'Jesus was born in June', astronomers claim

reply to post by Article11

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" That's the Winter Solstice.

Emperor Constantine is who we worship when we cut down an evergreen. "


So, in YOUR WORLD, there is only ONE answer when looking up something.

Was no one else born on the same day you were born?

Did the world come to a complete stop when the winter solstice occurred?

And I stopped cutting down trees long ago.




And YOU want ME to READ SOMETHING ?!?!?!


you're funny ....

It doesn't matter when Jesus was born or when he supposedly died.

We should cherish and celebrate and follow the WAY HE LIVED!

If we focus too much on brith dates then we end up with things like Christmas where the being a Christian means shopping at Christmas time.



We should remember his teachings in every aspect of our lives and not just celebrate birth days - to me, it is pointless and destructive. My proof is what we have today and what the so-called followers of Christianity have become.

In ancient times when Greeks were informed of someones death they didn't ask how they died but instead they asked HOW THEY LIVED!

Find the true teachings of Jesus and live it. Forget about birthdays...

reply to post by Article11

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" when the Romans instituted Christianity as law they integrated all the pagan holidays like the Winter Solstice, and literally made stuff up to fit the new Government Religion called the Holy Roman Empire. "

So what?

Are you trying to say the romans, are THE, authority here?

The Romans had nothing to do with the birth of Christ!

Since you only seem to know new age secular garbage, FWIW, the Jews are the only ones who celebrate the correct holidays but do not celebrate Christs birthday separate.



Well, you kept your promise of keeping it dumb. Too bad it can't help with anything else.

Your TOTALLY missing my point but never mind.

The bible is not the word of God. It has gone though so many alterations and abuse over the centuries there are BOUND to be contradictions, mistakes etc.

Furthermore, if it is humans post-jesus reporting events then how they hell is it the HOLY WORD OF GOD? Probably some word of a holy man, who makes mistakes...

This is the BIGGEST problem with Christianity - the sources that we rely on i.e. Bible are flawed because of centuries of political modding.

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I thought it was a well known fact that it was a pagan holiday that has been hijacked (like most of Chistianitys festivities) which is a left over from when the christians forced the pagans into their "new belief" Which is why easter is where it is,christmas is where it is and I do believe,Halloween and Valentines day ties into pagan rituals. (not that those 2 are particulaly christian times,just thought I'd use them as examples)

But then,why woprship false idols

*legs it*

come now ladies,tis the season to be jolly

or something like that. This place is plenty big enough for the both of you.

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How did they come up with the number of wise men being three? I don't see that in the Bible.

Interesting if indeed they found the actual Star of Bethlehem, but have heard such 'shocking revelations' before. As I understood it, the current Christmas date was settled upon by townspeople so that there wouldn't be different dates for all the diffferent holidays. I'll have to look that up again. Nevertheless, I don't think there's an issue with celebrating the birth of Christ regardless of date...I know my parents waited until the weekend to celebrate mine a number of times.

I don't know, Christ-mas maybe?