Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. is going to speak at 4:15 today from his office about this since he has become Candiate #5

Originally posted by KonigKaos
Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. is going to speak at 4:15 today from his office about this since he has become Candiate #5

Let me guess, he is going to publicly deny that he was ever a candidate, and he has nothing to do, whatsoever, with the Illinois pay-to-play game.

What do you think?

This im not to sure of, I havent heard much of Jr. till recently. I dont know what type of politican he is. But with the corruption in that states politics I can only imagine. Jackson attorney who spoke a short time ago didnt deny that Jacosn was candiate number 5 but doesnt believe there was any wrong doing?

The feds have tapes of conversations, is there one of Jackson as well do you think?

I wonder how many of the Supreme Court Justices are watching this developing situation closely? They may be more inclined to cause a huge political mess if they feel it is warranted.

I would not be surprised if the Clintons, especially Bill, use this to Hillary's advantage and to get even.

This could get real interesting and Obama hasn't even been inaugurated yet.

Originally posted by Hastobemoretolife
I find a few things very disturbing.

First, the man(Obama) rose through the ranks of the Chicago political machine an yet he claims that he had no clue about "pay to play."

Second, as the article points out that there is plenty of evidence proving that he knew what was going on and not only knew but maybe participated in it.

So what happens if Obama's wife is implicated in this? Does it tie Obama directly into this or not? I'm assuming it does seeing how it was his political position that brought the treasure so to speak.

I was thinking about this when I was watching the FBI give press for this issue when he said Obama is not implicated, but at the same time he said that some people are going to be black and white and some people in the gray.

Personally, I think the Feds are investigating the Obama's, and it wouldn't surprise me one bit.

Yes remember when the took Rezko out,

They said nothing implicted, Blagojevich, in any wrong doing, LOLOLO

One down number two, Obama , to go.

Why is everyone surprised by all this? Does anyone here think that
politicians rise up through the ranks without granting political favors
and deals? Why do people call them crooks and then act appalled
when they fulfill our expectations? I assume in the voting booth that
every candidate I vote for has done shady things past/present/future.
Obama and Bush included.

The important thing for voters is to not give the politicians power over
your day-to-day life. Control your own destiny and you can laugh at
these "scandals", just like I'm doing now while listening to WLS Chicago
talk radio on the headphones while typing this. Good advice my friends!
-cwm

[edit on 10-12-2008 by carewemust]

Liars liars pants on fire.

Now if we could only get the FBI to go after the same type people in Washington we would be making some great progress. I am sure that they also use the pay to play system.

Washington or Bust!!!!!!!!!!

America is going to rise up people.
Its only a matter of time.
And the world is going to follow suit.

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." - Thomas Jefferson

Originally posted by MikeboydUS
I wonder how many of the Supreme Court Justices are watching this developing situation closely? They may be more inclined to cause a huge political mess if they feel it is warranted.

I would not be surprised if the Clintons, especially Bill, use this to Hillary's advantage and to get even.

This could get real interesting and Obama hasn't even been inaugurated yet.

It has been widely suspected that the Clinton's have something on Obama. I have read that Hilary and company may have uncovered some of Obama's skeletons during the Primaries. Hence, her appointment to SOS. We'll see how this plays out. The Clinton's do not like to lose to anyone. They march to the beat of their own drummer. Always have and always will.

Obama never seems to know what is going on around him just like he was not aware of Rev. Wrights racist comments even though he was a member of his church for 20 years.

His inexperience is showing. He can't get his story straight with his own people.

Senior adviser David Axelrod on November 23rd 2008 Fox News -
"I know he's talked to the governor and there are a whole range of names many of which have surfaced, and I think he has a fondness for a lot of them."

Barak Obama on December 9th 2008 - "I had no contact with the governor or his office and so we were not, I was not aware of what was happening."

Get ready for 4 years of "I do not recall" and "I misspoke about that".

Originally posted by FoxStriker
lol.... no one is clean in todays society, the only ones that reach power are the corrupt, no exceptions.

The people should no longer ask:

who is the best candidate?, but who is the lesser of two evils?

Fox

Lesser of two evils?!?!?!?!?

Oh my Lord, don't tell me you think this way. Really? (uses his best Stan Marsh voice)

You mean you won't vote your conscience, only who the MSM tells you who the "best" candidates are?

And so many of you wonder why we are in the mess we're in.

WAKE UP! You have a choice. Its time to make a stand and stop acting like a bunch of whimps.

Originally posted by jibeho
I knew Michelle would rise to the surface somewhere in this mess. The Obamas are far to connected in Chicago and any claim of obliviousness to the games of Chicagoland is absurd. If this all pans out, one of them is bound to get scratched in some way or another.

Wow...
your speculation simply shows us what your desires are.

Originally posted by Irish M1ck
All of you are blaming the Obama's with circumstantial (if even that) "evidence". The old argumentative fallacy of "Guilt By Association".

You know your argument sucks when it is listed as a fallacy.
Funny enough, McCarthyism was a prime example of this (something some of you are still guilty of today).

[edit on 12/10/2008 by Irish M1ck]

Problem is, people appear to be waking up to the fact that 'politics' is 'politics' no matter what form it takes.

Lead yourself and find that you dont need to be lead.

Peace

dAlen

Originally posted by greeneyedleo

This is true. And how scary that a man that will be President of our country is soooooooooooo clueless and ingnorant about his surroundings and associates. Seriously! Ive never seen a person with so many excuses for so many things surrounding him.

Either that or he is a liar.

No matter who would have won, there would be an issue...just takes some time to realize this, as the system is all we have known.

but slowly people are understanding that if something doesnt work - then 'real change' must take place...and this change can only happen 'within'. (No body can fix anyone or anything external to them).

Peace

dAlen

This could turn out really well if there are actual voice recordings and tapes involved.

Maybe we can get rid of the Obama's and Jessie Jackson all in one shot.


One can only hope

Originally posted by BlackOps719



This could turn out really well if there are actual voice recordings and tapes involved.

Maybe we can get rid of the Obama's and Jessie Jackson all in one shot.


One can only hope

Get rid of them, but replace it with what?
We have to stop looking for things external to us to fix us.

We can get along well enough as individuals...no need for a CEO of a country.

Peace

dAlen