Hey Mate,
Your science is rough, however I'm starting to be some what drawn towards your methods of gathering pre-evidential reports.

Anyway, I have watched your past three threads and whilst, I believe the whole "Web Crystal ball machine"is dubious, I do not doubt that there is a collective consciousness and if this should be the case, well why not the Web to be this medium... (hey, Bees have being doing this for Millennium)

I shall certainly wait with baited breath for the period 10th - 15th Dec.

Good Luck and shall your horse carry two men.

As a veteran of several earthquakes,I've lived in So Calif my whole life,all I can say is if a big quake hits,and your indoors and your home hasn't been sesmically retrofitted,get out and stay away from large poles and utilitie lines,your home could be your coffin,the roof will probably collapse,make sure you know where to shut off your gas and electricityand yes in Calif most people have water supply first aid kit etc,it's not that we in Calif are desesitized,just a way of life here

WOW 7 pages, that was quite a read ....

The one thing that played on my mind whilst reading this thread - IF an Earthquake was to happen in the suggested area, does anyone know how many nuclear weapons are there? I'm talking about the underground bunker type defense weapons the U.S has dotted all over the country.

It would be interesting to know if indeed there are these types of installations in the suggested Earthquake zone, and more importantly, what that could mean IF a major quake was to strike.

This is very scary, I approve of this discussion. Absolutely in every way, you are doing the right thing. People need to be warned and comparing stories is possibly the very best way of going about to do just that.

Nothing strange in SC, I do notice that I haven't heard many birds though as I normally have. I live very close to a forest, right down the road and I'm accostumed to the chirping and the yelling of birds over my house. Silence has been the only greeting over the past week or so.

Peace to you all,
and I know I will, and you will take the proper precautions as well.

This has been predicted more than once now.

-CM

Originally posted by questioningall

In Maryland, we have Geese like crazy that are normally gone this time of year! we actually have more right now that we did in the summer!!!!


strange to hear everyone saying the animals and birds are non existent. They must have come up north to Pa because my wife and i were wondering if the birds are having a big party here. We even saw a Black squirrel here which is big because we look forward to our squirrels and can tell who's who. We have 6 regulars but today we got chipmunks, rabbits, a black squirrel, and birds out the wazoo! I live in the suburbs out side philly and besides birds and squirrels the rest of them are rare to see.


MARKLE Indiana — Five deer that wandered onto a highway overpass jumped to their deaths onto Interstate 69, one of them crashing through a tractor-trailer’s windshield, police said.
After the animals’ fatal plunge, their mangled carcasses littered the expressway “It’s the weirdest run I’ve ever had in 28 years The 20- to 30-foot fall killed all five deer.

We live in Idaho and the rooster has been crowing almost non-stop for two days. I am sure the neighbors will be complaining soon. The hens are acting like they are starving and refuse to lay. The ducks have been talking up a storm and are picking on each other. The goats won't shut up and they have been in the field and they just stare at the house and cry.

southeast corner of Michigan near Lake Erie.
The other day when I was out side finishing off the 'leaves' for the year, I noticed several small flocks of swans flying basically in circles over the area for several hours.
This year's Canada Goose migration was odd as well. It started very early.

Before Thanksgiving we have seen real strange wild animals behavior. My inside dogs don't move much
My birdfeeder is still full should have been empty by now. My cardinals are gone, found one dead on my deck it We had at least two pair maybe three of cardinals and haven't seen a one for over a month. One pare of blue jays, not seen. One day it was a deer the size of a small horse, another day it was a racoon, another day it was a coyote and on another day a bear cub. Confused is the right word. We dont go out everyday or at the same time everyday. These animals were all out in the middle of the day. The animals were confussed that is the right word now that I think about it. – N.C

I live in central Kentucky. I found a dead coyote in my backyard on Sunday. As far as I could tell, he had not been shot or hit by a car. I could see no injuries on him whatsoever. He appeared to be very healthy (thick fur, not skinny at all) before he died. I still don't know how he died. Maybe from exhaustion?

many Geese which usually fly south for the winter, and have been on the same track for many years kept flying back and forth for days. We lost track of which direction they finally went. – Missouri

Chicago checking in. I took a walk outside and there is not a bird or a squirrel to be seen. Not one. It's usually like Wild freaking Kingdom out there, and everytime I go out to smoke, there are a number of squirrels and birds, including my buddy, the Big Black Squirrel, who is especially fearless.


I live approximately 50 miles due north of Indianapolis, and for the last 7 years, I feed regularly 17 adult raccoons on average and during early summer I feed the babies. I have been heart broken for the past 3 weeks. I have not seen any raccoons, possums, rabbits. Not one. Their food bowls have remained untouched A friend of mine drives a truck daily to Georgetown, KY, and last week 2 days in a row, near Dry Ridge, KY, he had a redtail hawk hit his windshield so he was extremely upset. I too have increased cardinals, blue-jays, and a bird that never visited my feeders till now is, the eastern bluebird. My deer population has been nil. I have not seen them in their normal routes around my home or I have not seen their tracks. I thought I would add to this thread because we had an earthquake in April of this year with aftershocks, and I had noticed unusual animal behavior before this occurred and did not associate this with an earthquake, also around Indianapolis in April I believe, they had a small lake dry up if I'm not mistaken, maybe someone from Indianapolis can remember this and verify..

I live in central Tennessee, and there have been some odd things with the birds here.
Two mornings in a row and there were literally hundreds of birds in my front yard. It looked like a scene out of that movie the birds.
I also live in out in the country so I see alot of livestock which are also behaving in odd manners. They are being restless, seeming irritated, and they are just acting odd in general.
Being around them everyday its just easy for me to tell, and hard to describe

I'm in the western tip of NC and remarked just yesterday on the large number of birds that are hangng out in the area. Even saw a flock of robins out in a snow-covered field yesterday evening. A bit odd for here at this time of the year.

I'm in Utah and I am also an insurance agent. I'm used to taking animal/vehicle accident claims, but yesterday a client called in and this weekend he hit a deer (antlers stuck in his bumper for a minute and everything) and the deer just got right back up and kept running.
On thanksgiving my husband and I were commenting about the large influx of birds in our area - we saw literally 1000s (there are usually some birds in the area but nowhere near these numbers).

Check in from Southeast, Tn here. 5 hours east of the new Madrid. The dogs in my neighborhood have been barking incessantly for the last month, all day and all night. I hardly ever see any birds in the sky, let alone chirping.

My sister who lives in Keota Ok. right by the border of Arkansas, saw this morning a whole bunch of groups/flocks of birds. She said it was like 5 differant bunches or flocks of black birds outside of Pocola, Ok that is right by the border of Arkansas. Enough birds to fill a few fields. My sisters husband said that they would be flying south/southwest

[edit on 7-12-2008 by questioningall]

Just to clear up one thing here.... This Maryland thing about the geese is just false flag I'm in the D.C. Maryland area and the reason they (the geese) are staying is because is been fairly mild here...? There not acting strange... I do think animals can sense dangers like natural events but I believe alot of people in here are feeding into this because your asking them to watch for things they would never watch for on a daily basis and they are seeing things that are the norm but they never payed any mind just becuase they were busy with their daily lives. This is a good idea in theory but again we are going right down the dooms day chapters road and were starting a buncha crap that will make ATS look like were a buncha people who are not serious.

You have done a nice job of compiling stories here recently.

However, I have been watching and noteing animal behavior around here for years. I live around the Kansas City area, and often camp in mid-Missouri and southern Missouri. The odd animal behavior began about 3 years ago. Especially in the spring and fall. Bears have been migrating north, and cougars have been moving in and north. That creates a type of chaos for the other animals here as you can imagine. As for the birds, they follow pressure changes. The lovely, little rodents, I am afraid have been harmed by the odd spring weather changes we have had.

Animals are also keen to the feelings of those around them. Take a good look at society right now. Most people are feeling a crunch. A lot of animals are being moved out of the woods because people are moving in. Hungery upset depressed people.

Now, I dont doubt that we will have another quake here sometime. Around here, we were all taught about it in school. That and the areas around here that are expected strike zones for a nuclear war, what to do etc. What are now called tornado sirens were not actually put in for a tornado alert system. They are air raid sirens put in during the cold war times. All along Missouri, from north to south are areas we were all taught that even though it looks like nothing, they are actually missile launchers. There are quite a few millitary planes that we do not notice that drive dogs crazy because of the sound they put off being different than anything else. A lot of the areas mentioned by people who are having dogs whinneing and looking up at the sky are are areas that are most likely haveing planes fly over. You have the 101st airborne division on the Kentucky Tennessee border. Whiteman (where the stealth and some other very cool planes) is in MidMissouri, their flypath is all over the central US. The Airforce base in New Mexico has had a lot of (what the bystanders in the area call..) spy planes taking off along with other "very cool" aircraft. We have had Russian warships in the Carribean and they just went through the Panama canal either Thursday or Friday docking at our old navy base there.

So long story short there are a lot of things going on now that would cause what you have been seeing.

You can search for yourself though if you are interested enough, and see that every fall there is a thread over in Fragile earth talking about everything you see here.

Excellent job on your thread OP.

Because of the warning signs I have since covered the antique china in a bunch of cloth naptkins, hope it helps. Today I will refill and freshen all of my 5 gal containers for storage.

I have to say that prior to most major quakes I get very sleepy, and feel a shaking sensation on my lower extremities. For the past few nights as I lay down to bed, I get the same quaking sensation in my upper extremities. I was actually stretched out and had a visualization of my body being the United States, the past quakes I have precoged were in California,(I freaked out from sleep one time at 3 in the afternoon, knowing there had been an earthquake in Cal. This was in about 1993ish, I called my Grandma frantic warning her of an earthquake and to be careful, that night at 3am it struck her in Huntington beach, she sprang up and broke her toe on the dresser) the quaking feeling being in my upper torso would mean a quake in the mid to upper midwest region.

I am normally a night owl and my hours have been TOTALLy turned around for the past 3 nights. Not only a complete turn around in my sleep habits but get this...

For the past 3 nights I have been waking at 2:30 am. Not just waking but wide awake. I step outside and I hear a low humming noise, a vibration more than a noise. I live in the country so it is dead silent normally.

Now this has happened 3 nights in a row. Very strange, and with all the sleep I am getting, I do not feel rested. I have much to be greatful for, stress levels are no more than usual, and for the most part my life is good. No extreme changes which should challenge me like this.

So again I come to your threads and add what I am feeling to the mix.

please read the following on what to do if you are riding out an earth quake. What is mentioned below was NOT taught to us as we were growing up. This comes from a man who was a rescuer in earth quake disasters.


EXTRACT FROM DOUG COPP'S ARTICLE ON THE: "TRIANGLE OF LIFE"

My name is Doug Copp. I am the Rescue Chief and Disaster Manager of the
American Rescue Team International (ARTI), the world's most experienced
rescue team. The information in this article will save lives in an earthquake.

I have crawled inside 875 collapsed buildings, worked with rescue teams
from 60 countries, founded rescue teams in several countries, and I am a
member of many rescue teams from many countries.

I was the United Nations expert in Disaster Mitigation for two years. I
have worked at every major disaster in the world since 1985, except for
simultaneous disasters.

The first building I ever crawled inside of was a school in Mexico City
during the 1985 earthquake. Every child was under its desk. Every child
was crushed to the thickness of their bones. They could have survived by
lying down next to their desks in the aisles. It was obscene, unnecessary and
I wondered why the children were not in the aisles. I didn't at the time
know that the children were told to hide under something.

Simply stated, when buildings collapse, the weight of the ceilings
falling upon the objects or furniture inside crushes these objects, leaving a
space or void next to them. This space is what I call the "triangle of life".
The larger the object, the stronger, the less it will compact. The less the
object compacts, the larger the void, the greater the probability that
the person who is using this void for safety will not be injured. The next
time you watch collapsed buildings, on television, count the "triangles" you
see formed. They are everywhere. It is the most common shape, you will see,
in a collapsed building.

TIPS FOR EARTHQUAKE SAFETY

1) Most everyone who simply "ducks and covers" WHEN BUILDINGS COLLAPSE are crushed to death. People who get under objects, like desks or cars, are crushed.

2) Cats, dogs and babies often naturally curl up in the fetal position.
You should too in an earthquake. It is a natural safety/survival instinct. You can survive in a smaller void. Get next to an object, next to a sofa, next to a large bulky object that will compress slightly but leave a void next to it.

3) Wooden buildings are the safest type of construction to be in during
an earthquake. Wood is flexible and moves with the force of the earthquake.
If the wooden building does collapse, large survival voids are created.
Also, the wooden building has less concentrated, crushing weight. Brick
buildings will break into individual bricks. Bricks will cause many injuries but
less squashed bodies than concrete slabs.

4) If you are in bed during the night and an earthquake occurs, simply
roll off the bed. A safe void will exist around the bed. Hotels can achieve a
much greater survival rate in earthquakes, simply by posting a sign on The back of the door of every room telling occupants to lie down on the floor, next to the bottom of the bed during an earthquake.

5) If an earthquake happens and you cannot easily escape by getting out
the door or window, then lie down and curl up in the fetal position next to
a sofa, or large chair.

6) Most everyone who gets under a doorway when buildings collapse is
killed. How? If you stand under a doorway and the doorjamb falls forward or
backward you will be crushed by the ceiling above. If the door jam falls sideways you will be cut in half by the doorway. In either case, you will be killed!

7) Never go to the stairs. The stairs have a different "moment of
frequency" (they swing separately from the main part of the building).
The stairs and remainder of the building continuously bump into each
other until structural failure of the stairs takes place. The people who get
on stairs before they fail are chopped up by the stair treads - horribly
mutilated. Even if the building doesn't collapse, stay away from the
stairs. The stairs are a likely part of the building to be damaged. Even if the
stairs are not collapsed by the earthquake, they may collapse later when
overloaded by fleeing people. They should always be checked for safety,
even when the rest of the building is not damaged.

8) Get Near the Outer Walls Of Buildings Or Outside Of Them If Possible
- It is much better to be near the outside of the building rather than
the interior. The farther inside you are from the outside perimeter of the
building the greater the probability that your escape route will be
blocked.

9) People inside of their vehicles are crushed when the road above falls
in an earthquake and crushes their vehicles; which is exactly what happened
with the slabs between the decks of the Nimitz Freeway. The victims of
the San Francisco earthquake all stayed inside of their vehicles. They were
all killed. They could have easily survived by getting out and sitting or
lying next to their vehicles. Everyone killed would have survived if they had
been able to get out of their cars and sit or lie next to them. All the
crushed cars had voids 3 feet high next to them, except for the cars that had
columns fall directly across them.

10) I discovered, while crawling inside of collapsed newspaper offices
and other offices with a lot of paper, that paper does not compact.
Large voids are found surrounding stacks of paper.

Spread the word and save someone's life... The Entire world is
experiencing natural calamities so be prepared!

you have to ask yourself though. If there was an earthquake like you states actually happens. Would yellow stones' volcano also go because of the earthquake.

Even if I think the webbot is a load of bunk, and that it couldn't predict itself out of a wet paper bag, I DO think a thread about prepardness is not a bad thing, so kudos to the OP for that. No, I don't think there will be any super-earthquake in 2 to 7 days. But it never hurts to be prepared for anything.

12/12/2008 23:32 my guess