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Topic started on 4-12-2008 @ 09:35 PM by rattan1

Law against disturbing eggs

www.news.com.au

The day after Prime Minister Gordon Brown's Government laid out its legislative agenda for the coming year, Liberal Democrat lawmaker Chris Huhne noted the stream of sometimes "completely bizarre" new offences it had created.

Since the Labour party took power in 1997 under then prime minister Tony Blair, it has created 3600 new criminal offences, Mr Huhne said - adding this was "massively complicating" the job of police and the criminal justice system.

"Some of these offences are completely bizarre - for example, the offence of causing a nuclear explosion,'' he said.

"The idea that anyone might cause a nuclear explosion without killing anybody, and therefore being subject to a possible charge of murder, is extremely far-fetched."

Other new offences include "wilfully pretending to be a barrister", "disturbing a pack of eggs when instructed not to by an authorised officer" and "offering for sale a game bird killed on a Sunday or Christmas day", he said.

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reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 09:35 PM by rattan1

Away from all the Doom and Gloom. I found this interesting article which some of you might find very funny. However, i find this quite dangerous the way such laws are being created in the UK. Who knows what they will come up with in the future that might have a great impact on the lives of people and the population will not even know that such laws are being passed. I wonder how many people know that these law existed or are going to be passed?

I think that the UK government has more important things to do rather than passing ridiculous laws such as those mentioned in the article.

www.news.com.au
(visit the link for the full news article)

reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 09:56 PM by ZindoDoone

Those types of laws here in the US are called 'Blue laws". They are archaic and usualy had a real reason when first applied but later on as the years passed they began to become useless and mostly unenforceable unless the officer wanted to be a prick. We actualy had a law here where I live that is was illegal to ride a horse facing backwards on a Sunday. In 1798 when it was first passed it was thought to be blasphemous to do it. Slowly they politicians every once in a while repeal such absurd laws just to make it look like the give a damn!!

Zindo

reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 09:57 PM by eldard

The Americans started this trend. Now the British, muddled with the inferiority of its current popular culture, will not be left behind.

A smile cracks across my face everytime I read news of economic doom and gloom centering on these two countries. Bring on poverty to these people! That'll knock some common sense back into them. Yeah!

reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 10:01 PM by Darthorious

On Maui there is an endangered sea turtle that currently only 10 exist.

Their eggs are guarded 24/7 by volunteers to try and keep the species alive.

There were 5 of these turtles total last year this year there was 10.

The egg thing pry has a similar origin

reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 10:20 PM by biomehanika

The Brits are going nuts.......I think the terrorists launched a bio attack on UK lawmakers causing them to become Nuts and there effectively creating a breakdown in law and order enabling them to take over the country. Next on the agenda Watching TV and Using public toilet will be an offense..... No seriously they must have better things to do.

reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 10:23 PM by Blaine91555

reply to post by ZindoDoone

In the 1980's I went to North Dakota to help a friend manage his office for a few weeks. The first Sunday there was my first opportunity to purchase things I needed like toothpaste and the like.

I go through a small grocery store and fill up a cart with food, razors, toothpaste and the like. I get to the counter and the young lady there starts pulling stuff out of my cart and saying you can not buy that. Not knowing I jokingly assured her that I was indeed well over legal age and could she please put those items back.

She looked at me like I was an idiot and got very nasty about how unlawful I was. It turned out that at that time in North Dakota on Sunday you could not buy many items in the stores. I could not buy razors or toothpaste or anything other than food. I went to work unshaved on Monday.

On Monday while shopping at lunch I went to a video store. Part of the store was walled off and they wanted ID to enter. I assumed it was adult videos until I got to looking around. It was any movie rated "R" and when you went in to get a movie the whole place stopped and stared at you like you were evil.

I ended up going to a meeting with a prospective customer at a local Hotel later in the week. He showed up but told me he had been thrown off the Board of Directors for impropriety. It turned out he had been caught on a lunch date with another Board Member. Both of them had lost their spouses to disease a few years prior and the Board ruled that them dating was obscene and inappropriate as they were both married. They refused to consider that both their mates were dead and had been for years.

Needless to say, Bismark, North Dakota at that time was caught in a time warp back in the 1,800's somewhere

All of the above is true and no this is not the Weekly World News

reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 10:28 PM by theindependentjournal

In Virginia it is still against the Law to hang mens and womens undergarments on the clothesline at the same time and in Minnesota there is still a law on the books that states ... Every male over 16 must have a sidearm when in public, just try it though and see how your holster gets their attention...

reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 10:35 PM by ZindoDoone

reply to post by Blaine91555

Yup, I'm originaly from Kansas. I moved to the Northeast when I was very young. I moved back in the 70's to learn about my family. When I first moved back I tried to get a drink at a local bar. When I was told of all the hoops I had to jump through I started laughing. The bar tender got pissed and called the cops. When I told them where I was living previously they didn't press charges but I was appalled at the logic of these laws. I wasn't kidding about the horse riding either. They repealed that law in 1997!!

Zindo

reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 10:46 PM by Shadowflux

If I may put a conspiratorial slant on this whole story, could it be that perhaps these seemingly ridiculous laws were created with the express purpose of arresting certain "suspects" that the authorities may otherwise not have a charge against?

Part of the reason for the increased domestic surveillance here in the US and over seas in the UK is, I believe, to eventually have something incriminating on every citizen. This way the populace is easier to control, because people will begin to fear imprisonment knowing the government owns a secret on them.

If you take these two things together it seems to make perfect sense. Some citizens are actually normal upstanding people and therefore the government can not hold anything over them. However, if said citizen is guilty of "disturbing a pack of eggs" then they too have a reason to fear the government and thus will obey whatever they are told to do.

I don't think it sounds too crazy.

reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 10:49 PM by biomehanika

reply to post by rattan1

Interesting one from the Article

"The idea that anyone might cause a nuclear explosion without killing anybody, and therefore being subject to a possible charge of murder, is extremely far-fetched."

Lets assume that the UK Government wants to test a Nuclear device by Exploding it, will they be charged for Murder?

reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 10:53 PM by ZindoDoone

Shadowflux,
Sounds very , very plausible to me. Its exactly the type of demonising that is rampant and very true. I see exacting truth in your 'Conspiracy"!
Once in the system, you are likly to be entrapped by the PTB!
Zindo

reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 11:00 PM by biomehanika

reply to post by Shadowflux

I think you are right on spot there..... Most of these laws are so stupid that most people will not pay attention to them and then one day they will enact something that will enable them to control all of us.

reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 11:07 PM by theindependentjournal

reply to post by Shadowflux

You may have hit it on the head my friend, just older versions of targeting laws to get one group or individual, except for the carrying a gun one...

Good point and I had never thought of them that way before, I always just figured it was some weird local stuff that got those laws passed. Most I assumed from whatever religion was dominant in the region but you make a very valid point I hadn't considered. Why should we assume that governments past were any less corrupt or power grabbing than the one we have today? Hell I bet Robert Byrd would know the answer, he was there when they passed many of them... LOL

S&F

reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 11:23 PM by rattan1

reply to post by Shadowflux

Very interesting theory there Shadowflux. I have to say that it is very much plausible. Many of us may think that these laws are stupid, but looking at it with your perspective this paints a very different story. These laws no matter how ridiculous they are do exist to serve a purpose and you may have highlighted it.

reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 11:26 PM by Shadowflux

Here is the most interesting point in the OP article:

Since the Labour party took power in 1997 under then prime minister Tony Blair, it has created 3600 new criminal offences,

Read it again, it says that these laws are new, they aren't remnants of some obscure legislation. That's 3600 new offenses in 11 years!

Think about it, all the surveillance, the phone tapping, the e-mail scanning, it's all just the new version of the old ECHELON System. They're simply listening to everyone and everything, storing it and saving it until it's needed. Every ticket, every fine, every DUI, every time you get hired or fired, everything about you and what you do will one day be in the databanks if it isn't already like that.

These laws are simply there to ensnare those that are decent law abiding citizens. These laws may seem ridiculous, but depending on the maximum penalty and legal severity, may just be enough to at least hold you for the maximum allowable time for whatever reason. A long list of said infractions could possibly be enough to obtain a search warrant or a judicial approval for monitoring and surveillance.

One day we will all be criminals, this, to me, seems to be just another step towards that inevitability.

reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 11:31 PM by ZindoDoone

Shadowflux,
I wonder what the PTB will think when we ALL bere that label of 'CRIMINAL' with pride as a badge of rebellion of the government? It will scare the living hel out of them!!
Zindo

reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 11:45 PM by Shadowflux

reply to post by ZindoDoone

Zindo,

As much as I would love to see a uniting of the masses against the corrupt oppressors I fear that history does not suggest such a scene. Much like a narcotics suspect will snitch on his "friends" when confronted with imprisonment and possibly physical harm I feel that many people will be all too willing to turn over their own friends and family given the right circumstances.

Take for instance East Germany and the Stasi. Suspects were targeted, tracked, spied on, arrested, tried, and sometimes executed in secret. However, the majority of Stasi informants and spies were friends, neighbors, even family members and spouses of the individual suspect. This created both paranoia and division among the populace because anyone could be reporting on anyone for any reason at any time. You never knew if you should come home and tell your wife what you did at work today or not. You didn't know if you could trust your friend enough to tell him you didn't approve of the government.

If this began to happen in the US or UK there would be no underground movement, no ATS, no dissenting opinions. People will obey they government lest they disappear in the middle of the night and are never heard of again.

reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 11:48 PM by rattan1

reply to post by Shadowflux

As you mentioned these are all new laws passed by Labour since in power. I wonder if there has been any such laws Passed under the Bush Administration?

reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 11:50 PM by ZindoDoone

Shadowflux,
The major differance in the East Germans and US citizensare that the Germans had no idea what freedon meant since 1917, We here know, and its not going to be as easy here as it was there. Keeping the populace ignorant will help the facists like it always has. They key is indoctrinating out children with the basics of freedom and its true principles and showing them how to ignore the propaganda they have to swallow by many in our schools. Its those that are our young still in the grasp of our government controlled school systems that must be reached. They are the way out of this or the way they will enslve the rest!

Zindo

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