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SCANDAL! Undercover video shows Planned Parenthood hiding rape of 13-year-old girl


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Topic started on 4-12-2008 @ 07:38 PM by jsobecky


This video shows a Planned Parenthood nurse helping a 13 year old girl hide a rape and shows her how to cross Indiana state lines to escape state laws and obtain an abortion.



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reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 08:02 PM by Clearskies


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This is not new or isolated.
I've heard of this kind of stuff since the mid-90's.



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reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 08:04 PM by GradyPhilpott


This is pretty much par for the course for Planned Parenthood.

It should be noted that the girl was a college student and she was not raped.

Because there was no actual crime, only an implied one, the nurse cannot be prosecuted.

This does strike me as odd, insofar as people are prosecuted for having illegal interactions with children on the internet, when in fact no children were involved.

I guess it varies from state to state.

[edit on 2008/12/4 by GradyPhilpott]



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reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 08:10 PM by prototism


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It's not about the rape in and of itself. It is not about legalities of "covering up". It is about the ethical principals (or lack thereof) of the employee in question.

So, this isn't so much about PP, as it is about that one particular worker.

[edit on 12/4/2008 by prototism]



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reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 08:16 PM by iceofspades


Hmm....well I'm kind of on the fence here. The girl was pretty clear that she didn't want anything to happen legally, and I feel that's her prerogative. The Planned Parenthood woman did have a legal obligation to report it, but I can't say I think she did anything wrong by not doing so.

And I wouldn't call this a "cover-up". That's just sensational.

I don't know...

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reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 08:42 PM by Jadette


And it's hard to be sympathetic when clearly this was all a setup, trying to 'get' something on planned parenthood anyway that they can.

Why is it that the same people who don't want the government in their lives, want to stick their noses into other people's lives?



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reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 11:41 PM by atoms.2008


planned barrenhood are

child abusers



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reply posted on 6-12-2008 @ 08:43 AM by jsobecky


The point that this video should bring out is, how much of this was an individual thing and how much of this goes on every single day in PPA clinics?

Are they skirting around notification laws by pretending not to see or hear something?

Are they truly interested in the woman's well-being, or are they just interested in getting another abortion performed?

What laws might they be breaking?

And finally, would you want them counseling your child?



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reply posted on 6-12-2008 @ 08:54 AM by thisguyrighthere


Originally posted by jsobecky
The point that this video should bring out is, how much of this was an individual thing and how much of this goes on every single day in PPA clinics?


I dont think you'll ever get an answer to that. Unless you can somehow get administration to admit it or maybe multiple versions of this 'sting' at PP's across the nation.

As it stands the evidence just shows one employee behaving illegally.

Whatever happened with the whole "will you accept a donation to abort black babies?" thing? Was that a PP policy or just one employee?

I think it takes a 'special' kind of person to make a living doing abortions which would make the entire industry a little suspect to me but that just my opinion.



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reply posted on 6-12-2008 @ 06:49 PM by Anonymous ATS


Ok. What do you mean with "help covering up a rape" ? Where is the rape? The definition of rape is
1. The crime of forcing another person to submit to sex acts, especially sexual intercourse.
2. The act of seizing and carrying off by force; abduction.

There was no force involved.



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reply posted on 6-12-2008 @ 06:58 PM by djpaec


(A)I didn't know planned parenthood was supposed to be the police.
(B)If the girl was actually 13, which she's not, where in the hell would her parents be in all of this.

This is just the tried and true gotcha journalism. Heck if she filled out some forms, falsifying them to keep up the 13 year old ruse, wouldn't that be breaking the law?

I agree it's pretty effed that the planned parenthood nurse would do that, but Bloomington Indiana is a fairly liberal accepting community. They have an anachist book store and plenty of other stuff like that.



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reply posted on 6-12-2008 @ 07:29 PM by bandaidctrl


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First of all, not all planned parenthood's are going around doing such things. I myself visited several, they were very good to me, and I felt very comfortable, no strange questions, nothing suspicious.

This is a case of a particular employee(s).

PP is not what it's being made out to be.



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reply posted on 6-12-2008 @ 07:45 PM by Benarius


It's all about harm reduction. The nurse acted in the girls intrest. The crime was commited already, you can't reverse that and that's not her job. She maybe should have asked the girl what is it she wanted and then help her. But to draw attention to her case would have been wrong. The girl is free to go to the police or tell her parents. If she feels old enough to have sex, she'd be old enough to make that deciscion. She decided to take this course. And in this case it's all a setup. I wonder what a 13 year old would realy do? Talk to somebody she knows first? But surely not run to a perfect stranger working for public departement. This is a poor case of a set-up. The criminals here are clearly just attention seeking film producers out of college.

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reply posted on 6-12-2008 @ 11:05 PM by UScitizen


Originally posted by Jadette
And it's hard to be sympathetic when clearly this was all a setup, trying to 'get' something on planned parenthood anyway that they can.

Why is it that the same people who don't want the government in their lives, want to stick their noses into other people's lives?




I totally agree these are the same people who complain about they want small government but then turn around and want the government to tell people how to live their lives and make their decisions for them and their family.



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reply posted on 7-12-2008 @ 01:10 AM by jsobecky


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Originally posted by UScitizen
Originally posted by Jadette
And it's hard to be sympathetic when clearly this was all a setup, trying to 'get' something on planned parenthood anyway that they can.

Why is it that the same people who don't want the government in their lives, want to stick their noses into other people's lives?




I totally agree these are the same people who complain about they want small government but then turn around and want the government to tell people how to live their lives and make their decisions for them and their family.


Which is why I am against the Freedom Of Choice Act. It does away with parental notification.

If that's not big brother sticking their nose where it doesn't belong, I don't know what is.



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reply posted on 8-12-2008 @ 12:00 PM by saint4God


Planned Parenthood states they want to act in the best interest of the person who visits them, however it also appears to be a blatant disregard for the law. Perhaps it would be best to at least explain to these youths the illegal condition that they are in and coach them to change towards legal status prior to providing advice/assistance.



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reply posted on 8-12-2008 @ 12:21 PM by Benevolent Heretic


Remember, this is NOT a 13-year-old girl and there WAS NO RAPE!

Great article!

FOX news report

Originally posted by Jadette
Why is it that the same people who don't want the government in their lives, want to stick their noses into other people's lives?



Excellent question! Bravo!

Originally posted by jsobecky
Are they truly interested in the woman's well-being, or are they just interested in getting another abortion performed?


Yeah, cause they make millions of dollars from abortions!


And finally, would you want them counseling your child?


If my child didn't feel she could come to me, you damn bet'cha I'd want someone who cares about her helping her out to get what she wanted safely. It's someplace young women can go and be heard.

There's a big difference between right and wrong and legal and illegal.

It happens that 13-year-old girls get pregnant and can't/won't tell their parents for fear of retribution. They need SOMEWHERE to go. They go to Planned Parenthood. If PP were to call Child Protective Services and their parents, there would be NO place for these girls to go.

If a person is old enough to get pregnant, she's old enough to decide whether or not she wants to keep it.



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reply posted on 8-12-2008 @ 01:07 PM by saint4God


I hadn't realized this hadn't been covered yet, it helps to study in print:


Planned Parenthood Caught Covering Up Statutory Rape

In 2005 a Cincinnati, a Planned Parenthood clinic was sued for failing to report the rape of a 14-year-old girl. The same clinic was sued again two years later for failing to report a case of incest.

The staffer acknowledged this was a case of statutory rape but made her an appointment to get birth control and failed to report the crime.


More at the link www.foxnews.com , just highlighting these.



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reply posted on 8-12-2008 @ 01:47 PM by chickenshoes


Originally posted by jsobecky
The point that this video should bring out is, how much of this was an individual thing and how much of this goes on every single day in PPA clinics?

Are they skirting around notification laws by pretending not to see or hear something?

Are they truly interested in the woman's well-being, or are they just interested in getting another abortion performed?

What laws might they be breaking?

And finally, would you want them counseling your child?


Well, considering that out of services provided by PP, abortion only makes up about 3%, I highly doubt that she was just "interested in getting another abortion performed".

I got the impression that, given the fact that there was nothing that happened that was against anyones will, according to the girl, the nurse was only trying to do what would be in her best interest.

Being forced to have a child at the age of 13 is not in any young woman's best interest, imo.

Hopefully, my daughter will trust me enough to come to me and tell me if something like this would ever happen to her, but some kids can't talk to their parents. I would not have ever been able to go to my parents if I had ever gotten pregnant as a teen.

I have only experienced PP as a neutral place to go, where your right to either end a pregnancy or continue it is respected, either way. I would feel very comfortable with my daughter being counseled by their staff.



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