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Time To End The Ron Paul Revolution

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posted on Dec, 4 2008 @ 04:26 PM
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This thread is not meant as a disrespect to Ron Paul or any of his followers. I don't agree with the political views of Ron Paul nor any other politician 100%. However, I would have voted for him in a New York minute if he had been on the ballot in my state.


Ron Paul is a well honorable man who has done his job diligently in calling attention to many of the problems that are currently plaguing this Great Nation. Problems, that for the most part, have been largely ignored by the two party system. His greatest contribution, IMHO, is his never ending tireless effort to try to get members of Congress to adhere to the Supreme Law of the Land, the US Constitution, and for Congress to return to this nation's roots of WE THE PEOPLE rather than We The Government.


For Rep. Paul, each piece of legislation must be examined for its constitutionality; that is, on the basis of whether or not the US Constitution allows the Congress or the Federal Government to engage in the actions described by the proposed legislation. If the Constitution does not allow it, then it must be opposed.


www.house.gov...

I am deeply saddened to say that it is time to end the Ron Paul Revolution and start finding a new person to take his place. Call it a generation gap or a changing of the guard, we need to find a younger version of Ron Paul with an Obama like persona who can electrify and motivate people into taking action rather than sitting back. During Ron Paul's years in Congress, he proposed many ideas that could have helped America in many ways. Unfortunately, the two party system and greed muted him out. During his Presidential runs, he was successfully held to a non playing factor thanks in large part to the MSM and the two party system of power.


Paul authors more bills than the average representative, such as those that impose term limits, or abolish the income tax[85] or the Federal Reserve; many do not escape committee review.


en.wikipedia.org...


This does not mean that Ron Paul has to be put to rest. I encourage him to continue to speak out. However, even he needs to admit that is time for somebody younger and just as passionate to take the reins.

Who do you think would make a great successor to Ron Paul and continue the fight on behalf of We The People?




posted on Dec, 4 2008 @ 04:29 PM
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I am going to have to agree to this 100%. As for who should "take the reigns", I too do not know.

Either way, great thread.



posted on Dec, 4 2008 @ 06:19 PM
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This is not a situation where there's only room for one!

A replacement is not necessary. What is necessary is for the younger politicians to get a soul, organize a new front line party and get out there and get elected. Leave Ron Paul be, to be what he his, heart and soul. He doesn't need a party anyways.

The real way to effect change is have 100 Ron Pauls in the house. All ages, all colors and all sexes.

His age is not a problem either. He's willing to take the fight to the grave. Him, being a doctor, is likely to be in good health and will probably be around when the young ones are just retiring.

We need more Ron Pauls. The leader of the like minded would emerge rather quick. Let's not say that there needs to be a replacement. There needs to be a hundred more like him, maybe a thousand.

I do know what you mean though. Continuity of the fight. But there needs to be several relentless fronts.



posted on Dec, 4 2008 @ 06:30 PM
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The fact that marketing is most of what effects an election lends some credence to your idea. Ron Pauls age and looks arent really the problem. The problem is that the citizens of this country let the talking heads and multi million dollar media campaigns run the show. They go for fashionable or pretty.
We need an intelligent educated citzenry who will pay attention to something besides consumer ads and American Idol.
Ron Paul is one of the few politicians that cares about this country. Hopefully he can find a more marketable protege who can win elections in the future because I don't see our fellow countrymen attempting to educate themselves any time soon.
Good thread.



posted on Dec, 4 2008 @ 06:36 PM
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Ron Paul's problem was not his age, it was the fact that he was raising real issues that the mainstream media (or the people who run the MSM) cannot cover. So it doesn't matter who takes over; if they have the same stances on issues as Ron Paul then they too will get blackballed by the media and have no chance to win a presidential race.

If you really want someone like Ron Paul to win a presidential election then you need to wake the people up to the fact that the MSM has their own agenda and should not be trusted.



posted on Dec, 4 2008 @ 06:41 PM
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The Revolution is in each and every one of us. Ron Paul was just the wake up call.
We now know we don't need someone to lead us, when we are the leaders and we will change the way the people in our government treat the constitution.



posted on Dec, 4 2008 @ 11:14 PM
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I donated $2300 to him back before he made his first 1 mil in donations. Which is so unlike me, my friends and family didn't believe I had actually done it. I never gave money to any politician in my life before then.

And I disagree completely. The man himself is special in that he has a long history in congress and a long history of being right and doing the right things, even in the face of it being spun by people as being bad. He stood up when every single person in congress other than him did nothing.

There is no way in the world I am just going to forget about that. When I was completely fed up with the congressmen and didn't think there was an honest one in the bunch, he proved to me in his voting record and such that there was such an honest man. His name is Ron Paul.

But getting Ron Paul elected is not the solution, and never has been. It takes a public who is educated and alert and that is what has to be done. Educating the people to the truth of things.

Eventually another person will come along, but there is no reason to just drop Ron Paul while he is still alive and fighting for our rights. I will support him until he is no longer in congress etc.



posted on Dec, 5 2008 @ 09:45 PM
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I appreciate all the comments.

All of you have contributed some excellent thoughts to this thread.


We do need more people, like Ron Paul, in Congress.



posted on Dec, 5 2008 @ 09:50 PM
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Although he is not much younger, I believe Jesse Ventura is next in line. And yes, I'm serious. Youtube him.



posted on Dec, 5 2008 @ 10:02 PM
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Too late
It's already over.

The new organization is called "Campaign for Liberty".
Ron is now one of the most popular guests of the "talking heads" on television.
Mainstream media loves him now that the election is over, and the economy is behaving much the way he said it would.
Now the process consists of identifying and electing those that still have a sense of Liberty and sound money policies.
Getting them into office at all levels, local and national.
There is a lot to undo, between Bush, the Clintons, and now Obama, there will be even MORE to undo by the time the dog and pony shows are over.

Meet the new boss
Same as the old boss



posted on Dec, 5 2008 @ 10:21 PM
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The fact that marketing is most of what effects an election lends some credence to your idea. Ron Pauls age and looks arent really the problem. The problem is that the citizens of this country let the talking heads and multi million dollar media campaigns run the show. They go for fashionable or pretty.

I believe you hit the nail on the head. The American public has become a product of their ultimate "god", television. In fact, for many Americans, it seems that they have a hard time distinguishing between the fantasy of TV and the real world. "Reality TV" is hardly reality. It is nothing more than a series of freak shows, dreams, or more appropriately, nightmares. It gives people the illusion that it is easy to become rich, famous, accomplished. Just go on American Idol and become a superstar.
Most Americans have become lazy, in plain English. Sit down, watch TV, and let the media tell you what to believe, what to wear, who to vote for, what to eat, where to vacation, and who to worship. The average American brain is in a severe state of atrophy, which could be reversed, if people would just turn off the idiot box, read some books, even search the Internet for some gems of wisdom and knowledge, or even join ATS, and discuss issues.
One of the things that ATS has done, is enabled people to think on their own, debate their views with others, and perhaps even change their mind, if they see that another member has done a good job of changing their view on some issue.
Look at the support that Ron Paul got from ATS members, and frequent Internet users. People that spent most of their time watching TV, in most cases, never even heard of Ron Paul. The MSM doesn't like people who think on their own, they want to be in control, and the way to do that is to tell people what to think. They are the perfect Marketeers.



posted on Dec, 5 2008 @ 10:25 PM
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Mainstream media loves him now that the election is over, and the economy is behaving much the way he said it would.


Do they love him or are they using him cause he has a big following?

[edit on 5-12-2008 by jam321]



posted on Dec, 5 2008 @ 10:27 PM
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Due to his age, he does need to pass the torch, not to one person but to a new generation. He has lit a fire under the youth of America. A fire that burns on truth instead of mantras. I joined YAL to support the cause. Its an organization to let the libertarian movement more active on and near college campuses and is endorsed by Ron Paul. blog.yaliberty.org...

I would really like to get a chapter started at my university but I must work full time and go to school full time. I would definitely join a local chapter though.



posted on Dec, 5 2008 @ 10:33 PM
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He has lit a fire under the youth of America. A fire that burns on truth instead of mantras. I joined YAL to support the cause.


I will say he did but not to the extent Obama did. However, I credit Obama more to peer pressure and a fad among youths. An American idol type of popularity.



posted on Dec, 5 2008 @ 10:54 PM
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well it'd be easy to snipe that there was no revolution to start with.

i'm sorry but this begs for topic change. give your energy to politicians and you can expect more policy in return.

george carlin put it best.

this is the best we can hope for. politicians do not come from a vaccuum. garbage in, garbage out. god rest his soul.



posted on Dec, 5 2008 @ 11:04 PM
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Neither, they love his brain I suppose.
He's a key person in gaining an understanding of what the the two major political parties have done, and are continuing to do to the American population via bad money policies, and creeping socialistic control.



posted on Dec, 5 2008 @ 11:07 PM
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He's a key person in gaining an understanding of what the the two major political parties have done, and are continuing to do to the American population via bad money policies, and creeping socialistic control.


I nominate this to be the quote of the year. Nothing but truth in this quote.



posted on Dec, 9 2008 @ 11:47 AM
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Originally posted by Atlantican
This is not a situation where there's only room for one!


We need more Ron Pauls. The leader of the like minded would emerge rather quick. Let's not say that there needs to be a replacement. There needs to be a hundred more like him, maybe a thousand.

I do know what you mean though. Continuity of the fight. But there needs to be several relentless fronts.


Word.



posted on Dec, 31 2008 @ 08:07 PM
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Originally posted by Atlantican

We need more Ron Pauls. The leader of the like minded would emerge rather quick. Let's not say that there needs to be a replacement. There needs to be a hundred more like him, maybe a thousand.


That this selfish and corrupt country has one Ron Paul is amazing.

It must be that one section of Texas has enough good ppl to
elect one good person.

This country is going down the toilet bowl at mach 5, and it will become much more apparent when the derivatives crash fully unwinds.

Ppl have no idea of the size of it, and why the Fed will not reveal
who they doled out 3 trillion to recently.

Ron Paul is scorned and ridiculed on national TV at the debates.

They act like high school hecklers to a US congressman.

No respect at all, and it is very telling as to what the US has become.

One of the VERY few politicians that has a solid voting record.

We just elected a president that voted present over 100 times.

He didn't pick a side, you'd think he'd at least vote democrat ?

What is in store for us is so bad ppl will not believe it til it is far too late.

The bankrupting of a nation is well under way.

Buckle up Dorothy! its gonna be a bumpy ride !

Good Luck to you all !



posted on Dec, 31 2008 @ 08:46 PM
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Originally posted by jam321
reply to post by spacedoubt
 



Mainstream media loves him now that the election is over, and the economy is behaving much the way he said it would.


Do they love him or are they using him cause he has a big following?

[edit on 5-12-2008 by jam321]


Some ppl do like Ron Paul in the media, but did not want to look
like kooks during the election.

Ron was marginalized in the election and made to look eccentric,
and damn few wanted to be dragged down with him.

In the beginning a patriot is a scarce man, hated and feared and scorned. But in time when his cause succeeds, the timid join him, because then it costs nothing to be a patriot.
-Mark Twain

Now with the crash on the way down and more and more of what
Ron Paul predicted coming to pass they realize that he was
right and the media are more inclined to risk being associated.

Ppl are scared right now, so they will turn to anyone that seems
to have a grasp of what might be coming next.

Some even now know that they were lied to for a very long time.

Some now know those they elected are marionettes.

Some are angry at the degree of the lying, and the degree of the
corruption, and now know the very existence of their country
lies in the balance, but to be honest it is far too late.

Good Luck to you all !



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