Though many here criticize Obama and have already accused him of being in cohorts with the suspect, it appears Obama is the only reason the governor was caught. A state ethics bill had been vetoed, however, Obama called up some people and got the senate to overturn it.

Also, in case anyone is wondering:

By the time Mr. Obama intervened on the ethics measure, his relationship with Mr. Blagojevich, always defined more by political proximity than by personal chemistry, had cooled as the governor became increasingly engulfed in legal troubles. There is nothing in the criminal complaint unsealed Tuesday to indicate that Mr. Obama knew anything about plans to seek money and favors in exchange for his Senate seat; he has never been implicated in any other “pay to play” cases that have emerged from the long-running investigation of the Blagojevich administration.

So, all of those people who claimed that Obama was involved should possibly reconsider, and even consider giving thanks to Obama for being responsible for helping pass the bill that allowed this criminal to be caught.

Image if he helps implement bills like that in Washington.

[edit on 10-12-2008 by Irish M1ck]

[edit on 10-12-2008 by Irish M1ck]

Wouldn't be surprised if this thread drops like a lead brick because it basically spells out that Obama helped screw this guy over, and that doesn't make for good conservative moaning and hand wringing.

Originally posted by Irish M1ck
Obama is the only reason the governor was caught.

If Obama made the call three months ago ... and the Feds have been investigating this guy for 5 years and getting all the facts down about him .... then how is Obama the 'only reason' the guy was caught?

I'm not giving you a hard time, Irish-fella, I'm asking.

Chicago is notorious for having VERY corrupt politicians and with mobsters thrown in the political stew. Obama may or may not have anything to do with this guy but all roads lead through REZKO - Obama and the Govenor as well. They are all closely connected or are only one degree of separation from each other.

So far - there is no indication that Obama was directly involved with the Gov's currently known illegal hijinks.

I'm sure we'll be hearing 'That's not the Govenor i knew' soon.

Side note - The govenor looks like he's trying to do a bad impression of John Edwards. His hair ... ugh!

I haven't checked O' bama's roots on his mother's side yet, But I was wondering if he may be part irish?

It wasn't that long ago that I had heard somewhere that the mob or mafia isn't what it used to be. Who's replaced them?...politicians? CEOs, lobbyists etc. ? Wasn't the governor having some issues with a father-in-law just a few years ago with alleged mob ties?

O' bama is as if taking on corruption much like 'Jack' Kennedy did. So, how long will this new camelot last?

Sounds like damage control for Obama, not that I'm saying he was part of this stupidity.

My question is this.

Why would his phone call 3 months ago make any differance? This has all played out since the election, the governor wouldn't have been able to "sell" the seat 3 months ago.


Again, I am not saying he was involved, but something the governor said struck me as odd.

He said something along the lines that all Obama would give him was appreaciation and followed that with F them.

Obama had expressed interest in a certain individual to take his seat. Did the governor try and have Obama buy the seat for that individual and was snubbed? Who knows?

The governor is a moron for even having these conversations over the phone when he knew he was being investigated for the last 5 years. The stupidity of the situation is almost comical.

Originally posted by Irish M1ck
She was listed in the report and it said what?

I have no idea. All i read was that she was listed in the report.
I figured I'd ask ya' - is she a full degree of separation or only a
half because she's a spouse?

That discussion is for the other thread.
I thought I'd link it from here for you to see.
(ain't I so sweeeeeeeeeeeeet? )

I just read an ABC article that said they were only listening since October. That's not 5 years!

Originally posted by Irish M1ck
I just read an ABC article that said they were only listening since October. That's not 5 years!

listening to wire taps for three months;

investigating Blago for 5 years (does not necessarily include listening to taps);

You know, we have no clue what took place. I certainly don't trust a "Statement" by any politician until the truth has been uncovered.
Obama was shaking the hand of Blago in December, so, the no contact statement is a lie.

Originally posted by davion
Wouldn't be surprised if this thread drops like a lead brick because it basically spells out that Obama helped screw this guy over, and that doesn't make for good conservative moaning and hand wringing.

Not only that... But you'd probobly be called racist for posting it.

Originally posted by aquiesce
Obama was shaking the hand of Blago in December, so, the no contact statement is a lie.

What "no contact" statement? He said they hadn't talked about the Senate seat. He didn't say they'd had "no contact".