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posted on Dec, 6 2008 @ 03:36 PM
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right this is just my opinion, basically everything on the net is fake about aliens and UFO's i just realized, the government for starters don't want us to know and when people start getting to the truth it's all covered up so why would the government let pictures and videos of aliens on the net be allowed, take you tube for example videos get deleted everyday so some of them videos must be a authentic video of an alien or something like that, so why would they just let a video be online... anyway this is my opinion it's not a fact it's just what i think i don't want everything to be fake I'm a strong believer but at the end of the day the government don't want us to know the truth. if blossom good child prediction was right don't you think that would be covered up... anyway what do you think?




posted on Dec, 6 2008 @ 03:39 PM
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huh?


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posted on Dec, 6 2008 @ 03:43 PM
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if i don't make it clear, the government would not allow proof of aliens on the internet it just would not be allowed why would they let everyone know the truth, what I'm trying to say is everything is fake about aliens on the inter not everything but picture evidence and videos the government will just get rid of it straight away if it was the real deal.



posted on Dec, 6 2008 @ 03:54 PM
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The government wouldn't need to remove it, they just need to get someone with a Ph.D in something to say its fake, mission completed.



posted on Dec, 6 2008 @ 03:57 PM
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The sheer scope of what you are implying strains credulity to the breaking point. There are too many places to post things besides youtube. And too many things posted for anyone to keep track of what might be real or not. So for you to say that everything related to aliens or UFOs on the internet to be false, because if it were true the government would have it removed, is ludicrous.

As an example. I could take a picture of a supposed UFO... and post in an almost limitless number of places... from the major hosting sites to private sites... no person or group has the ability to know what's posted where or how valid it is. Or do anything about it in all those places.



posted on Dec, 6 2008 @ 04:04 PM
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im not trying to prove it as a fact im just basing it on my opinion that's all, the government have the power to trace anything, if you had a picture that gets people's attention the government are going to be alarmed and get rid of it obviously, I'm not trying to say everything is fake I'm just showing my opinion that the fact that most of the authentic videos and photos are deleted either quickly or after time.... I'm sorry for getting people wound up it's just my opinion



posted on Dec, 6 2008 @ 04:21 PM
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At the present moment I'm swaying towards the idea that everything to do with extraterrestials is disinformation put out by the PTB to breed a fear of an attack from outer space. I believe that this is the next step up from terrorism.

I mean, think about. At the moment we are getting all this media everywhere dealing with aliens. I for one don't understand why this is happening. Am I reading into this too much or does it just seem weird to anyone why this is happening now


Anyway,bottom line is that I believe that UFO's are man made and that the NWO is going to create a false extraterrestial threat in order to weaponise space. It sounds crazy but this is just my opinion.



posted on Dec, 9 2008 @ 06:46 AM
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Originally posted by Barla Von
Anyway,bottom line is that I believe that UFO's are man made and that the NWO is going to create a false extraterrestial threat in order to weaponise space. It sounds crazy but this is just my opinion.

Well I don't think your idea sounds crazy at all but unfortunately there is a serious flaw with your argument.

If the PTB want to create a false alien threat then why have they been denying and ridiculing the subject for more then half a century? To me that doesn't make any sense at all.

Futhermore if all UFO's are man made then how do we explain the sightings from the time before we had airplanes ourselfes?




posted on Dec, 10 2008 @ 09:10 PM
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no one ever considers that TPTB would 'remove' the offender (friends and family included) and all traces of them. i would if i were in control. there would be no information, no whistle blowers, no nothing that would jepardise my mission. ever. i would have you taken out before i got the 'itch'. my inner circle would be just as ruthless.

and how much supposed information is out there? how many people have come forward?



posted on Dec, 10 2008 @ 09:15 PM
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Would it surprise you to know that much of the fake UFO stuff out here on the net IS from government derailment efforts to maintain the ridicule and bogus pattern?

Sure there are some very creative individuals out there doing some impressive fake work too. But rest assured, the number of them consisting of just everyday joe's and government created fakes would surprise you.

Dont ask for any evidence of this because I dont have it. I only know from those I used to work with in that very line of deception efforts 10 years ago.




Cheers!!!!



posted on Dec, 10 2008 @ 09:21 PM
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I think that some ufos are man made but that others are et. i think that is why we are building them, for protection. but hell, who really knows! hope i live to see the day we find out, if we ever do.



posted on Dec, 10 2008 @ 10:07 PM
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thats my point. all the information out there and all the people that have come forward, on both sides.
that wouldnt happen. ever. TPTB controlling the world would make sure.



posted on Dec, 10 2008 @ 10:11 PM
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Originally posted by Resinveins


As an example. I could take a picture of a supposed UFO... and post in an almost limitless number of places... from the major hosting sites to private sites... no person or group has the ability to know what's posted where or how valid it is. Or do anything about it in all those places.


Wouldnt it be easy just to track your isp traffic or history?

I mean if your suspect they can track your activity



posted on Dec, 10 2008 @ 10:19 PM
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Originally posted by optyk phyba
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thats my point. all the information out there and all the people that have come forward, on both sides.
that wouldnt happen. ever. TPTB controlling the world would make sure.


The problem goes byond controlling the info or tracking who's giving it out. The level of derailment can go so deep that it just doesnt limit itself to making someone on a forum uncredible to the rest of the forum. It can go so deep into the personal life of the one giving the info that their lives itself can be in danger, as well as others around them.

It depends on whats being said and what the information is about. And how much of it got out.

Cant verify any of it so I wont even attempt to try, most of it is so unbelievable by the avg person that it would in itself be self destructive. Thats how deep and how cleaver it all is. I could destroy my own validity and presence.




Cheers!!!!



posted on Dec, 10 2008 @ 10:48 PM
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If the PTB want to create a false alien threat then why have they been denying and ridiculing the subject for more then half a century? To me that doesn't make any sense at all.


Think about what you just wrote...

If the gov't wanted to hide something from the public, they would NOT support it; they would denounce it and ensure the public that they would never have anything to do with it...

All the while building, exploring, studying every aspect of UFO's with no accountability...

Hmmmm, sounds familiar, huh..? Or maybe not...






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posted on Dec, 10 2008 @ 10:49 PM
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the problem is the concept behind TPTB and who you think they are.
for arguments sake lets think of them as the 'illuminati', 'NWO', myself and the 'greys' and that they control ALL aspects of information (including the internet). my point remains the same. you will be 'removed' before i get the 'itch' (before i think you will betray me). there will be no information anywhere that hasnt been vetted by me. anyone talking about or alluding to evidence aliens, ufo's, etc would be wiped out completly before they ever got the chance. my inner circle (those who carry out my orders) would be just as ruthless if not more so.
no need for any disinfo caampaigns and you would be none the wiser.
this site (and others like it) would not exist. bottom line you will live in the ignorance that i provide for you and you will be happy for it.



posted on Dec, 10 2008 @ 10:50 PM
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Originally posted by JonathanNicholas
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huh?


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huh?! indeed.



posted on Dec, 10 2008 @ 10:59 PM
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Your forgetting one important thing however. In order to control information to the masses, you have to know what the masses are asking about first. There is no blanket masking of information, just the parts that get the most attention by those outside of the loop. Focused control. Its more effective than a blanket policy.




Cheers!!!!



posted on Dec, 10 2008 @ 11:14 PM
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The "government" doesn't not want you to know, however they do not want it to present a nationalistic weakness. They therefore keep it secrect to try to covertly understand what's really going on.

I'd say the government might introduce much disinfomation into the market place, but I really don't think they have too. As mankind goes they have over active imaginations, and their are many unrelated humans that would try to pass themselves off as aliens, conducties, witnesses, and a full spectrum for reasons that could only range from mental confusion to egotistical cravings for attention.

Only when you've realized the reality of the human adjenda can you see past the scores of false claims and misunderstandings of understandings to see what's going on.



posted on Dec, 10 2008 @ 11:21 PM
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my spooks would be everywhere. your friends and family may be one of them and they would have reported you before then. there is no question you could ask that wasnt vetted pre-hand. you would be born into it, not questioning what i didnt want you to know. those that did would be removed (all traces). you really would live in my world of ignorance.



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