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Topic started on 4-12-2008 @ 11:25 AM by GoalPoster

Governor General agrees to suspend Parliament


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Stephen Harper has won his battle to hang on as prime minister - at least until January.
(visit the link for the full news article)


reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 11:44 AM by Rook1545
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I agree with you. The sentiment out West the last week or so has been close to full blown revolt. That is coming not only from PC supporters, but alot of Liberal and NDP voters as well. I hope this time is used by all of the parties to get their crap together and come up with something that will work for everyone. If worse comes to worse I say we throw all the party leaders together in a room and not let them out until they work out a solution that will be beneficial to the entire country.



reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 11:45 AM by wayno
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Well I have to admit I had never heard of "prorogued" before. This is a learning experience for me. It also gets you thinking about the real power that is in the hands of the GG.
I don't know what to make of it. I was kind of looking forward to a coalition government, tenuous or not. It still would be better than those crazy conservatives who only follow the American lead.
It may be a good thing that we aren't able to spend any additional money for the moment. I've been against the bailouts that have been going on elsewhere with the financial sector, but am not quite so against the loans for the auto companies. At least that might keep people working and money flowing in the economy until the other gets worked out.
Its not a clear picture, but I am glad the conservatives have had their wings clipped by this near coup.


reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 12:22 PM by DrumsRfun
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Man I totally agree.This is absurd.I hope the people rebel like crazy.


reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 12:30 PM by Trayen11
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agreed 100%

Now if anything major happens economically or otherwise, there is now, not a damn thing our governemnet will be able to do about it until Janurary. Just goes to show how truley flawed our political system is in Canada.

I mean how can so much power be given to the GG when it's supposed to merely a ceremonial position. Total and complete bull in my eye's. This retarded coalition tried to take power ignoring the votes of Canadian in the electiona month ago. (For the record im not a conservative, did not even vote for them this election) And the conservatives have been no better during this crisis, they sit thier on thier hands as our country falls apart economically. Funniest thing about this whole thing, is Dionne and the other coalition leaders have said they plan to put the vote through coming in january anyway, no matter what the current governemnt does. In my eyes this shows that this is nothing more than a power grab by the liberals. The vote didn't go the way they wanted so they will ignore the democratic process and the will of the canadian people and just take the governemnt for themselves.....total crap imho



reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 12:30 PM by johnsky
Well, if it weren't for Stephane Dion whining about losing the election and plotting his revenge, we wouldn't be in this mess.

Dion wanted to stop parliament all together and turn it into a darn cabinet of 25 decision makers... people we have no vote on.

The only alternative is to shut down parliament for a month.


And it's ALL Dion's fault!

We voted, he wants to ignore the votes, and now our government has to be suspended for a month while they sort out Dion's mess.

I hope the Liberal party gives him the boot for this mess... and a good old "Don't come back."



I mean how can so much power be given to the GG when it's supposed to merely a ceremonial position.


How can the ability to throw away the peoples vote be given to minor parties in Parliament?


There are allot of changes that are going to occur I think...

1. I think they'll make it law that you cannot switch nor join parties during a term. No document to the effect of a unified voice is to be considered binding.

2. Yeah, I think some will seek to have the Governor General position removed... but in this case, she just saved our backsides from having a non-representative un-elected government.

3. We the people need another tool at our disposal to voice our input into such matters.
If someone tries to get away with this form of illegal takeover again, and the governor general isn't here anymore... then there's not a darn thing we the people can do about it.


As for the economy. Nobody had a plan anyways, Harper's plan was being shot at by the Liberals... and yet the liberals didn't even have a plan themselves.

So one month without parliament, or with... there still wouldn't have been an economic plan pushed through.

[edit on 4-12-2008 by johnsky]


reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 12:36 PM by DrumsRfun
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Actually i see it a bit dif but agree with you in this was a power grab.Remember when Harper was talking to the separtists to gain power from PM Paul Martin??
Whats good for the goose is good for the gander.Harper did it!
Why not be held to his own standards.
Oops sorry...I forgot they have no standards!!LOL


reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 12:43 PM by Rook1545
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There is all kinds of flip flopping on this. The Conservatives see it as underhanded now but didn't back then, the Liberals saw it as underhanded then but not now. The only consistency has come from the NDP, who just want to be seen as bigger players than they actually are.


reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 12:43 PM by johnsky
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Yeah, I remember that.

I've always been against a coalition government.

The ONLY people in parliament should be the duly elected representatives of Canada.

A Coalition government is NOT duly elected, and certainly not representative.


As such I cannot, in good conscience, acknowledge a government who has taken the position of power through a hostile takeover.

Simply put, he ain't my Prime Minister... he's just some crook who's trespassing.


reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 12:49 PM by DrumsRfun
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About Layton and the NDP,of course they want to be bigger players.You proved my point that they are all just on a power trip.Regardless of how it affects us or Canadian poilitcs.
When Harper did this it was bad and now when Dion does it its bad.They are all greedy power hungry jerk offs in the same suit and tie.


reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 12:58 PM by warrenb
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take off your own horse blinders.

The coalition was ready to offer solutions within the next week by presenting a budget of their own.

Now thanks to the GG, Harper and the dumb ignorant Canadians who support them, NO fix will be had until at least January 26th. In reality probably much later.

Loving your country by playing favorites is screwing it over. Nice.

[edit on 4-12-2008 by warrenb]
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