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Originally posted by Simplynoone
Hey at least I watched it ....I also got through about 21 minutes of the first one.
Still listening to it .....even though I agree with alot of what he says about EXTREMISTS ...the rest is just lumping everyone into one lump ...really fair of him isnt it ..NOT >.
The gist of it is faith in anything except Science etc ...is the last taboo that needs to be gotten rid of ...and the Athiests and non faithists can live happily ever after ..with no more crime...no more evil ...no more killings ...just a happy world ...yeah ok ...NOT
Originally posted by funky monk
reply to post by ashamedamerican
But the thing is that you have you started a thread on religion, started going on about how a lot of reigious beliefs are delusional and then you go and tell all the religios people to not defend what they believe.
On topic tho: Religious beliefs arent hurting mankind..... people are. Its like saying that guns kill people or video games kill people. Religion doesnt hurt mankind, people hurt mankind.
And its pretty obvious that in EVERY aspect of society there are going to be hypocritical people and people who arent doing mankind any good. So dont go and act like athiests are the only good people in this world just because of a few "christians" or "religious" people screwed you over or whatever.
mmmm, how about a bit of 1 John 2 - 3 anyone?
Originally posted by ashamedamerican
I assume you're referring to this quote:
"Since people are coming into the thread defend their side of the arguement without reading the page"
I didn't "tell all the religios people to not defend what they believe" I made the comment that alot of people are coming into the thread to spout their religious dogma, idiology, and rhetoric without actually reading what's in the thread.
They are literally defending one side of the arguement, without first hearing the arguement. Which is a good example how these beliefs cause irrational behavior. Not many intelligent people would do that, unless they had been brainwashed by a document to believe it's heresy to speak a solitary bad word against their beliefs, no matter what those words said.
I personally believe that organized religion does mankind more harm than good.
I don't believe that we need a hypocritical book to tell us how to be moral, while that same book tells you that you should do immoral things to people based on theological beliefs.
Originally posted by ashamedamerican
I didn't say that "athiests are the only good people in this world" but thank you for trying to put words in my mouth, misrepresenting someone else's comments and being intellectually dishonest are very rational things to do in defense of a book.
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Originally posted by funky monk
Well with a thread title like "Breaking the last great taboo: how irrational religious belief is hurting mankind as a whole" you cant expect some people to come into the thread and not look at the whole thread esp when your opening to the thread is
I personally believe that organized religion does mankind more harm than good.
I don't believe that we need a hypocritical book to tell us how to be moral, while that same book tells you that you should do immoral things to people based on theological beliefs.
Its not that hard to guess from the title what the thread is going to be about.
You sit there and imply that you believe that all organised religion is bad "organized religion does mankind more harm than good" - by saying something like that you are implying that we would all be better off without religion - in essence this is saying that religion is bad and only out of atheism come all things that are good - its not that hard to work out what you are trying to say here.