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reply posted on 11-12-2008 @ 12:08 PM by FlyersFan
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In a February 2008 interview with Newsweek, Michelle revealed how she got into Princeton. She herself said that she got in not on the strength of her
unexception grades, but because of her brother Craig, a star athlete and gifted student who preceded her to the school. She got in as a 'legacy'
and as a beneficiary of affirmative action. - her own words.
And yes her thesis was a mess.
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reply posted on 11-12-2008 @ 12:14 PM by maybereal11
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Originally posted by Swatman
Originally posted by maybereal11
Originally posted by FlyersFan
She got to college, not due to her good grades or her intellect, but because of a fill-the-quota thing - affirmative action.
[edit on 12/11/2008 by FlyersFan]
Interesting Flyers...I have seen this racist line of attack in right wing blogs and articles...do you have source with regards to Michelle Obama being
an affirmative action candidate at Princeton?
She attended Whitney Young High School, Chicago's first magnet high school, where she was on the honor roll four years, took advanced placement
classes, was a member of the National Honor Society and served as student council treasurer.
And I am sure Princeton just hands out Magna Cum Luade to every graduate.
What about her JD from Harvard...was that some kind of hand out as well?
This line of attack on Michelle Obama is a little silly and a little gross.
[edit on 11-12-2008 by maybereal11]
[edit on 11-12-2008 by maybereal11]
release obama's harvard transcripts and essays that he wrote and then we'll talk
(a) What on gods green earth does the Pres. Elects transcripts have to do with Michelle Obama's academic record and wether or not she was an
Affirmative Action applicant?
(b) You can ad that to the list of records you feel YOU are entitled to all the time espousing a concern for the constitution while disregarding any
right to privacy.
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reply posted on 11-12-2008 @ 12:14 PM by ZindoDoone
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If the FeeBees tie Obama to this Chicago Mob/ Daley machine can't you just se the posts here?
" Remnants of Bush's whitehouse Destroy Obama's transition"
" Obama targeted by the White Racists in the Republican party"
'Daley proves Obama knew nothing of the problems of Chicago and Illinois"
If he's going to fall, he's had alot of help from his cronies and the blame is squarely on his and only his shoulders!
Zindo
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reply posted on 11-12-2008 @ 12:18 PM by Swatman
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Originally posted by maybereal11
Originally posted by Swatman
Originally posted by maybereal11
Originally posted by FlyersFan
She got to college, not due to her good grades or her intellect, but because of a fill-the-quota thing - affirmative action.
[edit on 12/11/2008 by FlyersFan]
Interesting Flyers...I have seen this racist line of attack in right wing blogs and articles...do you have source with regards to Michelle Obama being
an affirmative action candidate at Princeton?
She attended Whitney Young High School, Chicago's first magnet high school, where she was on the honor roll four years, took advanced placement
classes, was a member of the National Honor Society and served as student council treasurer.
And I am sure Princeton just hands out Magna Cum Luade to every graduate.
What about her JD from Harvard...was that some kind of hand out as well?
This line of attack on Michelle Obama is a little silly and a little gross.
[edit on 11-12-2008 by maybereal11]
[edit on 11-12-2008 by maybereal11]
release obama's harvard transcripts and essays that he wrote and then we'll talk
(a) What on gods green earth does the Pres. Elects transcripts have to do with Michelle Obama's academic record and wether or not she was an
Affirmative Action applicant?
(b) You can ad that to the list of records you feel YOU are entitled to all the time espousing a concern for the constitution while disregarding any
right to privacy.
it is my right and i am entitled because it is a public document that the PUBLIC is supposed to see. what they are doing is illegal.
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reply posted on 11-12-2008 @ 12:21 PM by FlyersFan
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Just FYI - You guys are going to get hit with some excessing quoting penalties. Careful.
Subject - Michelle Obama is 'specifically named individual' on the FBI affidavit according to No Quarter.
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reply posted on 11-12-2008 @ 12:27 PM by redhatty
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reply to post by FlyersFan
from the same Newsweek article,
At Harvard, she felt the same racial divide. Verna Williams and Michelle became friends in their first year of law school. She remembers many of
their fellow black students worrying that white classmates viewed them as charity cases. But she suggests Michelle was not among them. "She
recognized that she had been privileged by affirmative action and she was very comfortable with that," Williams recalls.
Michelle recalls things differently. A campaign spokeswoman says she had an edge getting into Princeton not because of affirmative action, but because
her older brother was there as a scholar athlete. She was a "legacy," just like any other applicant with family ties to Princeton. Her aides say
Michelle earned her way into Harvard on merit by distinguishing herself at Princeton.
notice how only the aides are quoted to repudiate the schoolmate?
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reply posted on 11-12-2008 @ 12:29 PM by Swatman
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Originally posted by redhatty
reply to post by FlyersFan
from the same Newsweek article,
At Harvard, she felt the same racial divide. Verna Williams and Michelle became friends in their first year of law school. She remembers many of
their fellow black students worrying that white classmates viewed them as charity cases. But she suggests Michelle was not among them. "She
recognized that she had been privileged by affirmative action and she was very comfortable with that," Williams recalls.
Michelle recalls things differently. A campaign spokeswoman says she had an edge getting into Princeton not because of affirmative action, but because
her older brother was there as a scholar athlete. She was a "legacy," just like any other applicant with family ties to Princeton. Her aides say
Michelle earned her way into Harvard on merit by distinguishing herself at Princeton.
notice how only the aides are quoted to repudiate the schoolmate?
it doesnt matter, in both "versions" it wasnt her grades that got her in. golden spoon, meet mouth
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reply posted on 11-12-2008 @ 12:37 PM by Symbiote
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Originally posted by maybereal11
(b) You can ad that to the list of records you feel YOU are entitled to all the time espousing a concern for the constitution while disregarding any
right to privacy.
Public citizen, publicity.
Private citizen, privacy.
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reply posted on 11-12-2008 @ 12:53 PM by maybereal11
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Originally posted by FlyersFan
Originally posted by maybereal11
I have seen this racist line of attack ...
 Yeah .. the old 'say anything negative about the Obamas and you must be a racist' thing ...
No, not "say anything negative about the Obama's" and be labeled a racist.
Belittling and dismissing a woman's considerable academic credentials because she is black as an "affirmative action" giveaway is racist.
It's a racist comment. Own your words.
Also...try citing a source instead of spouting BS.
Here is the Newsweek article you were referring to...
www.newsweek.com...
she had an edge getting into Princeton not because of affirmative action, but because her older brother was there as a scholar athlete. She was
a "legacy," just like any other applicant with family ties to Princeton. Her aides say Michelle earned her way into Harvard on merit by
distinguishing herself at Princeton.
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reply posted on 11-12-2008 @ 01:00 PM by redhatty
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Originally posted by maybereal11
she had an edge getting into Princeton not because of affirmative action, but because her older brother was there as a scholar athlete. She was
a "legacy," just like any other applicant with family ties to Princeton. Her aides say Michelle earned her way into Harvard on merit by
distinguishing herself at Princeton.
If you look above you will see the paragraph just before that in my previous post. 2 different versions being told one by classmate, one by aides
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reply posted on 11-12-2008 @ 01:27 PM by Lazar
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Hmm....!
Just how far did Michelle and Barack go down the rabbit hole to get to the height of where they are today?
Only time will unfold the real story....!
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reply posted on 11-12-2008 @ 01:33 PM by MissysWorld
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I cam across an old news article about Gov. of Ill., which was reporting how he had canceled a large amount of unpaid college loans...
I wish I could find it now..It would be soooo interesting to see if the Obama's were amoung them 
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reply posted on 11-12-2008 @ 01:34 PM by ProfEmeritus
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One of the interesting things is how Tony Rezko's name keeps coming up in all of these investigations.
www.newsmax.com...
Rezko Tie Links Obama and Blagojevich
Tuesday, December 9, 2008 3:36 PM
By: David A. Patten Article Font Size
President-elect Barack Obama’s ties to arrested Illinois Democratic Gov. Rod R. Blagojevich run primarily through Chicago slum lord and felon Tony
Rezko.
Rezko served as the political godfather for both Blagojevich and Obama, helping both to rise in Chicago and Illinois politics. Obama himself has
credited Rezko with helping to his political career.
Rezko raised hundreds of thousands of dollars for both politicians.
A 76-page FBI affidavit released today after the arrest of Blagojevich and his chief of staff, John Harris, says Blagojevich conspired “to sell”
the Illinois Senate seat vacated by President-elect Barack Obama.
U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald called the effort to barter the seat the “most sinister and appalling” of a long list of accusations against
Blagojevich. Blagojevich, as governor, is responsible for naming Obama’s replacement.
Rezko has had extensive ties to both men:
Rezko’s Ties to Obama
# According to the Chicago Sun-Times, the two met in 1990 while Obama was still attending Harvard Law School. Rezko offered Obama a job, but Obama
declined.
# In 1995, Obama billed 32 hours for work done on behalf of Woodlawn Preservation and Investment Corp., a company involved in a low-income housing
partnership with Rezko. He also wrote letters supporting the proposed development.
# Rezko was Obama’s second largest individual contributor when he began his run for an Illinois state Senate seat in 1995. Two Rezko companies
contributed $2,000 to Obama’s campaign, and Rezko and wife Rita reportedly worked on Obama’s campaign.
# In the first half of 1997, according to a report by Newsmax Contributing Editor Kenneth R. Timmerman, two Rezko companies contributed $2,000 to
Obama’s ongoing political operation.
# In the first half of 1998, Rezko provided Obama’s campaign food worth an estimated $457.70 as an “in-kind contribution.”
# Rezko was one of Obama’s biggest contributors when he ran for U.S. Senate in 2003 and 2004, and Rezko was a member of Obama’s campaign finance
committee, according to the Chicago Sun-Times.
# In June 2003, Rezko held a ritzy fund-raiser for Obama at his tony Wilmette mansion. Obama later said, “Rezko was not my largest fundraiser but a
significant fundraiser.” According to Reuters, Obama said Rezko raised as much as $250,000.
# In 2005, as news began to spread that federal authorities were investigating Rezko, Obama bought a house in Chicago’s Kenwood neighborhood for
$1.65 million. Rezko’s wife, Rita, paid $625,000 for a lot adjacent to Obama’s new home, and the two deals closed on the same day.
# Seven months later, Rezko’s wife sold one-sixth of her lot – a 10-foot strip of a 60-foot lot -- to Obama for $104,500.
# In December 2006, Obama told the Washington Post the deal was a “boneheaded” mistake. “There’s no doubt I should have seen some red flags in
terms of me purchasing a piece of property from him,” Obama said.
# The Post reports Rezko and Obama later “collaborated” to construct a fence to divide the two properties, which Obama said was required by city
code. Obama paid for lawn maintenance for both properties.
# In March 2008, Obama said Rezko had raised up to $250,000 to help underwrite his prior campaigns in Illinois – a much higher figure than had
previously been reported.
# Rezko helped Obama’s presidential campaign raise over $150,000. The campaign later donated Rezko’s contributions to charity.
Rezko Ties to Blagojevich
# The FBI says between June 2001 and August 2004 Rezko raised over $1.4 million for Blagojevich’s political campaigns, according to the Los Angeles
Times. (Blagojevich was elected governor of Illinois in 2002, and reelected in 2006.)
# Rezko hosted Blagojevich’s first post-election party at his mansion. Although he had no official role in the Blagojevich administration, he
reportedly participated in several Blagojevich strategy retreats.
# In October 2006, authorities indicted Rezko for soliciting kickbacks from companies seeking state contracts that were awarded by officials under the
governor’s authority. According to the Los Angeles Times and others, $20,000 that Rezko garnered from kickbacks found its way via a middleman into
Obama’s Senate campaign coffers.
# Rezko’s June 2008 trial on corruption strongly implicated Blagojevich. Blagojevich allegedly discussed a state job for a donor, after that donor
wrote a $25,000 check for his campaign.
# During the trial, prosecutors maintained that Rezko routinely arranged shakedowns while serving as a top Blagojevich adviser.
# In all, prosecutors said, Rezko squeezed various companies for some $7 million in kickbacks.
# Following his conviction on 16 counts of fraud, money laundering, and aiding and abetting bribery, Rezko said federal authorities tried to pressure
him “to tell the wrong things” about the Obama and Blagojevich. The Sun-Times reported prosecutors pushed Rezko to cooperate in the corruption
probe against Blagojevich.
It should be noted that Obama has consistently stated he never intervened on behalf of Rezko in any state or federal business. Authorities have yet to
suggest any wrongdoing on the part of either Obama or his staff.
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reply posted on 11-12-2008 @ 03:27 PM by FlyersFan
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Originally posted by maybereal11
Also...try citing a source instead of spouting BS.
Try reading the therad instead of spouting YOUR BS.
The Newsweek article was already referenced and linked.
Obama admits to getting in because she was a 'LEGACY' and
NOT because of grades. Her classmates admit she got in
through affirmative action.
Only Obama's aides claim it was on scholarship merit.
edited immediately to fix spelling
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reply posted on 11-12-2008 @ 03:52 PM by maybereal11
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Originally posted by redhatty
Originally posted by maybereal11
she had an edge getting into Princeton not because of affirmative action, but because her older brother was there as a scholar athlete. She was
a "legacy," just like any other applicant with family ties to Princeton. Her aides say Michelle earned her way into Harvard on merit by
distinguishing herself at Princeton.
If you look above you will see the paragraph just before that in my previous post. 2 different versions being told one by classmate, one by aides
Agreed..though I think if I was going to parse words I would say that her classmate said something like Michelle Obama "recognized that she had been
privileged by affirmative action"...which technically many African Americans say despite never having been directly affected by it. Its a way of
saying that Afirm. Action has moved the community further along and opened doors "for the african American community"
BUT...lets see it your way...both comments were hearsay/second-hand, One an Aide, the other a classmate...niether M. Obama
Compare that to the BS that Flyers said before I checked the source she "forgot" to post...Notice the "HER WORDS" part?
Notice where she throws in the "unexception(al) grades" part? Which is untrue and not even included in the article. She took advanced courses in
High school, skipped grades and was Honor Roll the whole way.
FLYER...LIER It's a theme with you...
Originally posted by FlyersFan
In a February 2008 interview with Newsweek, Michelle revealed how she got into Princeton. She herself said that she got in not on the
strength of her unexception grades, but because of her brother Craig, a star athlete and gifted student who preceded her to the school. She got in
as a 'legacy' and as a beneficiary of affirmative action. - her own words.
And yes her thesis was a mess.
Edit to include actual qoute by classmate from article and avoid paraphrasing.
[edit on 11-12-2008 by maybereal11]
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reply posted on 11-12-2008 @ 03:56 PM by maybereal11
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Oh I read it and you lied. See above. Not interested in discussing an issue with someone who mocks up evidence at every opportunity...Remember the
Hawaii Statute? Or how you changed the wording in the article you qouted there and BH called you on it?
Like I said it is a theme with you.
Later.
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reply posted on 11-12-2008 @ 04:03 PM by maybereal11
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Happy Birthday Redhatty.
Not a one line post.
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reply posted on 11-12-2008 @ 04:24 PM by ngchunter
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Originally posted by VitriolAndAngst
>> of course it doesn't happen by accident. About half the fricken country donated money,
I don't believe all that money came from within the country, in fact I suspect a large portion came from overseas. There are many forces and
organizations abroad that had an interest in seeing Obama elected. If he would release his full and complete donor list I would retract that belief,
but until then...
I don't know many people I respect, who weren't sick of the Republicans.
That says far more about your personal bias than anything else. Of course you don't respect many people who like republicans, you're obviously
pretty liberal in your own political leanings so why should you respect them? I'm sure you don't respect people like me at all, that doesn't mean
I don't exist. To be honest I'm sick of my own party, but that's because they're not true conservatives, not because they were too
conservative.
You don't have to look for any conspiracy, beyond a corporate media who weeds out people who are not corporate-minded. So Obama played his cards
right, and moved to the top of the ticket because the media weeded out Edwards and Kucinich.
"UFO Kucinich" never stood a chance regardless of what the media did (like it or not, seeing aliens is politically deadly in a national sense), and
Edwards' affair would have knocked him out sooner or later anyway. Obama's not my idea of a "corporate-minded" canidate; what kind of corporate
mind says "I'm going to raise taxes on coal so high that it will bankrupt anyone who tries to build a new coal power plant"? What kind of
corporate mind says "I'm going to raise taxes on big business and small businesses making more than 250,000 a year"?
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reply posted on 11-12-2008 @ 04:30 PM by Sestias
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How do you know her "thesis was a mess?" Did you read it, and what criteria do you use to evaluate it?And all this to prove what? That she wasn't
smart enough to be on the board of TreeHouse?
Michele Obama's intelligence is clear to me. Just listen to her speak.
Not everyone on boards of directors are geniuses, nor do they have to be. Nobody can question that she was intelligent enough to function well on a
board, just as she is an excellent lawyer.
Maybe the fact that she was Obama's wife made them look favorably on her, that happens all the time with famous people. That definitely does not
prove that the Obamas bought her appointment.
I've heard that "Candidate Number five" was any one of a number of people. One source says it was Jesse Jackson, Jr. though there is no reason to
assume he was until there is further proof.
Blago's delusional and corrupt opinion about Michelle Obama cannot be taken as a reliable source of information.
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reply posted on 11-12-2008 @ 04:53 PM by theodorej
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Originally posted by PowerSlave
reply to post by maybereal11
The same old strategy of ..well there are just so many right wing rumors and attacks...who cares if any of them are true...there are just so
many...Obama must be bad.
Your thinking is better suited for a high school popularity contest than ATS.
Seems I am too stupid to understand your vast intellect. Could you please explain in highschool terms how this would pertain to a highschool
popularity contest.
I was simply pointing out that trouble seems to be finding him. I didn't even say he was guilty of anything, and still you insist on personally
attacking me. Speaking of highschool........
Nothwithstanding interlect or lack of same.....There is no real reference point for Obama other than his voting record,as dismal as it was and his
outstanding oratory skills....I sense a lack of confidence which is demonstrated by his redecoration of the white house with the entourage clinton
surrounded himself with, he is obviously no bill clinton,not that it would be a good thing if he was....This guy will do whatever it takes to stay in
power including handing over those silly jews who put him there...
These are exciting times.....Phew!!! I hope we make it as a free nation now that we have empowered the poor.....
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