Originally posted by redhatty
Considering the entire line that the conversations were taking, who else do you think that "specifically named individual" was?

Identifying who the "specifically named individual" is is not a big leap here.

redhatty I’m not doubting that Blago talked about Obama’s wife, and I don’t think BH was either. What I’m saying is that I don’t see any evidence on those conversations that the Obamas were involved.

What I’m seeing is that Blago was convinced that the Obamas were involved in a “pay to play” scheme, because that would be the only explanation, in his mind, for Obama’s wife to get a corporate job, and his wife, that according to him had alot more experience than Michelle, didn’t.

I’m not saying the Obama’s are innocent, but from these conversations I don’t see anything concrete that would be enough to put them behind bars, as some members apparently have suggested.

okay all good forgive me for my sensitivity. I think it's just that I am about to start celebrating the 22nd anniversary of my 21st Birthday LOL

and granted, the article does come to some conclusions that have not been proven. Time will tell if they can or cannot be.

It is disturbing how quickly content from the Illinois site linked to in the full article was removed. No retraction, just a complete removal.

The time is getting near! Be prepared to stand up and fight for your damn country!

I promise you if you do not do your part and join the people then you will lose your freedom as you know today. Too many things are happening and they all have to do with money and power. They are trying to change this country right before your very own eyes. If they succeed and we do not like it and then complain, they will ask us why we did not stand up and voice your word when we had the chance?

Barack Obama is neck deep in this. Chicago is one of the most, if not the most corrupt cities this side of Lagos. How could he have possibly kept his nose out of the jar. The man has never had a real job and he has made how much money? Who owns the property beside his house and the deal had to be structured how in order for him to even buy his house? Too many slimmy things going on here. Hillary knows something about him and she is playing that card to the last hand. I think she may have the immpossible ROYAL STRAIGHT FLUSH. If my poker knowledge serves me right, that is the highest hand you can have. I think? Please correct me if I am wrong. CORRUPT and on the record for saying it!

This may sound a little far fetched and may scratch my credibility a bit but you really don't know who I am anyway.

In the intelligence community they teach you alot of things. How to defend yourself, how to solve a problem, how to start a war and make it look like someone else did it. To completely change your identity, your habits, your looks, phyically and mentally. You become a professional actor far better than anyone you have seen in a movie. Jack does not even come close. an they teach you to do what ever needs to be done to complete your mission and that cannot be achieved unless you learn how to see things from OUTSIDE OF THE BOX! Things that seem to be right now are, I think not what they seem to be!!!! Someone is trying to pull a fast one here that will take decades to undo!!!!!!!

What if this man has been chosen to create such a controversy and misdirect the entire world's focus to accomplish a higher goal or agenda?

WHAT IF? To me, that is what it is starting to look like. I have been skeptical of this BHO from the very beginning. I do not even know of anyone who has held the office of POTUS ever having another name besides what they were born with. Do any of you? Has any POTUS ever done this? Why now, why him?

This time being black just does not fly with me. I am not bying it.

Chicago, the MOB, the Russian MOB, Gangs, THE UNION, the big 3, CORRUPTION in its most ELITE form. Everyone you need in one place at one time to literally buy the U.S. Presidency.

This is the state that the man that uniformed voters just put in office.

Guys and Gals and even those of you who are somewhere in the middle, you have been duped if you voted for the BHO. Duped just like going down to your local ford or chevy dealer and getting a bad deal on a car.

That is what this smells of. A bad freaking car deal!!!!! But, with the right knowledge, skill and evidence you can get out of it.

Hillary has the key to this whole thing. Bill will get another intern soon and then all he^^ will break loose.

People, If the country goes to blows you had better be prepared. Imagine the country if we had the scum, black, white, red, brown, grey, blue or yellow committing acts in every state and city like they did in New Oleans'.

Imagine what would happen if they really do try to take OLD GLORY off of the little white house in OUR NATIONS CAPITAL.

WE THE PEOPLE had better be watching like we are and you better join if you are needed.


Yours truly,

Eye of Eagle

Originally posted by dAlen

No matter who would have won, there would be an issue...just takes some time to realize this, as the system is all we have known.

but slowly people are understanding that if something doesnt work - then 'real change' must take place...and this change can only happen 'within'. (No body can fix anyone or anything external to them).


dAlen

This is correct.
This is a "spiritual" issue - not a political one. It is so much bigger than what it appears to be. This species is entering into its very own evolution revolution. : )
This has to happen. We cannot continue being who we are as a species.
Continuing to pick leaders is folly. We ARE the leaders.
And until integrity rules the land - we will continue to lie and destroy.

"I had no contact with the governor or his office, and so I was not aware of what was happening," Obama told reporters as he emerged from a meeting with former vice president Al Gore yesterday. "It is a sad day for Illinois. Beyond that, I don't think it's appropriate to comment."

Pres.-Elect Obama


Truth:

met 11/5/08 w/defendant
met 12/2/08 w/defendant (this is photographed, but not sure where the photo is just yet--saw it on Hannity and Colmes 12/10)
met prior to indictment- David Axelrod, Obama'08 Campaign Manager

You are getting what you deserve: a lying thug politician.

Other lies?
"I will not seek unlimited finds if nominated."
"I will repeal the tax cuts for the rich."
"I will impose a windfall profits tax on oil."
"Mine will be an administration of rivals."

More to come... . I'm sure.

Look what you've done!

p.s." possible ouycome?

Obama is out, Hillary assumes role of Dem nominee, "special" election called.

How's that for revenge?
Scary, right?
But entirely possible.
(recall too, his lies about/associations with/failed memories of Ayers, Pflager, Wright, Rezko)
Really, really scary, right?

Look what you've done!

[edit on 10-12-2008 by jdub297]

Maybe someday, I'll wake up, log onto ATS and find that most people realize that almost all politicians make deals with the devil. It is the unfortunate nature of the beast. Maybe some day people will also realize that partisanship plays right into the hands of those that wish to keep us divided. In addition, maybe some day, I'll find that people realize that everyone is assumed innocent, until PROVEN guilty, whether they are Democrats, Republicans, Independents or Non-political. Would you want it any other way if you were accused by the MSM of a crime?

I predict that someone involved in this caper will shoot themselves three times in the back of the head, while canoeing..._javascript:icon('')

Hello,

The (pick one or more)

__Illuminati
__Bilderbergs
__Trilateral Commission
__Council on Foreign Relations
__Corporate News Media

will make sure that the Obamas (Soetoros) are distanced from all this [Illinois governor] mess.



[edit on 10/12/08 by Adonsa]