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reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 07:34 PM by MCoG1980
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I would think it would be ignorant to say that ALL people who believe they have been alien abductees are mentally ill, even if they do have TLE, the medical world do not yet know enough about it for your argument to be plausable. The jury on that one is still very much outthere, personally speaking, i think TLE could even be a gift of sorts.

[edit on 4-12-2008 by MCoG1980]


reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 08:08 PM by redled
reply to post by mellisamouse



Good and honest post. I think you need to refer back to where I qualified with 'Temporal Lobe Epilepsy.' These people 'experience' things, sh1 their pants and go mad about it. Actually, one of the most successful people of all time, JC, same century what you're thinking, but Julius Caesar suffered from it. I think most 'experiencers' suffer from that or other neurological differences.



reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 09:08 PM by optyk phyba
reply to post by mellisamouse



sane = belife in what is real.
insane = belife that fantasy is real.

roswell / dulce / ratcliffe / alien abduction / god / etc = fantasy
ufo = natural / human events not currently explainable by you
moon landing / gov black op projects = real


reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 09:30 PM by aleon1018
Abductees aren't: INANE

There's no doubt that some people do suffer from some amount of trauma from either having been abducted or just believing they had. Hypnosis may or may not bring out the truth. Maybe even a polygraph might be useful as well. Although, I wonder how many delusional people pass polygraphs? That would be an interesting show of statistics.

I've seen and recalled many questionable events that go way beyond abductions. Some of them would even get labeled as the Truman show syndrome.

When I was in outpatient therapy (oops) there was a few people there packing with badges. I even recall seeing Drew Peterson outside.

Was it all BS and delusions? Unless you were there, you don't really know.

And yeah, some of us aren't "all there" when it comes to memories of these events. It's all fun and games for some of you that think your own world is just how you perceive it. Many may not even realize they or their relatives have at one time or another been abducted and or manipulated(by unknowns)

Is it really just for your own entertainment to poke fun at others on conspiracy sites who are looking for answers? It sure beats wearing signs that the end is coming....in 2012.

There are threads on mind control experiments such as Mkultra. I suppose to some this sounds more realistic and closer to home. But just as traumatizing for the lab rat or abductee.

My therapist has an attitude when I try to discuss these past events. As if, I'm making him look bad in their idea of psychotherapy by changing the subject instead of being more "present" I guess that's fine for awhile, but not for the rest of my life. Besides, he's a christian counselor and he's fine with quoting scripture which I find really annoying.

With the change in economics, I find it really hard to keep seeing this guy every month. Besides, I feel like I'm in group therapy here anyway for the price of the internet with all of you wonderfully sane people.


reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 09:45 PM by mellisamouse
Originally posted by optyk phyba
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post by mellisamouse



sane = belife in what is real.
insane = belife that fantasy is real.

roswell / dulce / ratcliffe / alien abduction / god / etc = fantasy
ufo = natural / human events not currently explainable by you
moon landing / gov black op projects = real


So I am ust supposed to not believe that when I was missing in -40 weather, and half the frigging town was in a panic looking for me, and my footprints in the snow ended by a fence apparently, and then I showed up on the other side of town, knocked on someone door and told them to call the police to pick me up because I thought I was lost for maby 10 minutes, and was STARTING....STARTING to get cold, NOT cold YET, but missing long enough for them to be searching and trying to figure out what happened.

It was the POLICE that told me wher my foot prints ended, and where they started again etc... NOT me, I was clueless about that stuff until THEY told, ME, not the other way around.......I got back to the house and had 10 people yelling at me and each other trying to figure out what happened etc.........

yeah, all that time in -40 weather, yet not a chill, not a sniffle....yeah, me and the police and all the peole that were looking for me were sharing a group delusion I guess.

I will just pretend that was a fantasy that never happened.....I better go tell them to burn those police reports too, they don't want any imaginary papers at their station.


reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 10:09 PM by optyk phyba
reply to post by mellisamouse



thats not an alien abduction and you are not the only person to have suffered a fugal episode.

fugue - A pathological amnesiac condition during which one is apparently conscious of one's actions but has no recollection of them after returning to a normal state.


reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 10:27 PM by mellisamouse
Originally posted by optyk phyba
reply to
post by mellisamouse



thats not an alien abduction and you are not the only person to have suffered a fugal episode.

fugue - A pathological amnesiac condition during which one is apparently conscious of one's actions but has no recollection of them after returning to a normal state.


So do peoples foot steps just end, IN THE SNOW, in one spot, by a field, and then end up halfway across town, do these people suddenly float wayyyy down the road so their footsteps are untraceable for an apparent distance? Do the police make such a big deal about it that THEY are the ones thinking it was an abduction of some kind??? The police saw where my footsteps ended, and where thye suddenly "appeared" again, NOT me.

Do these people go missing in -40 weather, yet don't even catch a chill????

Now that sounds irrational to me.



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reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 10:41 PM by Mozzy
reply to post by mellisamouse



well some proof would be nice, scan up some police reports about that and then we'll judge your insanity level.

i think it's a good point to make comparing the pope to abductees. we really only need to look at the outcomes to come to a conclusion.

pope = super rich
abductees = attention hounds

both are getting what they want out of their relationship with the supernatural. both seem completely normal. if however, you believed (were) you were abducted by aliens and you then went and sold your house and left your wife and started some sort of society based on your newfound knowledge that would present a different situation wouldn't it?


reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 10:50 PM by mellisamouse
Originally posted by Mozzy
reply to
post by mellisamouse





pope = super rich
abductees = attention hounds



wow, I am not an attention hound....geeze. I have barley talked about it my entire life. Just though this would be a good place to actually finally talk about it, but I can see why everyone else seems to keep quiet......relentless negative opposition, that is just as irrational and unprovable as the peope they are opposing....

NOT to say that YES, maybe some people DO make it up....some people mabey really ARE attention hounds.......this is just about as mute as religion discussions.

Now I kinda want some damn proof too, but I just don't have any of my own to offer.... I just know I am a completely sain, normal, reasonable person.....

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