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posted on Dec, 4 2008 @ 06:48 PM
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…SHOULD BE ILLEGAL!!

I would like to know out of simple curiosity, what you think about porn being made illegal, and do you think if enough people were to push the agenda could it be done? I've done my homework, and I know that there are people who are trying and the chances are slim to none, BUT...

--- I am talking about your opinion. ---

Would you want it to be illegal?

Do you think it does any harm?


I am talking about your opinion.

My Opinion:
I believe that porn is partiallyresponsible for all sex crimes against women and children. Yes, that is a broad statement, but I really believe that it is true; somewhere along the line it MUST have had an impact that started an addiction toward abnormal behavior/desires.

The flame that started the fire.

That goes without mentioning the damage it does to the female image as well. Most men, even if they are not a sex offender, treat women like sex objects. I believe that could be a reason we have so much domestic violence.

For the longest time I have wanted to interview sex offenders just so I could ask their views on the subject. Like…

“How much influence did pornography have in making you into the person you have become?”

“Do you believe that if it were not as easily accessible as it is that you may have made different choices?”


So what do you think?



[edit on 4-12-2008 by apaulo]




posted on Dec, 4 2008 @ 07:17 PM
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i think the reason i believe women are "Sexual objects" is because after dealing with enough of them you learn that sex is pretty much all they are good for.



posted on Dec, 4 2008 @ 07:44 PM
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Pornography depicting mature consenting adults will never be illegal. I doubt any amount of people could push anything that could silence or get rid of pornography altogether. I've heard many cases of similar types of ideas being brought up and proposed, and it always comes back down to (in the U.S) freedom of speech and expression, and how pornography is covered by that.

As for pornography being responsible for all sex crimes against women and children, that is quite an outlandish claim. Sexual crimes against women and children have been around far befor there were any magazines, DVD, VHS tapes, or movies on your television and computer to fuel or influence such a crime. There will always be people with unhealthy sexual desires, passions, and thoughts, possibly stemming from a mental disorder(s) or diluted fantasies in which the person craves for it to become a reality.

Damage done to women? What about damage done to men? The same could be said about men. Women treat men as sex objects also, it's a two-way street. Domestic violence also works both ways, I believe alcohol and drugs play a much greater part in that than pornography does.

There is no doubt in my mind that there are many taboo topics in pornography, one of them depicting women over the age of 18 playing a much younger age role. I believe there are many people out there who see these kind of videos and cannot distinguish between whats real and whats fantasy. But, I'll assume those people already have something wrong with them to begin with.



posted on Dec, 4 2008 @ 07:44 PM
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So there was never any sexual abuse or domestic violence before porn came along?



posted on Dec, 4 2008 @ 08:26 PM
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Originally posted by apaulo
That goes without mentioning the damage it does to the female image as well.

Most men, even if they are not a sex offender, treat women like sex objects. I believe that could be a reason we have so much domestic violence.


1. People fail to realize that porn is all smoke and mirrors. True enough the sex in itself is 100% real, but the events leading up to the sex as well as the actors and actresses' behaviors are all exaggerated.

I remember in this one scene I saw (mods I'm explaining this scence ONLY to illustrate my point above, not to be funny or gross) this lady had walked on set. She got talked to by the camera man for awhile then some guy showed up on the set, and pulled out his member. Her eyes widened and she shouted "OMG it's huge". I don't think I'm gonna be able to handle this..I'm leaving etc etc." Then outta the blue her whole attituide changes and she utters "But I'm such a dirty slut..so I think I'll go ahead and let him..blank me."

First of all, that woman was NOT gonna leave and she already knew that that guy had a large member. The whole "OMG I'm leaving deal" was just to keep the audience interested. Actors and actresses agree before the scene even starts to what they're gonna say, how they're gonna act, what type of sexual acts they will be getting involved in etc etc

Second, she's NOT a dirty slut. She gets paid to portray one on camera. It comes with the territory of her job. She shows up, acts like a whore, has sex, gets paid for it, then goes home.



2. I can almost gurantee you that 90% of women that get treated like sex objects let their men treat them like that.



posted on Dec, 4 2008 @ 09:08 PM
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What would we do if you banned porn ???

He doesn't even look sexy anymore.....





posted on Dec, 4 2008 @ 09:54 PM
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reply to post by Forest
 



My Opinion:
I believe that porn is responsible for all sex crimes against women and children. Yes, that is a broad statement, but I really believe that it is true; somewhere along the line it MUST have had an impact that started. an addiction toward abnormal behavior/desires.

The flame that started the fire.



Originally posted by Forest
As for pornography being responsible for all sex crimes against women and children, that is quite an outlandish claim. Sexual crimes against women and children have been around far befor there were any magazines, DVD, VHS tapes, or movies on your television and computer to fuel or influence such a crime. There will always be people with unhealthy sexual desires, passions, and thoughts, possibly stemming from a mental disorder(s) or diluted fantasies in which the person craves for it to become a reality.


Sometimes I think people say things just to stir up emotions, I know I do, and I think that is what you are doing here. Did you actually read what I said?


“The flame that started the fire?”;

“somewhere along the line it MUST have had an impact.”

THAT is “outlandish”???


Damage done to women? What about damage done to men? The same could be said about men. Women treat men as sex objects also, it's a two-way street. Domestic violence also works both ways,


Yes, I totally agree.


I believe alcohol and drugs play a much greater part in that than pornography does


Porn, alcohol, drugs… you put them in the same category, except drugs are illegal and some are given only by prescription. Which leads me to a great idea…

Porn should only be prescribed to men with erectile dysfunction!



posted on Dec, 4 2008 @ 09:59 PM
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Originally posted by Mike_A
So there was never any sexual abuse or domestic violence before porn came along?


No, there was not. Duh.



posted on Dec, 4 2008 @ 10:07 PM
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Thanks for the good laugh! That was great!




But as for the subject matter, I'm beginning to think that...

everybody either has erectile dysfunction, or

they just really love porn too much to admit that it does any harm.



posted on Dec, 4 2008 @ 11:52 PM
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The minute you make something illegal is the minute everyone wants to have it and it becomes more of a problem than you started with.
Ban it? Good luck.
Better chance of educating the public to the fact that it IS smoke and mirrors, and should NEVER be depicted as a real life situation between adults.



posted on Dec, 5 2008 @ 12:10 AM
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I would much rather have some hornball sitting at home taking out his sexual aggression on his IMAC and Herman the one eyed German... than to be out walking the streets hard up, pissed off and looking to take out his frustrations on an unsuspecting woman...or worse a little kid.


Let them do what they do...if you take porn away then you take away the only sexual outlet of some desperate individual who may live next door to you.

Would you rather have them out stalking the neighborhood with a rape kit and a bag full of candy?

They are going to achieve gratification one way or the other, and I would much rather they do it in their own homes without having to resort to taking drastic measures.

Think about it.



posted on Dec, 5 2008 @ 01:51 AM
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Since you changed your OP considerably, my original comment would of been vastly different. But, now to me it seems like nothing more than a waste of time and a joke. [prove me wrong]


Originally posted by apaulo
Sometimes I think people say things just to stir up emotions, I know I do, and I think that is what you are doing here. Did you actually read what I said?


Yes, I read what you originally said. It's nice you're honest, but me stirring up emotions? That was never an intention of mine, you are possibly reading too much into what I said and are reaching for something that isn't there. But, do tell what you see or believe I said that could be considered stirring up emotions, you seem to left that out. Besides, it was just an opinion on your opinion, after I gave my response to your original question.



“The flame that started the fire?”;

“somewhere along the line it MUST have had an impact.”

THAT is “outlandish”???


What I said...

Originally posted by Forest
As for pornography being responsible for all sex crimes against women and children, that is quite an outlandish claim.

(I should of said outlandish opinion.) That was in response to part of your comment.. below.


Originally posted by apaulo
I believe that porn is responsible for all sex crimes against women and children.

Well, until you edited it to add "partially responsible." Which pretty much negates anything I said, because it was a specific response to your old opinion, not your new one.



Porn, alcohol, drugs… you put them in the same category, except drugs are illegal and some are given only by prescription. Which leads me to a great idea…


Seems what I should of said was: Pornography plays no part in domestic violence, that I've seen nor I could find. The main factors that always appear in every domestic violence case I've heard about - the same factors always come up, too much alcohol, drugs (illegal or otherwise), even financial problems.

And I am able to differentiate between illegal narcotics and prescription drugs, your explanation wasn't necessary and a stretch to find a fault. It was a quick blanket statement.

[edit on 12/5/2008 by Forest]



posted on Dec, 5 2008 @ 04:22 PM
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Originally posted by anxietydisorder
What would we do if you banned porn ???

He doesn't even look sexy anymore.....




Looks more like the effects of Fluoride in the water...lol

Seriously though.. The word "Pornography" comes from the Mid-19th century word from the Greek word pornographos ("writing about prostitutes"). And it when broken down comes down to the word Porne' which means "Prostitute". And as we all know, Prostitution is one of the oldest professions in our known history. Pornography has evolved into the digital age and yes we are getting more and more desensitized as it becomes more prevalent and accessible to not only adults, but also our children.

But as far as the eradication of Pornography, I think that although the idea is good, it would be as hard as trying to eradicate illicit drugs. Probably the best thing is to try and start in one's home with education. But here again, todays role models are no longer the parents (as it should be), but actors, sports figures and musicians, which just by coincidence seem to partake and frequent above-said "deviant acts". So I think the concept although being a wonderful one, would result with negative results.

I'm not trying to be negative here, I think that it would be great to live in a world without "Porn".



posted on Dec, 5 2008 @ 08:28 PM
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OK does anyone have any idea how long porn has been around. Look at all the paintings in the museums they are great explains of early porn. All the way back to the days of the cave man. Porn has been around for centuries. No it is not the flame that started the fire. Women have been treated this why since the start of time. Throughout history women have and will always be a sex object. That is the base idea of a woman you have sex with them and you have kids with them. I really don't care how far we have come women will always be looked at this way. Porn had nothing to do with it man did. Men see themselves as the superior and will always do so.

Would you want it to be illegal? OK you can make it legal when you can define pornography. That is why it is not illegal. Define it and I will come up with different pics on that definition to make you change the definition.

Do you think it does any harm? Yes and no but to make it illegal will be a waste of time. See all the laws in place now and the over crowding of prisons what good are the laws we have now.



posted on Dec, 5 2008 @ 10:02 PM
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Since you changed your OP considerably, my original comment would of been vastly different. But, now to me it seems like nothing more than a waste of time and a joke. [prove me wrong]


Oh, my! I've been caught red handed!! How embarrassing!

NOT.

I completely rewrote my OP to avoid another someone getting their boxers in bunch... or should I say panties?

Chill out forest. I won't take your porn... :
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posted on Dec, 5 2008 @ 10:03 PM
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You gotta star from me... great point.



posted on Dec, 6 2008 @ 12:42 AM
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While we are at it maybe we should make all of these things illegal too: Alcohol, Smoking, Fast Food, Soda, Candy Bars, the internet, and especially World of Warcraft!

All of things things are potentially harmful for any individual. It's up to the individual to make responsible decisions regarding their use.



posted on Dec, 6 2008 @ 01:49 AM
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Originally posted by apaulo
Porn should only be prescribed to men with erectile dysfunction!


How could a man who can't get an erection through real live intercourse be able to suddenly get one through sex on the tv? It's still the same act that he fails to get an erection from. The only difference is it's on tv.



posted on Dec, 6 2008 @ 02:10 AM
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Originally posted by apaulo
My Opinion:
I believe that porn is partiallyresponsible for all sex crimes against women and children.


Read Catherine McKenna and other feminist philosophers 'on porn.'

It's not the visual, it's the gender.

"apaulo"

That's a girls name, right?



posted on Dec, 6 2008 @ 08:32 AM
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we don't need more laws and more things to be illegal. i don't consume porn but i think it should be totally legal to adults just like it is now.
whats the problem




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