Child Sex Slavery Thrives in America

reply to post by ThePiemaker


So you think the 'perps' are trapped in religious shame and guilt causing them to act out these evil schemes, which leaves 'religious moral standards' as the true culprit?
Get real.
When I was DEEPEST in guilt and shame(after an abortion) before I became a Christian, I STILL wouldn't hurt children, knowingly! Sure, I tried suicide and drugs.
These people are over-the-top GREEDY, UNCARING, PERVERTS.
Some may even be demon-possessed. I try to watch mine and other children around me like a hawk and EDUCATE as many as I can about child abduction. So much for your example of religious apathy!
These child abusers will get theirs.

Well my theory about ritual sexual abuse, which is somewhat backed up by psychology, is that it causes the true mind of the individual.... the individual's consciousness... to dissociate from the body. My theory goes even further to say that these gateways/inputs for the "soul" (chakras?) are left void and open for negative entities who are more at harmony with dark and disturbing behaviors to "plug in" to these energy points. There are supposedly seven major chakras, but there are also supposedly many other different energy entry points throughout the body... and this might explain multiple personality disorder certain energy points beckon certain energies which are attracted by the energies coming from the event which is happening to the body.... and the true person who inhabited that body could be almost completely unplugged and dissociated from the body.

Ritual sexual abuse must be... devastating to the innocent psyche of a child... I often wonder how many adult criminals and perverts may just be victims of this ritual sexual abuse themselves. I mean, this doeswn't just appear in an individual out of the blue. Something has to damage their psyche. This is not only sick and twisted behavior, but these people are suffering... whether you wanna believe it's mental illness or etherical invasion, you still should show some empathy for even the worst of criminals.

I had a disturbing meditative experience once which involved me entering the minds of twisted criminals and feeling and thinking what they were thinking while doing their crimes...

I guess it taught me way too much compassion for most people to handle.

Nearly every criminal is a victim. I don't judge people that way. If someone's harming your family, you have to try and stop them. Most of the prisons are filled with traumatized people, or property crimes. But for a truly dangerous person who cannot be rehabilitated, prison may be necessary. But I'm more into rehabilitation than "punishment". Punishment is punishing victims. Many go on about how violent or primitive humans are, the truth is, they can be "reactive" but it takes a lot of conditioning to separate them from their compassion. (This is when they have had a good fair start in life, surrounded with love. Much of world lives in permanent trauma and they don't have that platform to begin with). It takes abuse and in the case of ritualistic abuse, this is done with deliberate knowledge. Mengele was named by Arizona Wilder, this cruel wizard of mind control and what it takes to break a human being's psyche.
So many children are victims of this even without the organized ritualistic aspect.

Originally posted by mystiq
This is something that needs to draw a lot more attention. Its my very strong belief the cia and black ops make much of their illegal profits from drugs and the sex slave market, often involving children, with Bush senior being its head for years, not to mention one of the presidents, along with his son. This is a part of the corruption of the cabal.

[edit on 9-12-2008 by mystiq]

>> Look at how the man put in charge of "child endangerment" by the Bush administration was a pedophile. Karl Rove promoted him AFTER he found out about his weaknesses.

>> IN 2003 -- I think was the year, the senate was going to censure the Saudis for "importing child sex workers" -- it seems like a pretty obvious no-brainer, like being against kicking puppies. But Bush cancelled it.

Look at the CIA "hookers and poker" scandal at the watergate hotel. Nothing was ever mentioned about "what sort of service." Other than the director of the CIA quitting, and mention that homeland security funds were involved -- the media never followed up on it.

>> The Ukrainian Separatists terrorist network, which seems involved in the heroine and kid sex trade, is a big investor in various Bush family companies -- along with the Saudis.

>> It doesn't seem to much of a stretch to think, that if you were running a criminal conspiracy -- that was able to say, have Hank Paulson at the Fed drop a check for $8 Trillion, you would need a conspiracy that was bonded by mutual extortion. Nobody could be "trusted" unless you had enough dirt on them. We've seen this pattern over and over of discarded NeoCons, being caught up in scandals. But what made people that were so active in perversion, untouchable for so long. In St. Petersburg, the newspapers sat on the story for 5 years until an FBI agent got fed up and broke the story.

In a strange twist of the -- forget the young girls name. But there was a phony charge of some former page of the White House confessing to having involvement in the child beauty queens molestation -- it was bogus. But it got him out of Japan where he was facing real charges. The back story on Jeff Gannon is how long he has been up to his "tricks."

You know what, I think we've got the Hellfire Club here. The NeoCons are part of a larger organization held together by having dirt on everyone. Wars for profit, no voice of the people involved in Trillion dollar bank handouts with no accountability, and creating instability so that they can stay on top. To me, this would only add one more bit of disgust -- but not really shocking as to what they profit from on a daily basis.

The drug/human trafficking trade is a way to keep organized crime from being a problem for the real power brokers. As long as they control the justice, and the profits of sin -- nobody can rival them from the back channels. Otherwise, you could have some foreign government pay off a mobster to do some hit -- well that doesn't happen in the "civilized" world, because at the top, the Clandestine services run these mob outfits -- at least that's my theory, backed up by all the drug trade the CIA seems involved in. And if they are involved in that bit -- doesn't that overlap the kind of organized crime making profits on people?

Human Trafficking is something that you don't hear about that often but it does happen all the time. Some of the statistics may be exaggerated but trust me it is a thriving business. Look at the 'Ndrangheta and Camorra...they have been smuggling people around and make some good money off of it. In the US it happens but most of the time nobody knows about it.

Originally posted by asmeone2
reply to post by Jomina

 

Not to mention that a lot of the "legitimate" cases of sexual abuse are falsely implanted memories contrived under hypnotic regression.

THe sad thing, and a bit off topic, is that there have been many convictions based on "repressed memories" alone, without a shred of physical evidence.

Asmeone2, the sad reality here is that the 'Organizations' know this too; how convienient to take a child to a psychologist to have their memories covered-knowing that this issue will come up in court and purchase a time slot on the evening news as an interesting pre-emptive strike for instance in 85 to explain all of this or much of this as 'runaways' and disobiedient youth when the facts remain- where are these people going?

It is sad if one person crys witch where none exists. It amazes me to great sadness that the loudest crys are those crying foul with claims of young people canivary. Maybe this happens sometimes if only to help a friend out of a tight spot and score one for the "boys club' as well, hmmm?

It's often a louder cry, I believe, than the wimpers for help from a population who hasn't even aged to understand the world's trickeries of truths vs evidences, let alone work through their victimizations with the recurrant victimizations of such backlash for pursuing what they have caught wind is the appropriate action for the circumstance. Still even worse, the language and culture barriers, the education barriers.

It seems an odd thought that any but very few would be so intelligent and stupid and caniving to fake it. And that those few do not speak for the mountain range of others.

And yet, I know your right.

I am also too reminded of the perception of a man's want 'to not meet or know the cow before he consumes it.'

And I wonder, if all this is not so because of a great fear that if too many people really know what is happening to the cows, that circumstances will arise in which their will be no more beef.

Which is why I see it continuing really, American's are to chicken to legalize prostitution and go about things by legitimate means. They are trying to uphold a fallacy of a face they do not wear. They don't 'want' the un christian 'stigma' of their houses having thier bloodline members engaging openly by way of law in the very thing they participate in behind closed doors. So, instead of legalizing it to curtail both the strain on the country's men (and women I might add) and end the human suffering;

they look the other way while organized crime cartels move people around, and overlook immigration and documentation laws; as well they fly over seas to engage in atrocities under the misassumption that an American abroad is not subject to American laws while away.

And they permit visiting dignitaries to behave in manners characteristic or accepted in their home countries, here while they are present within our boarders.

No proof and no examples, this is really common knowledge.

I couldn't have responded to your view at 12, sir, with my truth while seeking help; the conflicting information would have sidelined me to great fear and silence as your perception of opposition would have slotted you into the same category of the offenders, in my eyes, for my safety to speak another day--because that is how they talk, and those are the things that they say. It took me awhile to grow up to see that there is a Wider spectrum to what skeptics and opposers are *actually* saying and meaning, although the risk is still present for the the fact of the bilateral behavior. I mean, those ARE the kind of things they say to avoid detection.

So many people are missing because so many missing people *likely* are perceiving this the same way.

And yet, barring knowing you, it is not what you are saying, is it? You are saying, "Innocent until Proven Guilty (edit) and Hypnosis for Recovered memories results in risk of false convictions", that is our right as citizens--o be innocent until proven guilty and to speak against what we feel are false or questionable practices when someone's freedom is at stake.

[edit on 10-12-2008 by HugmyRek]

reply to post by HugmyRek


Your points were all very valid, I didn't mean to lessen them.

What I was talking about is a rather separate area of corruption, in which psychologists take someone who has *not* been abused and use hypnosis to convince them that they have repressed memories of the event, for the purpose f making them into a "continuing patient," i.e, a cash cow.

Often these cases go to court. The 'victim' will usually accuse a close family member. Never mind that these victims have never shown signs of PTSD or other issues which tend to crop up with trauma victims (even those who have "blocked" will still manifest the trauma in some way.) and the abuse can be reasonable established not to have happened.

There is circumstantual evidence for sex rings, but what I was talking about is NOT in the same legue. Sex crimes involving children are SERIOUS and I DO NOT think they should be prosectued without some form of proof.

Check out this book for a better summary.

reply to post by asmeone2

asmeone2, I noticed I tangeted off and responded to thoughts more in my head that were triggered when I read 'memories/psychologist/court'-and not even in the right context, and I'd like to offer my appologee to you and the board for having this happen while in a respond mode that listed your name.

AFTER I finished it all, I noticed you were speaking to the questionable issue of the psychologists effect through suggestion and during hypnosis; and I'd have to totally agree with that assessment, with some reserves for my lack of knowing anything about hypnotic regression.

I'm having a side effect from not wanting to type my story of loopholes of the 'legitimate, barely traceable' child movement system, that I percieved in the course of my own events, and posting 'around' it fills that diversion for me. I should have read slower. I am very sorry for any offense or misunderstanding.

for all your psychological theories and whatnot, i'm surprised nobody's brought this up in 5 pages of this thread.

the abused often grow up to abuse.

it's a dirty secret that has gone on for generations. can u have compassion for a child sexual-abuser who maybe doesn't know anything else? in mind-control, it's been said that the parent is usually the one who initiates the programming. it's all some people have ever known their whole lives.

it's time we all face it, there is no such thing as morality for the people involved in this. they must be taught what good and bad is. they need to be taken into protective custody and deprogramming and rehabilitation done...if they can't change, they should be isolated from society.

Here is another "dementia" of the problem:

Saudi Arabia's participation in international slavery has long been known by State Department careerists who are powerless to react for fear they will be destroyed professionally or will lose the deferred payments promised by Prince Bandar upon their retirement. One has mentioned off the record the widespread knowledge within the State Department of Saudi child theft within the US. Many of the kidnappings in the United States are easily masked within the larger number of runaways each year. The breakdown of the US family has enabled the Saudi princes and their procurers to "special order" kidnap without much concern for law enforcement who are usually looking for someone within the local area. One should often wonder when seeing girls and boys faces in the post office or milk carton wanted ads how many have been "disappeared" to Saudi Arabia.

The website that the above quote comes from has archived many issues of its pages that deal with the Saudi/State Department problem.

www.sauduction.com...

Originally posted by mystiq
This is something that needs to draw a lot more attention. Its my very strong belief the cia and black ops make much of their illegal profits from drugs and the sex slave market, often involving children, with Bush senior being its head for years, not to mention one of the presidents, along with his son. This is a part of the corruption of the cabal.

[edit on 9-12-2008 by mystiq]

id like to see sources that would lead one to believe "very strongly" that the CIA makes $ from the illegal drug trade and from the sex slave market.
this is a strong statement, and should be called to the carpet. if i suggested this of the british or australian government, it would be demanded that i explain my position.

however, this is the funniest thing i will read all day:

"with Bush senior being its head for years"
bwahahahahahahahahaahah.

right, and barbara bush is the one who ties them up and checks the kids for lice and STDs.

If we are inclined to toss around rumor and unsubstantiated allegations, it bears noting that Dubai will be the new capital of the 'disposable' sex-toy child.

Anyone else hear that one?

PS - recent related thread : www.abovetopsecret.com...

Seized child porn videos 'worst ever seen' by AFP

www.news.com.au

A FORMER top lawyer, a serving police officer and a childcare worker are among 22 Australians arrested in an investigation into horrific child porn videos.

...Most of the abused children came from eastern Europe and North and South America.
Information from Brazilian police indicated that 200 men from more than 70 countries were trading the material through a peer-to-peer network.

Note: "...Most of the abused children came from eastern Europe and North and South America."

Originally posted by Tynee

id like to see sources that would lead one to believe "very strongly" that the CIA makes $ from the illegal drug trade and from the sex slave market.
this is a strong statement, and should be called to the carpet.

I'll try this one:

CIA involved in drug trade:
Dark Alliance - the story of how the CIA worked with the Contras to import coc aine into the US and use the profits to buy weapons to fight the Sandanistas
The Politics of Heroin: CIA Complicity In the Global Drug Trade by Alfred W. McCoy - Thesis: Following the effective suppression of the heroin trade in America during World War II and the subsequent decision to stamp out opium growing by Turkey — which had been one of the main sources of raw opium — organized crime in both America and Europe collaborated in a wide-ranging conspiracy to establish new centers of opium production, heroin refining and distribution in Southeast Asia; these collaborations were greatly facilitated by the Central Intelligence Agency and by the unstable political situation created by the ongoing Vietnam War.

CIA involved in sex trade:
Illuminati Sex Slaves - brainwashing, depravity, MKUltra and the White House
Franklin Coverup - this story actually hit the MSM before quickly disappearing
The Smearing of Ted Gunderson - a former FBI agent turned private investigator who investigated the Franklin Coverup
Conspiracy of Silence - a documentary set to air on The Discovery Channel in 1994 but pulled at the last minute

I think that is quite a bit of evidence right there and you can believe that it's all not true if you want. But I think a reasonable person can safely believe that there is some truth there.


[edit on 11-12-2008 by TheComte] - vid already posted

[edit on 11-12-2008 by TheComte]

reply to post by TheComte


Thank you for posting that. Many people haven't seen this material and hopefully it will give some a notion of what the fuss is about.

I am so glad to see more people here responding to this and posting links, etc.

I feel this is one of the least talked about conspiracy theories....and I think it needs to be brought up in the open just like the UFO phenomenon (as an example). Unfortunately I think it is an unrealistic expectation due to all those in "power" who wish to keep this hidden But we must keep trying!!

reply to post by TheComte

Conspiracy of Silence - a documentary set to air on The Discovery Channel in 1994 but pulled at the last minute

That doc is my favorite. The best out there that has tackled this issue of corruption. No wonder it didn't air, you watch it and immediately realize why people never wanted it to be seen and wanted all copies destroyed.

reply to post by HugmyRek


No offence taken.

i know this isn't a hoax.

if there's any hoax involved, it's that men and women were fooled into believing it was necessary because of a perverted notion that the dark is stronger than the light.

it's not true, even if there is short term benefit to the believer. if you KNEW there was no difference would you CHOOSE to walk in the light or the dark?

this is the most complicated piece to the puzzle.