**Alert**Plague Confirmed** Los Alamos, NM 10th Dec, 2008, page 1/
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reply posted on 10-12-2008 @ 08:49 PM by kdial1
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Agreed, what scared me is they are coming out and saying in this report that yes it can be spread to humans, through flea's.

BTW, I like your new AVATAR, been about 4 month's since I have been on here.

-Kdial1

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reply posted on 10-12-2008 @ 09:06 PM by NGC2736
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

It would be prudent to make people aware of the risks, so I see nothing overtly sinister in this. As the population increases, the amount of contact between infected rodents, who seem to be immune, and humans is bound to increase. It would be awkward to have even a limited outbreak of the plague, and have it found out later that there was prior knowledge of this without prior warnings of the possibility.

Thank you. This is only my second avatar since I became a member, and I like it very much. it was created by King Lizard; a genius at expressing in picture what I could only put into ineffectual words.




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reply posted on 10-12-2008 @ 09:57 PM by eradown
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There are several strains of antibiotics which can treat the plague.It breaks out every so often in China,but humans aren't as easy to kill as we once were.



reply posted on 10-12-2008 @ 11:12 PM by Kr0n0s
Please do more research on these kind of things and avoid panicked, knee jerk reactions.

People usually get plague from being bitten by a rodent flea that is carrying the plague bacterium or by handling an infected animal. Millions of people in Europe died from plague in the Middle Ages, when human homes and places of work were inhabited by flea-infested rats. Today, modern antibiotics are effective against plague, but if an infected person is not treated promptly, the disease is likely to cause illness or death.


Risk: Wild rodents in certain areas around the world are infected with plague. Outbreaks in people still occur in rural communities or in cities. They are usually associated with infected rats and rat fleas that live in the home. In the United States, the last urban plague epidemic occurred in Los Angeles in 1924-25. Since then, human plague in the United States has occurred as mostly scattered cases in rural areas (an average of 10 to 15 persons each year). Globally, the World Health Organization reports 1,000 to 3,000 cases of plague every year. In North America, plague is found in certain animals and their fleas from the Pacific Coast to the Great Plains, and from southwestern Canada to Mexico. Most human cases in the United States occur in two regions: 1) northern New Mexico, northern Arizona, and southern Colorado; and 2) California, southern Oregon, and far western Nevada. Plague also exists in Africa, Asia, and South America (see map).



Source: CDC Website





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reply posted on 11-12-2008 @ 04:27 PM by kdial1
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This is not a panicked knee jerked reaction, this was simply an "Alert" to people of the Southwest that plague has been confirmed. I myself grew up in Arizona and being an avid hunter, I always kept everyone informed of outbreaks. This is simply a warning to owners of pets, hikers, outdoorsman and hunters that there is an outbreak.

It is better to be informed than to be ignorant. I see since I have been gone members have become very defensive. Sorry if I offended you Kr0n0s, but this is not a fear mongering thread. This is a warning to people of the southwest.

-Kdial1



reply posted on 11-12-2008 @ 04:42 PM by seagull
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

Bubonic plauge has been found in animals in the southwest for years, and years. Really there's nothing new here. Not to mention that there is treatment for it.

Now if it were Ebola, now there would be a reason to be worried.




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reply posted on 11-12-2008 @ 05:01 PM by kdial1
Originally posted by seagull
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Bubonic plauge has been found in animals in the southwest for years, and years. Really there's nothing new here. Not to mention that there is treatment for it.

Now if it were Ebola, now there would be a reason to be worried.




Yes, you are right along with everyone else. Yes there has been outbreaks for years, I have been through the whole warnings when they first were announced years ago. I guess I need to to be more exact in what I am trying to convey to everyone. This is simply a warning that there is an outbreak.

Everyone in the Southwest be careful. Seek immediate care if the following symptoms are noticed:

-Swollen Lymph Nodes
-Spots on the skin
-Difficulty Breathing
-Blood vomiting
-Aching limbs

Do not think these symptoms will pass, seek immediate care as death usually occurs in 50% of people within 4-7 days. Antibiotics will treat this. And many hospitals in the Southwest are well prepared.

-Kdial1


reply posted on 12-12-2008 @ 11:10 AM by seagull
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

Nothing at all wrong with posting a warning. Plauge is a scary thing to behold, I've never seen it first hand, don't want to, but a freind who ran into it in Africa somewhere, I think; on a mission, told me it's horrific looking. Though entirely treatable now...




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