Financial Times: "And Now for a World Government"

Financial Times: "And Now for a World Government"

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I have never believed that there is a secret United Nations plot to take over the US. I have never seen black helicopters hovering in the sky above Montana. But, for the first time in my life, I think the formation of some sort of world government is plausible.

A “world government” would involve much more than co-operation between nations. It would be an entity with state-like characteristics, backed by a body of laws. The European Union has already set up a continental government for 27 countries, which could be a model. The EU has a supreme court, a currency, thousands of pages of law, a large civil service and the ability to deploy military force.

So could the European model go global? There are three reasons for thinking that it might.

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First of all, apologies for not posting the FT link, but it requires registration (free but I haven't got the time right now)

This article asks the question about one world government and the chances of the european model being used.

There are many who believe this is already happening, behind closed doors and that it is only a matter of time beforeot becomes a reality - but this is the first time I have seen this mooted in a respectable publication.

The western world had seen a shift towards a more socialist way of thinking in the last few years - except the US - and that could now change as well.

The financial crisis has also attracted attention as a means of taking a step forwards towards this goal, as it could represent an opportunity for a single world bank, which in theory could be swiftly followed by more "trade area" agreements leading to political integration and from there a small step to a one world government.

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Well I am sure this thread will be full of doomsayers soon enough who see this as the end of the world.. but I say..

good... excellent.. one world government is exactly what we need. let the humanity unite

I'm looking forward to this. The future of our civilization has only two possiblities, extinct or evolve into a type one civilization. For the latter, we have to unite and get over the diversity of different nations and cultures.

And now let the NWO crowd step in.

Originally posted by Alphard
Well I am sure this thread will be full of doomsayers soon enough who see this as the end of the world.. but I say..

good... excellent.. one world government is exactly what we need. let the humanity unite

I'm sure this thread will be full of idealists spouting crap like this without considering the nature of the people taking control.

It will not, and I stress this, be a democracy.

Originally posted by The Last Man on Earth
I'm sure this thread will be full of idealists spouting crap like this without considering the nature of the people taking control.

It will not, and I stress this, be a democracy.

The people who set up the United states that so many of you idealize were also idealists. If it were not for idealists, their vision and work, we would all live under dictatorships.

Do not confuse the aim and the means. The aim is to have a global society and one world government - it is a totally different question if we allow this body to abuse its powers..

Now some people on this thread will be 'spouting crap like' this 'cannot be done' and 'it will never work'. Fine be scared. Its perfectly reasonable to be scared. It would be better however to just remain vigilant, and still move ahead... as the benefits that could be gained, are enormous.

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How do you know that a united world government wouldn't be a democracy?


Anyway it couldn't happen right now,The Middle East hates America and Europe, Africa is a mess, and The U.S. Russia and China will never give up their power.

Ah, the work of the "Lord" is finally being undone. The nations re-unite and the language barriers start to erode. We shall now have our tower to the stars and our sky boats and sky chariots!

Onward! Onward you confused human children of this giant flying ball!

Like alot of other people im all for a one world government,i just dont like the fact its not to help people and the greater good of mankind but to control and manipulate....

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How do you know that a united world government wouldn't be a democracy?

Here's one of many possible answers:

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Keep exploring ATS for 1,001 other answers.

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Take a look at the EU and see the effects of faceless, unelected beaurocrats who have nothing better to do than line their own pockets and think up stupid rules and regulations.

A one world government would be a jobs programme for those who are currently messing up the planet and the markets.

Originally posted by budski
Take a look at the EU and see the effects of faceless, unelected beaurocrats who have nothing better to do than line their own pockets and think up stupid rules and regulations.

A one world government would be a jobs programme for those who are currently messing up the planet and the markets.

And it is so much better to have 10 such groups of slightly smaller sizes that all make their own stupid rules and stupid regulations.. and go to war with each other?

Fact is that international corporations already transcend all borders. They are already the government above governments, playing each against the other, using the differences in legislation etc for profit.. and for more control. Unless the governments act as one, they are just divided and fall that much more easily.

International market IS the world government.. already. What we lack for now is the legislation to cover the same area.. and representation.

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Originally posted by Alphard
The people who set up the United states that so many of you idealize were also idealists. If it were not for idealists, their vision and work, we would all live under dictatorships.

I don't idealise the US. It is a nation created by the Free Masons to avoid the Bank of England from controlling the financial system of the American Colonies - to think it is based on ideals of freedom and justice is a farce, and you are a fool to believe it.

Originally posted by AlphardDo not confuse the aim and the means. The aim is to have a global society and one world government - it is a totally different question if we allow this body to abuse its powers..

And just how do you think you could stop them? For crying out loud, there will be only one military - you won't have anything to do other than shut up and sit down because that's what they'll tell you to do.

You are making a massive leap of faith that the Rothchilds and Rockerfellers et all are actually going to give a damn about you as they puppetteer this world government.

Originally posted by AlphardNow some people on this thread will be 'spouting crap like' this 'cannot be done' and 'it will never work'. Fine be scared.

No, I'm terrified it will work, and work so freaking well that Orwell will be hailed as the next messiah, the last of the prophets.

You honestly don't know what you're talking about.

Originally posted by AlphardIts perfectly reasonable to be scared. It would be better however to just remain vigilant, and still move ahead... as the benefits that could be gained, are enormous.

I see no benefits other than handing over every nation's soverienty so that the people of those countries now have even less say in the way their lives are run.

Remaining vigilant? When you've already got your head down and your arse in the air, keeping an eye out for lubricant is absolutely pointless.

You have convinced yourself, however, so nothing I will say will be listened to.

Originally posted by Alphard
Well I am sure this thread will be full of doomsayers soon enough who see this as the end of the world.. but I say..

good... excellent.. one world government is exactly what we need. let the humanity unite

we need air, water, food and shelter, we do not need a one world goverment.

If you get your one world goverment, who will be the role model?
The US who has just collapsed the world economy?
or maybe China, they have hard working people with no say.
or maybe the indonesian model with sweat shops where people work 14 hours a day and almost make enough to support a family.

your one world goverment will be an autocracy, one power with no more elections, the decisions will be made for you.

at least now we can live with the illusion of freedom, give us a one world goverment and you will have no more freedom.
The goverment decides only blonds haired blue eyed people can breed from now on, what are you going to do?

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I read your post and I agree with you, currently a international currency would be an abysmal failure, but my question is why couldn't a world government evolve? As globalization becomes evermore prevalent and and the worlds markets intertwine I don't see this being a problem.
I do think the a one world government is inevitable, it's just going to take a while, not that any one is in a huge rush anyway.

I guess there's no reason to point out that the Financial Times has been known to have representatives at the Bilderberg meetings......

Oh well.

Originally posted by munkey66

Originally posted by Alphard
Well I am sure this thread will be full of doomsayers soon enough who see this as the end of the world.. but I say..

good... excellent.. one world government is exactly what we need. let the humanity unite

we need air, water, food and shelter, we do not need a one world goverment.

If you get your one world goverment, who will be the role model?
The US who has just collapsed the world economy?
or maybe China, they have hard working people with no say.
or maybe the indonesian model with sweat shops where people work 14 hours a day and almost make enough to support a family.

your one world goverment will be an autocracy, one power with no more elections, the decisions will be made for you.

at least now we can live with the illusion of freedom, give us a one world goverment and you will have no more freedom.
The goverment decides only blonds haired blue eyed people can breed from now on, what are you going to do?

It would probably be a communist ideaology since that is *the* ideaology we should want to aim for...and that would clear up everything you just mentioned...a one world government would only come into place when humanity isnt as greedy and selfish,thats why communism has never been truely used..

Originally posted by The Last Man on Earth
I don't idealise the US. It is a nation created by the Free Masons to avoid the Bank of England from controlling the financial system of the American Colonies - to think it is based on ideals of freedom and justice is a farce, and you are a fool to believe it.

So you are saying that US is nothing more than a failed economical battleground? I admit.. I truly do believe that the people at the head of the American Revolution believed in freedom and liberty. I also seem to have a lot more faith in human spirit than you do.

I see no benefits other than handing over every nation's soverienty so that the people of those countries now have even less say in the way their lives are run.

Remaining vigilant? When you've already got your head down and your arse in the air, keeping an eye out for lubricant is absolutely pointless.

I have to admit, this really made me chuckle . You see NO benefits? Lets just abandon all the others and pick up one - elimination of war. Yes, there maybe be a couple of more pencil pushers around, but I take that instead of WW3 any day of the week.

You have convinced yourself, however, so nothing I will say will be listened to.

Yeah, I realize that we are fundamentally on different positions and neither of us will convince the other. However I wonder if you realize that what you are trying to stop... is unstoppable... It will happen sooner or later anyways... or humanity is gone. We have moved in this direction starting from the days we gathered in groups to hunt. And there is only one possible positive conclusion. Humanity wide cooperation.

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Hi. Yes, there is a certain logic and a seeming inevitability to all this.

But look at the reality. As has been pointed out, the current experiment, the EU, is corrupt to the core. The accountants have refused to sign the books for as many years as you care to remember. They don't change, they just keep lining their pockets. Government by the autocrats for the autocrats, you might say.

And then there's the EU Constitution. When various states refused to ratify it as it represented decreased accountability to voters in member states and ever greater centralization of power, the key players just said - openly - 'This won't stop the process, just delay it'. They've already decided what's good for us (what a joke) and they're going to get it through (-how benevolent of them).

They always love to fall back on the 'It's better than going to war with each other' rhetoric. It's utter tripe. If the EU had stayed as the European Economic Community, which is all the British people actually agreed to in the original referendum, it could have been both successful and popular. But the people were'nt told what the long-term goal was, were they? I wonder why.

If power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely, just wait till you have a one-world government.

You ain't seen nothin' yet.

But it will be good for you.

Especially the fact that no-one can rule the entire planet without an authoritarian stance on everything, personal liberties included.

If you want to welcome the NWO you might as well kiss good-bye to everything you hold dear right now.

So you can't see any benefits in there being no internatinal battles over land, resources, no tarrifs, so all regions goods would be readily available to all other regions. No wars, increased awareness of and correction of mistreatment of the 3rd world, combined efforts of all the world's leading minds to solve the problems that plague humanity. Cures for aids, Cancers, new propulsion systems, internationally built and maintained space and moon stations, no "foreign dependancy" on any resources, hopefully a worldwide movemnt towards more green tech.

Yeah, absolutely no benefits whatsoever.

Freedom is an illusion already, personally i'd rather have a few less freedoms and see humanity as a whole flourish than live in a world torn apart by wars over dirt and shiny rocks.