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reply posted on 12-12-2008 @ 12:47 AM by paxnatus
Originally posted by maybereal11 Originally posted by mikerussellus Having been a long time resident of Chicago I would be shocked if there was anyone in Cook County who didn't know that politics were crooked in the Windy City. If there is anyone out there who knows an "honest" politician, please state their name. I don't think Obama is claiming he was unaware that there was corruption in Chicago Politics. He is saying that he was Unaware that Blago was selling the seat. This seems pheasable since it's publically known he was never fond of Blago and avoided him whenever possible. It is possible that Blago in his attempt to sell the seat reached out to an Obama staffer, but that staffer would have looked to insulate Obama and not communicated the same. It's a mistake to assume that all Pols from Chicago are corrupt. Obama was well known in Chi-town for avoiding the "Machinery. As far as an "Honest Politician"...Paul Simon from Illinois was one of my all time favorites and not just because of the Bow-tie en.wikipedia.org...(politician) Really? Obama was never fond of Blago? Was that before or after he helped plan his 2002 campaign? "Obama was well known in Chi town for avoiding the machinery" How is that possible if he was planning Blago's campaign? And we now know how well oiled Blago was. Are you telling me, Obama is squeaky clean and had no idea how corrupt Blago was? Your not that naive are you? I mean how else does virtually an unknown rise to the most powerful position in the world, with little or no experience, if he is not playing "hard ball?" " Did The O talk to Blago or not about the Senate seat? The O says "I have not discussed the Senate seat with the governor at any time." Two weeks ago, David Axelrod said they did. Then, late Tuesday night, Ax said he was "mistaken." Now, we've heard a billion times about how Axelrod and The O are joined at the hip, so how could Ax have been "mistaken"? And remember, Ax ran Blago's successful Congressional campaign in 1996 (but they later had a falling out) and Obama himself helped plan Blago's 2002 guv campaign. As FactCheck.org said back in the campaign "The Democratic governor certainly has been besieged by investigations, controversy and other charges of impropriety. But his connections to Obama are not substantial." Still, smells fishy. www.sfgate.com...
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reply posted on 12-12-2008 @ 02:45 AM by theodorej
Originally posted by maybereal11 Originally posted by Swatman Originally posted by maybereal11 Originally posted by FlyersFan She got to college, not due to her good grades or her intellect, but because of a fill-the-quota thing - affirmative action. [edit on 12/11/2008 by FlyersFan] Interesting Flyers...I have seen this racist line of attack in right wing blogs and articles...do you have source with regards to Michelle Obama being an affirmative action candidate at Princeton? She attended Whitney Young High School, Chicago's first magnet high school, where she was on the honor roll four years, took advanced placement classes, was a member of the National Honor Society and served as student council treasurer. And I am sure Princeton just hands out Magna Cum Luade to every graduate. What about her JD from Harvard...was that some kind of hand out as well? This line of attack on Michelle Obama is a little silly and a little gross. [edit on 11-12-2008 by maybereal11] [edit on 11-12-2008 by maybereal11] release obama's harvard transcripts and essays that he wrote and then we'll talk (a) What on gods green earth does the Pres. Elects transcripts have to do with Michelle Obama's academic record and wether or not she was an Affirmative Action applicant? (b) You can ad that to the list of records you feel YOU are entitled to all the time espousing a concern for the constitution while disregarding any right to privacy. There is nothing private about taking advantage of a government program designed to allow privledge to one while denying opportunity to another at the taxpayers expense......
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reply posted on 12-12-2008 @ 04:08 AM by hannamtong
reply to post by maybereal11 I guess you would define "gibberish" as anything that kills your Obama buzz. Though not drunk, I am giddy. I always make sure to pat anyone one the back who thinks for them selfs. I do not hate Obama like some right-wingers, but I hate to brake it to you that he is just another sleazy politician.
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reply posted on 12-12-2008 @ 05:54 AM by FlyersFan
Originally posted by maybereal11 LIER Liar. Spell it right. (and you are wrong - as usual) Bitter obamatron troll is definately your mantra. Get on topic - if you are able - Michelle Obama and the FBI Affidavit Originally posted by Sestias How do you know her "thesis was a mess?" Did you read it, and what criteria do you use to evaluate it? Yes I read it. It was locked up so no one could see for a long time. (and after reading it, I know why. ) It's available online. It was full of grammatical and syntax errors. There were double negatives and many run on sentences. Spelling and punctuation errors are all through the document. What criteria did I use to evaluate it? Basic English. Google it. Read it. It's a mess. I'm not the only one who thinks so.
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reply posted on 12-12-2008 @ 10:22 AM by Alferd Packer
There goes all the fluff that the Obama campaign spent 100's of Millions of dollars on. Gotta love the puppets and their dirty laundry. Wait i thought it was just the Conservatives that are crooks......? You mean we all were tricked into voting for CHANGE and HOPE? Im confused i thought Obama was my savior? HA
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reply posted on 12-12-2008 @ 10:23 AM by theodorej
Originally posted by FlyersFan Originally posted by maybereal11 LIER Liar. Spell it right. (and you are wrong - as usual) Bitter obamatron troll is definately your mantra. Get on topic - if you are able - Michelle Obama and the FBI Affidavit Originally posted by Sestias How do you know her "thesis was a mess?" Did you read it, and what criteria do you use to evaluate it? Yes I read it. It was locked up so no one could see for a long time. (and after reading it, I know why. ) It's available online. It was full of grammatical and syntax errors. There were double negatives and many run on sentences. Spelling and punctuation errors are all through the document. What criteria did I use to evaluate it? Basic English. Google it. Read it. It's a mess. I'm not the only one who thinks so. [/quote If you are looking for a true interlectual among the college grads of this generation be prepared to invest alot of time....In todays system of education you memorize the text....you pass the test....you get a piece of paper attesting to your brilliance....and now you go into a work place that no longer seeks the best qualified person for the job but must meet certain criteria so as to participate in corporate welfare.....great system...let us take a look at how productive it is...our manufacturing jobs are over seas....our dependance on government is growing and every body is waiting for the mailman for a check from either a lawsuit,or a government entitlement of some kind....in closing if all you can do is comment on my spelling or grammar.....you are part of the problem,certainly not the solution....PS...Iam a high school graduate
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reply posted on 12-12-2008 @ 10:35 AM by theodorej
Originally posted by paxnatus Originally posted by maybereal11 Originally posted by mikerussellus Having been a long time resident of Chicago I would be shocked if there was anyone in Cook County who didn't know that politics were crooked in the Windy City. If there is anyone out there who knows an "honest" politician, please state their name. I don't think Obama is claiming he was unaware that there was corruption in Chicago Politics. He is saying that he was Unaware that Blago was selling the seat. This seems pheasable since it's publically known he was never fond of Blago and avoided him whenever possible. It is possible that Blago in his attempt to sell the seat reached out to an Obama staffer, but that staffer would have looked to insulate Obama and not communicated the same. It's a mistake to assume that all Pols from Chicago are corrupt. Obama was well known in Chi-town for avoiding the "Machinery. As far as an "Honest Politician"...Paul Simon from Illinois was one of my all time favorites and not just because of the Bow-tie en.wikipedia.org...(politician) Really? Obama was never fond of Blago? Was that before or after he helped plan his 2002 campaign? "Obama was well known in Chi town for avoiding the machinery" How is that possible if he was planning Blago's campaign? And we now know how well oiled Blago was. Are you telling me, Obama is squeaky clean and had no idea how corrupt Blago was? Your not that naive are you? I mean how else does virtually an unknown rise to the most powerful position in the world, with little or no experience, if he is not playing "hard ball?" " Did The O talk to Blago or not about the Senate seat? The O says "I have not discussed the Senate seat with the governor at any time." Two weeks ago, David Axelrod said they did. Then, late Tuesday night, Ax said he was "mistaken." Now, we've heard a billion times about how Axelrod and The O are joined at the hip, so how could Ax have been "mistaken"? And remember, Ax ran Blago's successful Congressional campaign in 1996 (but they later had a falling out) and Obama himself helped plan Blago's 2002 guv campaign. As FactCheck.org said back in the campaign "The Democratic governor certainly has been besieged by investigations, controversy and other charges of impropriety. But his connections to Obama are not substantial." Still, smells fishy. www.sfgate.com... Let us keep in mind....our president elect is the quintessential sales man with the agility of a geselle....he has had his ear to the ground and will not get caught in this....the fact that the investigation was ended when it was should tell you that....an opportunity to change chicagos'body pollitic is at hand....the likes of jackson and anybody else that attempted to defraud the people of illinois should be impeached....This issue must end in a special election not on the senate floor....
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reply posted on 12-12-2008 @ 10:46 AM by Stormdancer777
reply to post by paxnatus Really? Obama was never fond of Blago? Was that before or after he helped plan his 2002 campaign? Exactly and I have yet to have heard it brought up by the MSM, actually CNN was harder on Obama then Fox, as far as difficult and incriminating questions.
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reply posted on 12-12-2008 @ 12:29 PM by ItstheShizzle
Originally posted by MissysWorld Read the FBI papers... and further more..OBAMA IS A LIAR! plain and simple.... He's a politician. Of course he's a liar! THAT'S what they do. If you start wheedling out every lying, self-absorbed politician who puts self-interest above their public values, there'd be no-one to run any democratic country. I'm sorry, I realise I'm more a lurker than a full-on member of this site, but, frankly, the constant piteous whining about Obama's suitability is boring the t!ts off of me. He was elected at the end of the full democratic process. Please, guys, get over it and move on. See what the man does in office and then start howling about mistakes.
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reply posted on 12-12-2008 @ 04:34 PM by maybereal11
Originally posted by FlyersFan Originally posted by maybereal11 LIER Liar. Spell it right. (and you are wrong - as usual) Bitter obamatron troll is definately your mantra. Get on topic - if you are able - Michelle Obama and the FBI Affidavit On topic..You infered that Michelle Obama was unqualified to sit on the board she was appointed to. I rebutted that she had graduated Magna Cum Laude from Princeton and had a Harvard JD. You dismissed her credentials as a product of Afiirmative action here.. Originally posted by FlyersFan In a February 2008 interview with Newsweek, Michelle revealed how she got into Princeton. She herself said that she got in not on the strength of her unexception grades, but because of her brother Craig, a star athlete and gifted student who preceded her to the school. She got in as a 'legacy' and as a beneficiary of affirmative action. - her own words. Those weren't "her own words" and the article never stated "unexception grades". Those were comments made by a classmate and you lied. Was that miss-spelled? [edit on 12-12-2008 by maybereal11]
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reply posted on 13-12-2008 @ 03:38 AM by Aermacchi
Originally posted by maybereal11 Originally posted by FlyersFan Originally posted by maybereal11 LIER Liar. Spell it right. (and you are wrong - as usual) Bitter obamatron troll is definately your mantra. Get on topic - if you are able - Michelle Obama and the FBI Affidavit On topic..You infered that Michelle Obama was unqualified to sit on the board she was appointed to. I rebutted that she had graduated Magna Cum Laude from Princeton and had a Harvard JD. You dismissed her credentials as a product of Afiirmative action here.. Originally posted by FlyersFan In a February 2008 interview with Newsweek, Michelle revealed how she got into Princeton. She herself said that she got in not on the strength of her unexception grades, but because of her brother Craig, a star athlete and gifted student who preceded her to the school. She got in as a 'legacy' and as a beneficiary of affirmative action. - her own words. Those weren't "her own words" and the article never stated "unexception grades". Those were comments made by a classmate and you lied. Was that miss-spelled? [edit on 12-12-2008 by maybereal11] Between you and mick and this hysterical idea that factcheck.org is credible when they post bogus colb and cover lies for Obama when now we know factcheck was wrong about Tony Rezko when they said Obama only had accepted a small donation from him when it was $200,000 to the time the defended him saying ayers was just someone that lived in near Obama. Factcheck.org is well known to be one of the least accurate sites for dispelling fact from fiction on the net right now and if you are going to be too lazy to at least mention which parts of those two long posts you could refute with your annenberg pathetic sources, otherwise you end up looking pretty silly for their is much in them both you couldn't refute unless you lied and that is something I already expect from you mick. as for Maybreal, yes those ARE her words and she said that during the Democratic Convention
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reply posted on 13-12-2008 @ 04:01 AM by Aermacchi
Originally posted by maybereal11 Originally posted by FlyersFan Originally posted by maybereal11 LIER Liar. Spell it right. (and you are wrong - as usual) Bitter obamatron troll is definately your mantra. Get on topic - if you are able - Michelle Obama and the FBI Affidavit On topic..You infered that Michelle Obama was unqualified to sit on the board she was appointed to. I rebutted that she had graduated Magna Cum Laude from Princeton and had a Harvard JD. You dismissed her credentials as a product of Afiirmative action here.. Originally posted by FlyersFan In a February 2008 interview with Newsweek, Michelle revealed how she got into Princeton. She herself said that she got in not on the strength of her unexception grades, but because of her brother Craig, a star athlete and gifted student who preceded her to the school. She got in as a 'legacy' and as a beneficiary of affirmative action. - her own words. Those weren't "her own words" and the article never stated "unexception grades". Those were comments made by a classmate and you lied. Was that miss-spelled? [edit on 12-12-2008 by maybereal11] Guess you have never been to a big university have you maybereal. Well that's ok, your posts are more intelligent than most I read her. Lets see now, Michelle Obama was Magnum cum laude and you think that's impressive I take it? mmmm I guess if I told you just about everyone in here class got the same distinction, you would see her as just an average student Cum laude means 'with honor', magna cum laude is 'with high honor', and summa cum laude means 'with the greatest honor'. These designations are given to every graduate who has maintained the required GPA., so even an entire class, could graduate cum laude, magna cum laude, or summa cum laude. The valedictorian is the student with the highest academic rank in the class, if you have a class where no one has over a B average, there will still be a valedictorian but he will not be graduated with honors. DEDICATION To Mom, Dad, Craig [her brother], and all of my special friends: Thank-you for loving me and always making me feel good about myself. And here's part of her creatively punctuated Introduction: "The purpose of this study is to examine various attitudes of Black Princeton alumni in their present state and as they are perceived by the alumni to have changed over time. ... "These experiences have made it apparent to me that the path I have chosen to follow by attending Princeton will likely lead to my further integration and/or assimilation into a White cultural and social structure that will only allow me to remain on the periphery of society; never becoming a full participant. This realization has presently, made my goals to actively utilize my resources to benefit the Black community more desirable." Well, thank-you. You have presently, made my day; never having a better one. (I originally figured this 1985 thesis was created on a typewriter, which would have made it harder to fix typos, but the columns are justified, so it was done on some sort of word processor. Still, Princeton grads are supposed to know that there is no hyphen in "thank you" ...) So, it looks like Barack has had his vengeance on Michelle for calling him "stinky" and "snore-y." isteve.blogspot.com... There are plenty senior theses with famous authors lining the shelves of Princeton University's library. Actors Brooke Shields and Dean Cain used their senior papers to write about the film industry. Actor David Duchovny wrote about Samuel Beckett. Future politician Bill Bradley wrote about Harry Truman. Ralph Nader explored Lebanese agriculture. But few senior theses have attracted as much attention as Michelle Obama's 1985 paper, "Princeton-Educated Blacks and the Black Community." Bloggers have been devouring the 96-page paper since its release. Their interest was heightened by Princeton's initial refusal to make the thesis publicly available. Politico.com posted the full thesis. Plenty of bloggers are posting their takes on the academic musings of a potential future first lady: From Will Offensicht, blogging at Scragged: Mrs. Obama correctly noticed that she was judged by the color of her skin rather than by the content of her character. She was black first and a student second. This is because the Princeton admissions office insisted on admitting students based on the color of their skin rather than on the content of their qualifications. As long as our society insists on affirmative action programs which give blacks jobs and college positions beyond their qualifications, as long as society insists on treating people based on the color of their skins, it should be no surprise that people treat people based on the color of their skins. We've pointed out that Mr. Obama's success in attracting white voters has shown that since institutional racism is over, affirmative action is no longer needed. Mr. Obama has convinced enough white voters that he'd be President of all Americans rather than just a black president that he's close to winning the Democratic nomination. It's time to end the harm done to students like the future Mrs. Obama and end racial preferences. The way to end racism is to end racism, not to practice it at all levels of government, business, and society at large. From Mark Gardner, blogging at WhackyNation: No wonder Princeton University was trying to hide Michelle Obama's senior thesis. The Politico has gotten ahold of it, and, wow! What an angry woman who has a serious problem with blacks and whites living together in an integrated society. Barack Obama and the Democrats should face reality. This senior paper dooms any hope of the Obama couple being elected to the White House. From Steve Sailer's iSteve Blog: So far, I've read the Dedication and the first couple of pages of the Introduction, and that's plenty. You've got to be impressed with how ruthless Senator Obama is -- he'll humiliate his poor wife by releasing her semi-literate college graduation maunderings just so he can say, "Let's move on." . blog.nj.com... persecution is at least a sigh of personal interest. Tolerance is composed of nine parts apathy to one of brotherly love [edit on 13-12-2008 by Aermacchi]
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reply posted on 13-12-2008 @ 11:53 PM by Irish M1ck
reply to post by Aermacchi Did you graduate with any of those honors? Let alone from a prestigious ivy league school?
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reply posted on 14-12-2008 @ 07:15 AM by Aermacchi
Originally posted by Irish M1ck reply to post by Aermacchi Did you graduate with any of those honors? Let alone from a prestigious ivy league school? What Honors Mick?? I guess you didn't read my post did you smart guy It only takes a cum laude to know this and even YOU would most likey be among those in ANY university you managed to get into. Barack Hussein Obama on the other hand, had an Arab Billionare pay for his "prestigious" schools tuition and his grades not to mention influenced his getting his postion at the Harvard Review. Google it yourself and see Mick, you'll have to forgive me for not proving all that but until your man Obama proves he is a Natural born citizen, I don't owe those assisting in his perjury a damn thing [edit on 14-12-2008 by Aermacchi]
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reply posted on 14-12-2008 @ 09:41 AM by theodorej
reply to post by Aermacchi Greetins Aermacchi.......I have read the exerpts below and I must say MO is no more or less qualified than the majority of her class.....One must understand that as long as acadamia is permitted to set the criterio by which people can either qualify or not qualify for positions/jobs where the first and formost requsite should be character, this nation can look forward to more meteoka leadership with emphasis on greed and coruption..The essense of education today is ...you memorize the text....you take the test.....you get a piece of paper attesting to your brillience....A short trip down memory lane will reveal that a vast majority of technologically superior inventions were the work of people who were not exposed to higher education.....The Wright brothers( The Air Plane) Thomas Edison (The light bulb) Alexander G Bell (telephone)Farnsworth(television) and so on Acadamia has produced Einstein and many others and I must say the most glaring acomplisment had to Einsteins'contribution to the development of nuclear weapons....
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reply posted on 14-12-2008 @ 11:09 AM by DarrylGalasso
Originally posted by ThePiemaker eh. We're gonna need more than this to even begin linking Obama to the corruption in Chicago. Unfortunately I agree. I would love nothing more than to post a story like this in the University news; however, it would be considered an un-credible source and they would laugh at it and disregard it. It's too bad that stories like this never appear in what most of the world consider "credible" sources. I am reminded of the movie where one of the characters was reading an enquirer and when questioned by a comrade he said, if you want to know the truth, you go outside of the major media. Although this is true in a lot of cases. The majority of the country and all of the higher learning institutions will not accept this as factual.
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reply posted on 14-12-2008 @ 11:16 AM by Irish M1ck
reply to post by Aermacchi You're crazy. You throw around accusations you can't back up and/or are stupid - like graduating cum laude isn't an honor. I did enjoy how you danced around my question, though. Anyway, you can keep slinging mud. You can back it up with nothing, and I'll just continue to laugh at you, or you can back it up with sketchy sources, and I'll continue to embarrass you by using real ones. It doesn't matter to me. I don't think they let people who use blogs to base their theories graduate cum laude though.
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reply posted on 14-12-2008 @ 11:50 AM by theodorej
reply to post by DarrylGalasso All one has to be... in order to recognise a fraud like Barry O.. is to be of sound character themselves....If that was the case we wouldn't have to deal with him or his cohorts....The first opportunity to stop him was in Iowa....and that opportunity was squandered by simple minded,selfish and grossly uninformed folks who believed the last person they spoke to.. or listened to...in this case it was their televisions...
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reply posted on 14-12-2008 @ 01:29 PM by unworldly
Interesting but if my observations over the past year are correct then no one will care either way because the Obama's are black and that's all that matters... so it's politically incorrect to have any view except that the Obama's are the best thing since the Kennedy's, the wheel, and sliced bread.
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