Buyer's Remorse?

Buyer’s Remorse?

Bear with me…there is a point to all of this. In the interest of full disclosure, I will tell you that I voted for Mr. Barack Hussein Obama in this Presidential election. In the interest of honesty, I will tell you that I never thought I would vote for a Democrat in this Presidential election. In the interest of being true to myself, I will tell you that my vote didn’t make a difference…and this is because John McCain won the popular and electoral votes in my home state of Georgia. Where does this leave me? I am a man without representation and a man without any real leadership to look to…other than the representation and leadership I can offer myself. I liked the idea of Ron Paul, but he was completely marginalized as a "non-entity" by the press...as well as his own party. Neither the Demicans nor the Republicrats earned my vote...so I voted for the lesser of two evils (or the evil of two lessers). I don't regret my vote (not yet, anyways) but, this thread is not about me...it's about all of us.

I love my country. I love my people...and my people are those who call themselves “humans”. I reluctantly voted for Mr. Obama…not because I believe in what he says or what policies he wishes to enact…but mostly, out of spite for the Republican Party. I believe that Mr. Obama is, at his core, a Marxist socialist…someone who believes that Government is the answer to all of the world’s ills, and someone who believes that the individual is not responsible for their self, but has no personal responsibility…other than the responsibilities “bestowed” upon him by the current Government…whatever it may be that Government deems he shall be responsible for. My beliefs about Mr. Obama’s socialist views may be opinion, but that opinion is based upon Mr. Obama’s own words.

Mr. Obama wants to “spread the wealth around”, but why should anyone “spread around” any wealth that they have earned for themselves, through hard work and an investment of personal life-force? Income redistribution is the heart and soul of a socialist economy. It works like this: Person A earns more money than Person B, and that’s not fair because Person B can’t have what Person A has. In the interest of “fairness”, Person A must give up some of his earnings so that Person B is not left behind…and it doesn’t matter if Person B earns nothing…Person A has more than he “needs”, so it’s only fair that Person B gets some of Person A’s stuff because Person B doesn’t have enough stuff. Capitalism strives for equal opportunity, while socialism strives for equal results.

Does that sound fair to you?

I don’t have a lot of money…I live from one paycheck to the next. I work hard for the money I do earn, and I save what I can in order to prepare for a future where I don’t have to live from one paycheck to the next. I work hard and I sacrifice luxury for survival…and one day, I will surpass survival and arrive at comfortable. When that day comes, and I am comfortable, is it fair that some of my comfort be sacrificed by way of forcible seizure in order to give someone else the comfort that they didn’t sacrifice for? If you said yes, then you are a socialist…and you do not understand the meaning of “The American Dream”.

John McCain was a deeply flawed candidate. Sure, he is an honorable man based upon his experience as a prisoner of war…but that experience does not qualify him to hold the highest office on the planet. Mr. McCain was never a favorite choice of the majority of Republicans, and not my favorite choice either. Mr. McCain was positioned by many as being “George W. Bush’s Third Term”…and while I think this was an unfair aspersion, I understand the sentiment. Democrat or Republican, this country needs change…but the change offered by Barack H. Obama is not change that is good for America.

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Before this diatribe of mine goes any further, I must address the “sticky” issue of “race”…and this is because there will be many who read this and will want to say that my words are racially motivated, regardless of what my words are, because I don’t hold Mr. Obama in the highest regard possible. First of all, Barack H. Obama won the presidency…and because of that, we must ALL give him our full support in LEADING this country...and we MUST speak up when he is on the wrong side of an issue. A President who doesn’t have the people behind him is, in many ways, impotent…and an impotent President is not acceptable in this day and age with the threats facing humanity and the planet. I hope that Mr. Obama’s accomplishments as President will make me proud, and I hope that America will benefit from his Presidency. George W. Bush is one of the most reviled men in modern history…but say what you want, the United States has not been attacked on a large scale by Islamist terrorists since September 11, 2001…and G.W. Bush has had at least a little something to do with that. The man can’t speak well, and he may not come off as the brightest bulb in the pack…but he took the fight to the enemies of America, and believe it or not, that’s a good thing.

Regarding “race”, I am what you might call “Caucasian”. This automatically means that I am a racist, so anything I say here must be racist, regardless of my motivations in saying it…at least in the minds of some people. Let me assure you, I understand the true nature of reality, existence and being…and I know that “race” is only an illusion…an illusion of the physical world, and an illusion that has been used since the beginning of time to divide and conquer the nations of mankind. I also understand the sordid history of out great nation, and the fact that non-whites have suffered greatly in our past…due to the ignorance and ill-will of many disagreeable beings who have had power over others. There have been great sacrifices made, and many gains had regarding racial equality in recent history…and regardless of how you feel about racism existing in America today, I assure you, in no uncertain terms, that those who harbor racist views and tendencies (on both sides of the aisle) are being marginalized and shown to be outside of the mainstream of American beliefs and values. Racism is far from dead…but it is being relegated to the era of the past, and is viewed as extreme, unqualified ignorance of the lowest order by those who truly know what is…and what it is to Be.

Having said that, I must now point out the obvious. Barack Hussein Obama is not America’s first black President…he is America’s first bi-racial President (that we know of). Black Americans should (rightly so) feel proud that this man has been elected to the highest office in the land. 95% of black Americans voted for Mr. Obama, which translates into about 9%-10% of the total population. This means that a very large number of white Americans voted for a non-white candidate…and this fact alone goes to show how far we have come as a nation, regarding “race” relations. Policies and politics aside, Barack H. Obama’s election to the Presidency is a positive thing, and we should ALL feel proud that Americans of ALL “races” came together in a common goal…the goal of changing the “face” of American politics. Once again, this is a good thing and it goes to show that we are truly at a crossroads of history. My daughter is going to be at the Inauguration ceremony, and she will witness history…and at 11 years old, she has a long future ahead of her…a future that is uncertain, but hopeful.

The future is where my concern lies.

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Upon the mantle of “change”, our next President represents hope for a great many people. Because of this, I feel that it is imperative that we look at what changes may be in store for us…All of us. I would like for this thread to be a discussion of where we think Mr. Obama will lead this country. This thread is different from others in the sense that I would like for it to be a discussion of who we thought Mr. Obama was before the election, and who we think he is now that he’s won. The American media did a terrible job of vetting this candidate in the run-up to the election…and there are still many unanswered questions about him and his history…such as: a) the birth certificate issue b) his connections with domestic terrorists c) a self-admitted fondness for Marxist professors and, d) how he could attend the same church for 20+years and not know what was being said? Understand that with the church issue, my disagreement is not with Rev. Wright or his statements…but with Mr. Obama’s denial of knowledge of Rev. Wright’s controversial statements/views.

Let’s be grown-ups here…this thread is about assessment…we already
have a winner. I will respect your insight, even if you don’t respect mine…let’s not let this turn into a bitter partisan flame-fest.

Are we happy with our choice, or are we in for some buyer’s remorse?

Thank you in advance for your input.

--J



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I don't understand something.

You have all of these doubts about Senator Obama, yet you voted for him anyway. Sure you didn't like McCain, but you thought him to be a honorable man. You didn't post one thing about Senator Obama that you thought was a reason he was better suited to be the next President, other then the fact that he isn't Republican.

What policies of Obama's was it that made you vote for him over McCain?

Perhaps you should have considered voting for an Independent candidate.

Then maybe your remorse would be non-existant.

Not that it would have mattered much, as the game is rigged from the get go. If the MSM won't cover an Independent he/she has no chance. But as a matter of conscience, it's the cleaner way to go.

I think you are taking things too seriously at this point and thinking too much, Mr. Obama has not even been sworn in and he is stepping in attempting to show how he will be involved... at this juncture I am not sure that even if he had not won, wonder would the fiscal policy of McCain have taken us in a different direction, really the flaw was McCain presented no beef about his real fiscal goals or economic policy to try and get us out of the mess the last 8 years has gotten us and that is why he failed because he strictly chose to play old time Republican politics.

Even if McCain had won I do not believe he could as promised balance the budget in 4 years, because exponentially we can't even pay the interest on our debt right now so that promise was totally frivalous.

I am not saying either had strong policies but we had to choose what probably would be best for the country and the number one thing on people's minds now is not continuing the war and dumping billions per month there but what is facing us here at home with jobs, the economy and the overall infrastructure and welfare of states endangered by the mortgage and wall street calamity, McCain took no steps to appear qualified to make policy decisions or present feasible measures to counterract what we face fiscally.

I do not know if the McPalin ticket would have been the solution for what is ahead and I just could not imagine judging by McCain picking his VP what rabbits he would have pulled out of his hat for a cabinet, I just don't think he proved any good judgement whatsoever, before and during the campaign, at least in my opinion.

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I didn't vote for Obama or McCain as they are two sides of the same coin in my opinion but I was optimistic at first that Obama would actually bring change, a change for the better. I ignored most of the talk about him being a Muslim and all the other stuff and really wanted to give the guy a chance, and I still will but today I have non-buyers remorse.

I backed Obama with friends when they claimed he was a Muslim and said things like how do you know, what does it matter a President don't make the Nations religion or we'd all be Satanists like Bush. But I believed him and I believed that he was a Christian and that that played a part of his character.

OHHH the disappointment, here are the two biggest stories of Barack since his election in my opinion.

Barack misses Church to play basketball, OK I know so what and would agree if the second item didn't show up today.

Barack plans on making a major policy speech in an Islamic Nations Capital in the first 100 days, I posted a thread about it today with the NY times link.

This man argued for his Christianity and gave speeches in Germany and about Israel being our ally in the region and on and on and on. And what does he do before he even takes office and just days after it seems Pakistan has attacked India, another U.S. Ally. He announces he is going to an Islamic Nations Capital to give a policy speech.

I am very worried about Mr. Obama now, very worried indeed, can I get a refund? Recount? Something? Ah screw it, Costa Rica it shall be...

Originally posted by jd140
I don't understand something.

You have all of these doubts about Senator Obama, yet you voted for him anyway. Sure you didn't like McCain, but you thought him to be a honorable man. You didn't post one thing about Senator Obama that you thought was a reason he was better suited to be the next President, other then the fact that he isn't Republican.

What policies of Obama's was it that made you vote for him over McCain?

I never said that I ever thought Obama was better suited to be the next President...and my beef with the Republicans had more to do with how they made a nothing out of Ron Paul...and gave us McCain as a candidate, even though he was not the popular choice within their party.

Another thing that figured into the equation, Palin. I like her...she seems like an okay chick...but I can't see an "okay chick" as the first in a line of succession. Between O'biden & McPalin, the experienced senator made a difference in my thinking.

And, for the record...I was torn about this. I actually didn't decide to vote for Obama until I was looking at the voting screen. That's when I made up my mind.

Oh, and I am quite sure that Presidents aren't elected...they're selected. But, it's still good to let your voice be heard...someone hears you, even if they're not listening.

--J