Egyptians Fear Underground Mystery Base...Hemeyat Al Zayton

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posted on Dec, 4 2008 @ 02:29 PM
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Ok, this is my first thread so be gentle....

I normally keep my info to myself, but after I was in egypt last month and got back yesterday, I had a very odd experience. I'll start off with a back story, but to save you time I'm going to get to the good part here and now and work towards it later...I have reason to suspect that there is a tunnel entrance to some sort of organized base under neath Helmeyat Al Zayton....Supposedly this area is where "The Tree of Mary" lies dormant...I have no clue as to what this enigmatic term means/implies/signifies....I am not egyptian, I'm not even tanned so the info I recieved from the residents was taken with a grain of salt...Though to pique my interest even further most accounts were surprisingly similiar between ages, and different castes (Yes they have a caste system still). I was in Egypt for a series of defense seminars as well as business networking, so I was not expecting to use my time following this odd series of stories.

ok, with me? Ready?

It all started with a you tube video I saw where I heard of the Helmeyat Al Zeyton area to have demon spirits within it, laughing I put this away in my brain-pan (memory section) and continued with my life...Years after I find myself walking through Cairo, Egypt when I stumbled upon a sign my colleague (An egyptian guide) read to say Helmeyat Al Zayton...To my surprise before I could even provide my experience with the name he said "This area has bad, evil people...we will take a cab around it...ok?"......This aroused my pride and made me excited to feel a sense of danger...I ignored him and walked along the roadway. (I have tried to since then find a map that includes this small area on it, It's only about 2 miles wide, mostly old houses warehouses and a small pier on the northern edge) I walked into the first public pub I had found (I'm irish hate me) and started mingling with my guide..Within five minutes we had a small crowd around us yelling and almost giving us confessions of what goes on in their small town.. This is a boiled down version of what these 3 men (Several others were not there for this event but had known about it) told us, one of them was so uncomfortable he excused himself entirely.

"We had been beginning a survey for a subway/sewer system, we had to go deep to miss large limestone deposits, when our foreman had asked us if anyone spoke italian, I asked why...our boss replied that he had found a man with a evil face in a pocket of rocks, and he had spoken what sounded to be italian...the men thinking it was some joke ran into the lower extremity of the dig, to find not one but two men with angry twisted looking faces that seemed to breathe like a chest...They noticed that they were wearing bright blue robes, that seemed to not be in any way dirty (Very Clean and Proper" was the direct term). "Biggun" ( What I called The tallest scariest looking of the men) then yelled at the two men, they made eye contact, Biggun had the sensation of his skin being pulled away from his bones...Then he noticed more shadows moving behind the men. At this point the men thought they were dealing with some sort of odd cult or club, the workers having 8 men with them were not opposed to physical violence (Very rowdy bunch), at this point felt the need force their new cavern dwelling guests out of their dig site..That's when Biggun noticed that one of the men had a two foot long tail...At this point he yelled again in hopes to scare them as he approached with a long metal pole...When they next made eye contact, both the men gave a loud screech and ran deeper into the darkness..."

ok at this point I find out they had not even dug in that direction nor had they moved any soil from that quadrant....
So Question 1. How did a tunnel magically appear and how did they remove the soil?

Question 2. what happened to the tunnel? where's the proof?

Aha! I can answer number 2.....

[edit on 4-12-2008 by Judo Warrior]




posted on Dec, 4 2008 @ 02:57 PM
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I can confirm having heard tales of strange ongoings beneath Cairo while being in Cairo.

Please continue...very interesting.



posted on Dec, 4 2008 @ 03:06 PM
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To answer Question two....

The egyptian subway system is the only subway in the continet of africa...
The incident happened around november 2 1986...the subway was completed in 1987..In direct Egyptina the town is spelt Helmiyet El Zeitoun
here's a map of it in 1987


www.geocities.jp...

now to the answer..
The tunnel was blocked by the government (Imagine that) and the subway map does not show it makes a rather large horseshoe turn near Helmiyet....

As for proof I can only give a picture at the end of the week of what my guide says is "A large concrete boulder in front of a metal corridor, I can feel an air current from behind it) .....


Stories continue as I walk and really enjoy this part of Egypt (Older people, lot's of babes) I met an older morrocan couple who were very well off (Rich as hell) and they invited me to their large estate for dinner and company...They began to answer my questions on the subways development, they went on to inform me they had found two Temples of Toth (Come on Google it) and they hinted towards something called the Tree Of Mary...when I inquired about it they looked at each other and changed the subject...me being very inquisitive I had to pry further using leading questions and almost hypnotic rhythmic prose, I was able to find out that the Tree of Mary is not an Actual Tree it is a series of tunnels supposedly leading to the Garden of Eden, they go on to tell me that the Tree of Mary has many meanings and not to put much faith in it as it is only a myth....

(whew I'm sorry this is the only way I can explain this without sounding like a novelist)

After I was done acting un-informed I began raising contradictory issues (Bigguns story, Toth, Drunvalo, Reptilians) when the topic of Reptile shape shifting humans came up...they had me escorted off their property... Surprised I'm not....not once did I see them take a drink from the glasses poured, not once did they truely look me in the eyes.... Odd I think not....I don't know why or how they could have been easily offended after hours of intense conversation...and no eye contact, I had been in the past offended by that, but in this case them not looking me in the eye felt "Right".....I'm not one for this conspiracy.....but Occam's Razor tells me they must have been involved somehow with this...more than that they were trying to fill my mind with what I wanted in hopes to suffice my intrigue, so I wouldn't pry...I can alternatively suggest they may have just been angry I had played dumb in order to milk them...almost like a jedi mind trick...


So we have weird men in a tunnel that wonderously appears, A government that plugs up a large metal tunnel with a big Concrete BOULDER?...A subway is routed about half a mile around something and it doesn't even show a curve on the map? Tree of Mary, and Temples of Toth (I'm serious Google it)? Odd Rich people.....the only thing that really makes me scared is I seduced a wonderful lady from that town..


I hope she isn't hatching my child...

Please look into this every one ask me anything This did really happen and my guide will send us what we need!



posted on Dec, 4 2008 @ 03:20 PM
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Please repost the map-link. It wont show.

The rumours Ive heard about underground cairo:

* Ancient Egyptian finds yet to be made
* Ancient Egyptian finds that were covered-uo
* Passageways to subterranean dwellings
* And Ive also heard the rumor about the subway authorities re-planning their construction due to unforseen oddities.

Go ahead and be adventurous in your search.



[edit on 4-12-2008 by Skyfloating]



posted on Dec, 4 2008 @ 03:59 PM
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* Make sure your guide is not telling a tourist tall-tales and organizing these pub-tell-ins for money.

* Ask your guide about excavations being done in Cairo.

* Ask around about the Toth Temples

* Ask about ancient tunnels being found by subway authorities



posted on Dec, 4 2008 @ 04:19 PM
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::Update::

I will have recordings of two couples who claim they have seen odd things while leaving the subway at night...I should have these before the end of the day...also I will post the picture of the boulder blockade.....

If you have any suggestions that would be awesome I'm only one guy with one bank account I cannot fund a lifetime search I've got about a week of investigation into this.....

I think that Skyfloating's list gives this issue more presidence...People know about it and they go on like it's normal....Is it normal that the residents of this town have blacked out all of their windows and they have bars on the inside of the window? Is it normal that the entire town has no dogs..no cats...no freaking birds even!! I have even heard that no one has ever gotten pregnant in the town!!! (Conseption is executed elsewhere from what I hear is a common practice)

****In response to Sky's suggestions***

The guide is actually a good friend who did not even want to go near the town, he does not like to even be near this project his backround is ex-military, and he now is an outside security councilate for a small shipping company..

Excavations from what I have read and heard is contained to maintenance, aside from the Sphynx project that will not even be executed for another 2 years..but I hear that It's very hard to get a job in excavations since 1987 (THanks again Biggun!) and that usually the jobs do not even near finish, before someone pulls the plug or says it's unsafe..The most common excuse is "Uncertain Aquifer Pressures" Wtf? aquifer pressure? seriously?


Thoth is known as the Gate keeper...Toth means Truth and Time...Now he is mainly associated with sacred geometry, expecially within the flower of life and "Vescis" (Please don't expect me to be an expert I'm not)...Thoth in egyptian culture is the embodiment of Knowldge of secrets (Math, Astrology, chemistry, physics,ETC) as well as being a catalyst for indefinite changes.....This piques my interest about this Tree Of MARY...perhaps it's some sort of sacred geometry based tunnel that acts a dimensional rift? perhaps its like the "Stargate"...Maybe it's just a wacky tunnel...or some thing off of Gears of War 2...

What I do know is we are scared of it...Because we can't; Eat it, Kill it, or Own it.........


Oh yeah and Sky I've tried to get ahold of their planning and zoning commitee but I am getting routed to a business registration line.......


I've updated the picture of the map...This is not the one I wanted to show but this one was made in 2004 and looks an awful lot different than the one of 1987

"http://subway.umka.org/map-cairo/line-3/emad-eldin.html"

And by the way this all happened within the last two days...Yes I'm in the states again....but my friend is ever vigilant...


Thanks for your help Sky you made me think about this differently



posted on Dec, 4 2008 @ 04:30 PM
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If you can get that picture and those interview up, this thread will have some documentation and go a very long way.

Until then, responses will be sparse.

You're back in the states? I thought you said you were still in Cairo?



posted on Dec, 4 2008 @ 04:37 PM
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For some reason my laptop could not access the internet in cairo...Broadband and wifi would not take....That's why I am posting this now instead of right after I knew something was up.....I should have at least 2 parts of the pictorial within hours.....

Thanks for your help Sky!



posted on Dec, 4 2008 @ 06:12 PM
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Bring it on



posted on Dec, 4 2008 @ 06:31 PM
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this does sound interesting. I want to hear more about this.

I've heard that there are underground military installations around cairo, but i read it in some ufo book when i was younger.

something about how military men guard tunnels that lead to underground bases (military i presume) and that they take this base so seriously that even falling asleep on guard duty is punishable with death.

who knows.



posted on Dec, 4 2008 @ 06:38 PM
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What is a fact is that it is extremely difficult to travel anywhere in Egypt without a guide and military-checkpoints.

I always wondered why freedom of travel was so restricted. Rent a car and just drive out into the desert by yourself, away from the tourist roads? Forget it.

I once tried that and the military check-point guys ask me to get out of the car and started interrogating me why I wanted to leave the main road.

I said: "Just for fun. I want to travel on a road without traffic and tourist buses".

"No possible, no possible" they kept telling me.

I thought to myself: What dangers could I possibly encounter other than desert sand?

Odd thing that is.



posted on Dec, 4 2008 @ 06:44 PM
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yeah it does make you wonder whats going on in egypt.

maybe somethings been going on in egypt that we're not supposed to know about for the last few thousand years if you catch my drift. maybe that harwass guy (the head of egypt's archaeology for the govt) or whatever his name is could shed a little light.

he seems like he's covering up something. very shady indeed.

I can't wait to learn and hear more about this underground tunnel. it's very interesting.



posted on Dec, 4 2008 @ 06:46 PM
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I hope the dude learns to link properly. I cant see any of the maps he's linking.



posted on Dec, 4 2008 @ 07:35 PM
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lol ... hey Judo Warrior, you wouldn't also happen to be quandary121 would you?

Got this post from the above link:


Did you know that their is a Underground Reptilian City discovered in Egypt
Its in a place called Helmeyat Al zayton,this is the place where the tree of Mary lies,They were building there for the subway system, and they dug about 100-200 meters deep, and they found a tunnel where people were walking around normally, the only difference between us and them is that they had TAILS,They reported this incident immediately to the president of Egypt Hosi mubarak,he ordered that every thing be re-shut without anyone knowing and especillay without the peoplw below ground knowing ,and thats how it ended,now everything is shut and you can walk over it normally but they are bellow,this place called Helmeya the city "Eye of the Sun" is part of it


Kinda interesting - but would like more info...

So, do you really think these are Reptilians?

[edit on 4-12-2008 by DarkspARCS]



posted on Dec, 4 2008 @ 11:03 PM
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This is fascinating and I hope some more information is forthcoming.
Given the environment, I jokingky can't resist the temptation to call this yet another Mossad false flag operation.

On a skeptical note, Egypt may be a relatively poor country, but some of the most advanced archeologists and anthropologists in the world are in Cairo.

As undiscovered men with tails is about the biggest story in recorded history, Media and schloraly investigators in Egypt would research it and make some sort of report. The discoverer would become very famous and rich, demons notwithstanding.

It's impossible to keep something of this magnitude secret - if there's any basis in truth to it.


Mike F



posted on Dec, 4 2008 @ 11:26 PM
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so its been about 3 months since the post.....is judo warrior still around?
I only found this post today and its eerily familliar to 2 other accounts I heard over the last few years....



posted on Dec, 4 2008 @ 11:32 PM
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Originally posted by Kashodi
so its been about 3 months since the post.....is judo warrior still around?
I only found this post today and its eerily familliar to 2 other accounts I heard over the last few years....


This is kinda funny...

I find the date of the post marked April 12 of this year, and here it is December 4. When I posted my comment I showed the date of my post, which should have been Dec. 4 but instead posted April 12, the same as the OP, which I don't understand... however if my posting date matches the OP posting date then this seems to be a post from December 4... anyone else experiencing this odd post mark issue?

[edit on 4-12-2008 by DarkspARCS]



posted on Dec, 4 2008 @ 11:39 PM
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There was a program on History Channel about 3 years ago talking about the vast tunnels that span from the Giza area and all over under Cairo.

They found rooms and what looked like storage areas containing water. These areas were under the Giza platau. Strange to find water in a desolate dry desert. The dating on the materials that make up the storage bins and the water were said to be about 10,000 years old.

When was the last time it rained in Giza? 10,000 or so years ago?!

It is not unusual that the tunnels would intercept with modern Cairo subway systems and certian areas be guarded and blocked off.

As to what is really going on out there...who knows. But rest assured, it isnt something trivial when you got armed guards and blocked off tunnels and fences and ol Hawass standing around.



Cheers!!!!



posted on Dec, 4 2008 @ 11:55 PM
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reply to post by DarkspARCS
 


The date on the post doesn't say April 12, it says December 4: Just about everywhere in the world, the date is written as day/month/year:
4-12-08 is 4 December 2008, except in the US. 9/11 happened on 11/9 everywhere else in the world...

This is an interesting thread, though. Let's see if the OP posts some more.



posted on Dec, 5 2008 @ 01:25 AM
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ahh RFBurns, i've got something that connects to what you just said about the underground storage area for water


Argh, i'll have to find the link, i believe it's somewhere on the crystallinks website, but back to the point! A leading geologist was bought in by the egyptians to study the erosion of the sphinx. One of his controversial comments was that a majority (or something to that affect) of the erosion on the sphinx was done by rain! (just google sphinx eroded by rain)

Now, what if 10,000 years ago Egpyt was wet...Those egyptians over there cover up ALOT of things from the past and i wonder why





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