008 @ 10:39 AM

Originally posted by Blueracer
God bless Ron Paul. I do not understand why this man has not gotten better support from the American people.

Because he is not the "Chosen One" by the MSN. That should have been obvious.

I do not agree with Ron's Agenda. His Economic Thoughts make a lot of sense though and I think hes right on many points. His hide your head in the sand politics, do not. He would not have made a good president. Not to say the dude we elected will either, but He is the Next Guy and I pray he will.

posted on Dec, 11 2008 @ 10:42 AM
reply to post by Blueracer

well if you must know, its his religion, he Christian and the Christians dont want the truth - they have faith in lies.

posted on Dec, 11 2008 @ 10:51 AM
If he would have been a viable candidate (capable of winning) I would have went for Ron Paul all the way. Instead I knew what the joke was and voted for nobody for President. I knew Obama was going to get it because people tend to flock from one party to the other when times are tough instead of looking outside the box.

PS. The only way he would be viable is if he were doing the same ole and telling everyone the economy is just fine.

I only disagree with him on one point and that is health care. The system for that is in a huge mess. The people that can afford health care are already paying for those that cannot afford it which is why a Tylenol costs 85.00 here in a hospital. If all this unnecessary junk was cut out everyone could have better health care.

I get paid ok on my job but, if I were seriously injured or ill my health care would really exceed my work related insurance policy because it is junk. No insurance company would cover my father when he retired because of previous health concerns. When he had a heart attack his bill for that is 145,000.00. More than likely it will never be paid off. Of course we could do like Killer King and let the uninsured die in the lobby.

Of course I would've voted for him anyway because anyone that shakes up Washington as he does is very much ok to me.

[edit on 11/12/2008 by toochaos4u]

posted on Dec, 11 2008 @ 11:05 AM
Maybe I'm wrong and off the subject here, but It's way too late to fix this problem without 'wiping the slate clean of all debts around the world.'

Just as many people have lived beyond their means and were extented way too much credit, so were the banks with deregulation. When Bush tried to salvage this mess with credit cards and bankruptcies, the train was already barreling down the tunnel towards this economic catastrophy. To me, this wasn't much different than a loan shark at a casino.

I like Ron Paul, but in this mess, he's just another mouse in the glue trap.
Nationalization going global is probably where this is all going anyway. Wasn't that Hitler's plan also?

Riots in the streets will just usher in marshal law as if clockwork.

Ron Paul is to politics as Barney Fife was to Mayberry running for Sheriff.

Maybe he's in a better place so he can at least say something about it. Right now it's like predicting a tornado when it's already on the ground.

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posted on Dec, 11 2008 @ 11:45 AM
I'm afraid his efforts in Congress have about as much effect as a fart in a gale.
Just so much wind expelled in vain.
They aren't listening.
They're following a secret agenda that has them deceived as to the ultimate outcome.

posted on Dec, 11 2008 @ 12:12 PM
reply to post by spacedoubt

I wish more people would listen to what this man has to say. While I don't agree with 100% of his personal views I do agree with 100% of his political views. The government, particularly the federal government, has too much power. We need to go back to basics, back to the constitution and what it stands for.


posted on Dec, 11 2008 @ 12:23 PM
reply to post by spacedoubt


I like the sarcasm seething in your comments, it is as I would do also. When will the American People wake up and smell their butts in the fire? Will they ever? I hope when they send me to a FEMA camp, if I am that lucky, I get to go to the one Ron Paul is in...

posted on Dec, 11 2008 @ 12:29 PM
Sadly in the world of politics and democracy, appearance trumps policy.

While Paul is rock solid in the latter department, he has no real skill in oration.

What he needs is to find a protege with the necessary oratory capability, the right look and the right sort of determination to take on the mantle of "Dr No" from him.

If you're reading, pick me Dr Paul!

[edit on 11-12-2008 by 44soulslayer]

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