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Topic started on 4-12-2008 @ 05:10 PM by Max_TO
I found this video on youtube www.youtube.com...
Its one guy showing how he is handling the problem of illegal immigration . Do you think he is right or wrong ?


reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 05:38 PM by jam321
reply to post by deadline527



One day when the crime, drugs, and other things illegals bring gets out of control, the country will finally wake up and see that we are doing ourselves no good by promoting criminal behavior.


If Americans would quit creating such a high demand for drugs we wouldn't have to worry about these types of problems. You should click on the link in my sig area and see if you agree with that kind of immigration policy.


reply posted on 5-12-2008 @ 02:16 AM by mdiinican
Originally posted by theindependentjournal
Originally posted by nh_ee
Illegal aliens is in itself contradictory for unless you're a Native American, everyone on this continent immigrated here at one point in time or the other.


I am a Natural Born Native American and no I am not American Indian, I did NOT emigrate from anyplace, I have never been to Germany in my life, the place my ancestors at some point came from.

So thanks for that completely idiotic response, it is a non-starter.


That's kind of true. The original inhabitants of the Americans aren't exactly a native species to the area, having come over around the ice age, putting them as living there for about 12,000 years or so. When it comes to land, possession is the only thing of legal concern. Israel may have claimed the land that it inhabits because that was where the ancient Israelite used to live, but the only thing that keeps them living there instead of the Palestinians who they displaced is the fact that they came in and took over forcibly, and fought several wars to defend their claim.

Sure it isn't justified, but what is anyone going to do about it? You can't go around giving back territories to their original owners; many groups are nonexistent, through genetic drift or genocide, and nobody except possibly some Africans are actually truly native to the area they inhabit. It was wrong of European settlers and later Americans to come in, kill off the vast majority of the native people of the Americans (directly and through diseases, both accidentally and purposefully transferred), then steal their land and force the survivors onto poor quality land where they wouldn't have to deal with them, but what's there to do about it? Nobody involved is still alive.

The guy in the video is a bigoted idiot, though, and he isn't justified.


reply posted on 5-12-2008 @ 02:27 AM by tac109
reply to post by nh_ee



You know what, your right! we should tear down all our walls on our borders and allow every mexican who wants to come here come here. And as a result of that I hope you will enjoy living in mexico, because thats what it will turn into.


reply posted on 5-12-2008 @ 02:32 AM by tac109
reply to post by nh_ee



Oh and my ancestors came here and created freedom, they created this great country, and yes they needed to put up walls in order to protect it. Oh and guess what, Native americans, arnt really native americans, For one, there was no such thing as america when they were here it was land, the americans came, named the land then named them selves, and for two, according to the bible, god didnt create native americans, so I guess they had to immagrate to the land too.


reply posted on 5-12-2008 @ 02:55 AM by LordBucket

Max_TO
Do you think he is right or wrong ?


I generally try to not deal in fuzzy concepts like "right and wrong."

I would describe what he's doing as rude. He is also taking plesaure in the discomfort of others. Is that "wrong?" Well, it's not something that I would do, or that I would want my children to do, but I wouldn't refuse to speak to someone over something like this. It's a practical joke. He's basically doing the same thing as a person who puts a bucket of water on top of a semi-open door and laughs when it dumps on somebody. Do you want that sort of person as a friend? Maybe not. But you also don't shoot them on sight.


jam321
His racist words are uncalled for.


Would you people get over this "racism is special" idea that's so stuck in your heads? If he had done exactly the same thing to a random group of college students and called them "idiots" instead of "beaners" would you feel so strongly? I'm guessing probably not. What's so special about a "racist" slur? Why is disliking members of a racial group any more or less acceptable than disliking members of any kind of group other than race? Why is it better to dislike people who are members of a certain religious group? Why is it better to dislike people who are members of a particular economic or education backgrounds? It isn't. There's nothing special about racism. It doesn't deserve any special treatment. Stop being angry at people who are racists. It's no different than people who dislike Christians, or rich people, or any other group.


reply posted on 5-12-2008 @ 01:14 PM by kidflash2008
reply to post by Max_TO



The video is staged. He has a camera operator in the front seat, and another one videotaping the truck driving over the speed bumps. (The workers would run at seeing a camera if they were real illegals.) A lame attempt at comedy, but staged none the less.



reply posted on 5-12-2008 @ 07:21 PM by mdiinican
Originally posted by tac109
reply to
post by nh_ee



Oh and my ancestors came here and created freedom, they created this great country, and yes they needed to put up walls in order to protect it. Oh and guess what, Native americans, arnt really native americans, For one, there was no such thing as america when they were here it was land, the americans came, named the land then named them selves, and for two, according to the bible, god didnt create native americans, so I guess they had to immagrate to the land too.


You'd probably take issue if a bunch of people came from overseas, killed 90% of Americans, and marched the surviviors off at gunpoint to live on small chunks of what they deem the least desirable land in the country. It was as much their land then (well, between a large number of distinct tribal cultures instead of one contiguous country, but the point being, it belonged to *somebody*) as much as it is our land now.

Also: As far as I know, the bible doesn't mention god creating the populace of any specific landmass, just Adam and eve, in the garden of Eden. Archeology would indicate that man comes from africa, so everyone outside africa (and most people within) are not native to where they are now. What matters under a practical standpoint is who owns the land now, and how prepared they are to keep it. But I don't think many people would consider that the sole condition for justified ownership.

I guess the point is; as someone born of a generation who has only known the land they live on, you're as much a native to the area as anyone who's ancestors have lived there longer; but you'd damn well learn the lesson taught by the people your ancestors killed or deposed to take the place; the only thing keeping you on your land is your governing bodies ability to convince other people not to kill or depose you.


[edit on 5-12-2008 by mdiinican]


reply posted on 5-12-2008 @ 07:27 PM by RFBurns
reply to post by jam321



Your dreaming to believe that illegal immigration is a result of America's drug addiction!

Note the word in the phrase "Illegal IMMIGRATION"...ok?


Now what does that mean?


Illegal Immigration 101.


Illegal Immigration is when you get people who are NOT American citizens, or people who have not gone through the naturalization process, cross the boarders of the United States ILLEGALLY and do not make any effort to go through the naturalization process to become a LEGAL CITIZEN of the United States.

Illegal immigration has absolutely nothing to do with drugs. Drugs come into this country by rail, by boat, by plane, by car, by shipping, and yes, only a fraction of it comes across by foot via the illegal immigrants running from the boarder patrol.


I suggest you study up on the precentages of where the drug traffic activites really are taking place.


Cheers!!!!


reply posted on 7-12-2008 @ 02:33 AM by jam321
reply to post by tac109



We are working on tearing down the walls and letting every Mexican come here. It is called the North American Union.
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