Michelle Obama Is The "Specifically Named Individual" In The Affidavit Submitted by FBI

Redhatty...I have read this indictment in full yesterday and frankly don't have time to re-read it.

Can you please specifically direct me to what damning evidence you believe to be there.

On a side note...I appreciated your argument on the Leo case though I disagree it had merit...so despite you being on the other side of the fence so to speak ...I (at present) have some respect for you.

Please direct me to any specific passages that you believe incrimnate the Pres. Elect or his wife.

[edit on 10-12-2008 by maybereal11]

reply to post by redhatty

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Well, I read it from page 60 on and I still don't get it... It sounds like they wanted to bribe Obama but...



Can you be specific as to what you think this means about Obama, because I'm not getting it.

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Yes BH...I read the whole indictment yesterday. Blago went as far as to call the Pres. Elect a "Mother(bleeper)" and said "(bleep) him" because he wasn't offering anything beyond "appreciation" if Blago appointed his recommendation.

Until I see any evidence to the contrary this thread looks to be yet another lame excuse for an Obama hate fest.

Even if Obama is completely innocent of all accusations being brought against him, from this situation to his BC to his alleged links to unsavory characters, you have got to admit at this point that its getting awfully hot in the kitchen. Perhaps this is more of what Biden was talking about, testing his mettle.

Trouble seems to be seeking him out and he is not even officially the pres yet. I wonder though if there is still a major bomb to be dropped some time soon....

Also...I honestly don't get why you are getting stars because you directed me to the idictment? It doesn't say anything incriminating. If anything it proves Obama WASN'T involved.

I swear sometimes the Obama-bashing crew reminds me of giddy drunks in a bar slapping eachother on the back for spouting gibberish.

Show me something in that indictment that incriminates Obama and I personally will give you a star.

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The title of the thread is not clear enough? Michelle Obama Is The "Specifically Named Individual" On Page 64

Michelle Obama had been a director of TreeHouse Foods since June 27, 2005. She resigned from the position on May 22, 2007, eight days after husband said he would not shop at the anti-union store. 10 days after This Telegraph report

From NoQuarterUSA:


From page 57 of the indictment:


Again from NoQuarterUSA


What part are you not understanding?

You could have left it there, but of course you didn't.

The same old strategy of ..well there are just so many right wing rumors and attacks...who cares if any of them are true...there are just so many...Obama must be bad.

Your thinking is better suited for a high school popularity contest than ATS.

Maybe maybereal & BH need to go back and re-read the OP.

I clearly state "If all this is true, there is no way we can honestly believe that Obama was completely unaware, or not a part in any way of the "pay-to-play" schemes in Illinois."

Apparently Blago (through comments on indictment) thought that Michelle Obama's placement on the board of TreeHouse Foods was a pay-to-play "thing."

Please, I respect both of you, and don't see why you are asking me to prove something different that what I have clearly stated.

Maybereal asks "Please direct me to any specific passages that you believe incrimnate the Pres. Elect or his wife." BH asks "Can you be specific as to what you think this means about Obama, because I'm not getting it. " See 2 sentences above.

I am not understanding how you are taking someone's opinion, both the authors and Blago's and trying to turn it into a conspiracy.

The author you site is inter-mixing the indictment, Blago's statements and his opinion without distinguishing between the three giving the impression that this is what the idictment outlines.

Yes Blago complained about financial stress on his family in the wire-taps.
Yes he said his wife was more suited to sit on a board than (assume:M.Obama)
No he wasn't correct about that. Blago is an idiot and delusional
Maybe Blago assumed that Michele Obama was unqualified. BAD assumption. Like I pointed out earlier, she graduated cum laude from Princeton and has a JD from Harvard..I think she has better credentials than the rest of the Board.

By the way...Her sitting on the board and then resigning IS NOT NEWS. It has been around for a year now.

What is the REVELATION you folks are going on about?

ALL I see is unfounded INSINUATION and predictable spin on a story that has been around for a year.



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reply to post by maybereal11

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This is in the Breaking Alternative News Board, not the Political Conspiracies board.

Who is turning it into a conspiracy?

How is NoQuarterUSA's connection of the dots to identify Michelle Obama as the "specifically named individual" a conspiracy?

Attack the message all you want, please stop attacking the messenger

reply to post by maybereal11

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Absolutely perfectly put, this is just another hoopla over something that could amount to nothing. The still underlining quote was that Obama wouldnt offer anything but appreciation; I'd say that sums it up.

reply to post by maybereal11

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Seems I am too stupid to understand your vast intellect. Could you please explain in highschool terms how this would pertain to a highschool popularity contest.

I was simply pointing out that trouble seems to be finding him. I didn't even say he was guilty of anything, and still you insist on personally attacking me. Speaking of highschool........

Okay redhatty.....You say
Apparently Blago (through comments on indictment) thought that Michelle Obama's placement on the board of TreeHouse Foods was a pay-to-play "thing."

This is an assumption that he infered this by making the comparison to his wife. Lets play along with the idea that is what Blago was saying... Blago also thought he could still have these conversations while being aware the feds were investigating him. He also discusses running for president despite being under federal investigation. He also tried to sell a US Senate seat for cripes sake.....The man is delusional. I live in Chicago. We all have known for years that he is out of his gord. I could care less about Blago's opinion as to why Michelle Obama was appointed to that board.

You also say...
I clearly state "If all this is true, there is no way we can honestly believe that Obama was completely unaware, or not a part in any way of the "pay-to-play" schemes in Illinois."

Obama was AWARE of pay-to-play in Chicago. I and every citizen of Chicago is aware of the corruption...

but him being part of it is pure speculation and in my opinion very poorly founded speculation based on the inference of what a corrupt Govenor might have implied in a snarky comment.

Has everyone skipped the passage where Blago curses Obama out for not being corrupt???

The Feds have clearly and publically stated that their wire-taps show that Obama is in no way involved. The transcripts show the same. Yet you choose to reach and extrapolate on what Blago might have inferred and sieze on it as evidence? And ignore the part of the transcript where Blago curses obama out for not being corrupt???

Have at it guys. Enjoy the hate-fest...don't let evidence get in you way.

That’s Blago’s wife, not Obama’s.




I’m sorry if I remain unconvinced, but all I’m seeing regarding the Obamas is alot of thoughts and opinions.

And as far as I’m understanding, Michelle Obama was named because Blago was complaining that Michelle got a Corporate job, and his wife didn’t.



[edit on 10-12-2008 by danx]

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My bad. I re-read your post and I take you at your word that you were just making an observation. Apologies..I mistakenly assumed that you were making a case when apparently you were just expressing an opinion.

No. It's not. It's clear that someone at NoQuarter THINKS Michelle is the specifically-named person.

I think I'm beginning to understand... danx covered it. I knew it was Blago's wife they were talking about there.

By the way, Obama did NOT buy his home from Tony Rezko. He wanted to buy a house that had an attached empty lot, but couldn't afford it, so Rezko bought the empty lot next to it.

At least I feel I'm not completely in the dark. I was totally confused about what everyone was going on about, but now I think I know... Pretty much a lot of assumptions, implications and opinions.

Carry on.

No one ever said that Blago was not referring to his wife, but there are 2 individuals referenced his wife and a "specifically named individual"



Considering the entire line that the conversations were taking, who else do you think that "specifically named individual" was?

Identifying who the "specifically named individual" is is not a big leap here.

If I wanted to go into conspiracy, I'd be focusing on the SEIU connection.

But, I know the source for that link is biased, so it doesn't count

reply to post by Irish M1ck

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Well, Icky Micky, I suggest you slow down on drinkin that green stuff, it is obviously a strong proof. 'Guilt by Association' is one thing, 'accomplice to a crime' is a whole other ball of wax. You are correct about just easing off on Obama, tho. If he is as rotten as some think, it will only be time, hopefully before next week, before he does something that will indict himself publically. A politician like that has no privacy, and is in view of the whole world, 24/7. He is not used to that, and will continue whatever he has been doing. If noone says anything on here, he will still be revealed for the real person he is.

This guy must be American. Notice the words "alleged innocence".... WTF? I thought it was "alleged crime" and "presumed innocent". Guess not.

Not only that but this post was starred all to high heaven meaning MANY agree. Wow.

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