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Proof of ET? artifacts




Topic started on 20-1-2003 @ 03:24 PM by cassini


Reading UFO and books of the Graham Hancock type over the years, I`ve often read of artifacts that defy explaination because they seem to be man made but are found in a geological strata that defies the man made arguement. the article below seems to fit very nicely in to the ET category, whats anyone think, got any more examples of ?
(other than the plate reported in pravda recently)

"Grooved Sphere from South Africa, 2.8 Billion Years Old:
If extra-terrestrial beings do visit the Earth, they must have done so in the past also, and the question is raised: are there any indication of possible ancient visits by extra-terrestrial beings on Earth? The answer is, surpisingly: yes, there are"

www.chez.com...



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reply posted on 20-1-2003 @ 03:52 PM by ultra_phoenix


Well find Cassini.

Do you know if they find any other artifacts ?



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reply posted on 20-1-2003 @ 04:26 PM by cassini


Not yet I`m trying to find out more and have contacted someone I know in SA to help.

thought that the fact its 2.8 BILLION years old was especially interesting. I`ve seen thing like this before and all to often someone in the academic community does it down, you know "oh its a naturally occuring formation caused by..." and I can see their point eight times out of ten but this ones going in the FOR file until someone tells me otherwise,

I`ll post here when i have more



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reply posted on 21-1-2003 @ 04:17 PM by cassini


UP and anyone else still looking into the spheres but have dug up a few other things that are well interesting

paranormal.about.com...

paranormal.about.com...

500 MILLION OLD FOOTPRINTS DISCOVERED

What may be the oldest fossil footprint yet found was discovered in June of 1968 by William J. Meister, an amateur fossil collector.

This print is estimated to be around 300 to 600 MILLION years old

A sandaled shoe crushing a trilobite; is this proof that there were previous civilisations on earth, or visitors from another world?

Meister made this remarkable find during a rock and fossil hunting expedition to Antelope Spring, 43 miles west of Delta, Utah. He was accompanied by his wife and two daughters. The party had already discovered several small fossils of trilobites when Meister split open a two inch thick slab of rock with his hammer and discovered this outstanding print. The rock fell open "like a book", revealing

on one side the footprint of a human with trilobites right in the footprint itself. The other half of the rock slab showed an almost perfect mold of the footprint and fossils. Amazingly the human was wearing a sandal!

Trilobites were small marine invertebrates, the relatives of crabs and shrimps, that flourished for some 320 million years before becoming extinct 280 million years ago. Humans are currently thought to have emerged between 1 and 2 million years ago and to have started wearing well-shaped footwear for no more than a few thousand years.

The sandal that crushed a living trilobite was 10 1/2 inches long and 3 1/2 inches wide; the heel is indented slightly more than the sole, as a human shoe print would be. Meister took the rock to Melvin Cook, a professor of metallurgy at the University of Utah, who advised him to show the specimen to the university geologists. When Meister was unable to find a geologist willking to examine the print, he went to a local newspaper, The Deseret News. Before long, the find recieved national publicity.

On July 20, 1968, the Antelope Spring site was examined by Dr. Clifford Burdick, a consulting geologist from Tuscon, Arizona, who soon found the impression of a child's foot in a bed of shale. ``The impression", he said, ``was about six inches in length, with the toes spreading, as if the child had never yet worn shoes, which compress the toes. There does not appear to be much of an arch, and the big toe is not prominent." Dr. Burdick stated:

The rock chanced to fracture along the front of the toes before the fossil print was found. On a cross section the fabric of the rock stands out in fine laminations, or bedding planes. Where the toes pressed into the soft material, the laminations were bowed downward from the horizontal, indicating a weight that had been pressed into the mud.

In August of 1968 Mr. Dean Bitter, an educator in the Salt Lake City public schools system, claimed to have discovered two more prints of shoes or sandals in the Antelope Spring area. According to professor Cook, no trilobites were injured by these footfalls, but a small trilobite was found near the prints in the same rock, indicating the small sea creature and the sandaled wanderer might have been contemporaries.

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reply posted on 21-1-2003 @ 04:43 PM by ultra_phoenix


Great find Cassini.

I have heard about these artifacts ( old foot print, hand print...etc... ) Really strange.

What I especially like, that's the scientific community reaction. Not really a good one in fact.



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reply posted on 21-1-2003 @ 04:52 PM by Winston Smith



Originally posted by cassini

"Grooved Sphere from South Africa, 2.8 Billion Years Old:



If you investigate these objects further, I believe you will discover them to be a hoax (just as the discs discussed on this site).

The story of these spheres have been around for quite some time (if these are the ones I'm thinking of, and indeed they appear to be).



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reply posted on 21-1-2003 @ 05:05 PM by cassini


stinking so called respectable scientists

Winston I have done searches on this and found several scientific reports on the subject. However, I have yet to find one which reaches a FIRM conclusion on their authenticity. Most do raise questions but can not offer firm denial. I will keep questing in the meantime if you of a firm debunking I`d be most grateful.

I also find that most of those debunking these seem to have a taste for Graham Hancock and whilst he seems to go to far in his hypothesis, people who take such pleasure in trying to put down such interesting if slightly misguided ideas are as suspect as those claims they wish to debunk.

Keeping an open mind....

Ta

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reply posted on 21-1-2003 @ 09:46 PM by Ark-Angel


Wondering,

Zacharia Sitchim thought of those who came digging for Gold to use for saving them from radiation. Are these Ball Bearings from machines that perhaps were used to dig.

Michael :-)

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reply posted on 22-1-2003 @ 02:51 AM by cassini


Nice one Hippiedude:-) Had seen the stuff on Enterprise mission, but had n`t wanted to put them on because of the unfortunate pictures from star wars with them, it trivialises the issue.

They are however quite incredible, although I`m sure Dr Zahi Hawass would have something to say about them.



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reply posted on 22-1-2003 @ 11:33 AM by thehippiedude


www.julen.net...


[Edited on 31-1-2003 by thehippiedude]



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reply posted on 22-1-2003 @ 01:54 PM by Byrd


I'll argue for misinterpreation on the first set of fossils... and the fact that they're tied in with the "Creation Evidences Museum" (which has been known to fabricate evidence and not be able to tell a fossil from a concretion) enhances my belief.

I *believe* the "finger" is a snail shell.

The "footprint" probably isn't, unless human beings have feet so flat you can scrape them with a planing tool. Early hominids wouldn't have had a foot that was so long (compared to width.) Unless the human is walking like a chicken (or a big dino), there should be some rolling marks on the track instead of a flat impression as if something was lifted up, set down, and lifted up again.

The "sandal" should have showed some evidence of manufacturing, such as rope texture or cord texture.

The "handprint" is probably a phytosaur or a sauropod footprint:
www.emory.edu...


A rather good site, and not biased either way, that reviews footprint fossils is here:
perso.wanadoo.fr...



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reply posted on 22-1-2003 @ 02:16 PM by cassini


Byrd,cheers for the site, does seem to add a a deal of rationality to the agruments involved. With your point on rope or cord texture, it seems that when we are in age that materials become more complex it is possible that no such textures would be necessary for a print to be formed.

Your walking styles position also raises an intriguing question for me. Why do we consider ourselves the only ones to ever had sentience on this planet?
I believe that Sauropods have been mooted before as the most likely beings of similar potential mental dexterity and intelligence. There have been many 'geological ages' on this planet covering some Billions of years, if there were other sentient beings on the planet before us it is quite possible that the traces of these have been reabsorbed back in to the hot mantle under the crust, particulary the further you go back in time.



[Edited on 22-1-2003 by cassini]



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reply posted on 22-1-2003 @ 04:05 PM by cassini


Put the link in below to the museum site but the writing here raises one point which may or may not detract from the alien influence.

"When only partly embedded so that they can be seen on the surface, they are not all spheres, but some are also oblong in form."

The fact some are oblong seems to indicate that a more natural creation but given the complexity of machines and technology in general who could say?

klerksdorp.org...

One thing from this is that whatever they are they are not a hoax, whether they are natural or Et in origin they are genuine artifacts.



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reply posted on 23-1-2003 @ 11:45 AM by ultra_phoenix



Originally posted by cassini

One thing from this is that whatever they are they are not a hoax, whether they are natural or Et in origin they are genuine artifacts.



That's all we need to know if we want to move forward. THEY ARE NOT A HOAX.



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reply posted on 29-1-2003 @ 02:13 PM by jra


www.enterprisemission.com...

these are fake. have been proved to be so as well. there was some touching up of the photos in photoshop. if you actually went to the tomb they wouldn't look exactly like that. i don't rememeber where i saw the links about that. i'll check later.



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reply posted on 30-1-2003 @ 04:46 AM by cassini


jra, I think that those pics are too good to be true, I reckon someone with too much time and a mind for trouble has been at them. be good if ya could dig out a link on it.



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