Originally posted by Maxmars
I wasn't attacking him.
I know. I didn't say you were and I didn't see an attack from you. I was explaining why you might have the impression that I have a "tender spot"
about Obama. Some of these posts are VERY attacking.
Is this really an Obama HATE thread?
As I said, some posters clearly love to climb on the Obama hate bandwagon. Whether this is a hate thread or not is a matter of opinion. I try not to
judge the whole thread, rather the individual posts. I'm not calling anyone a racist.
By the way, I'm not meaning to imply anything about you personally. I try to say what I mean without implication, but sometimes I fail. And to be
completely honest with you, until yesterday, I didn't know who you were. Someone else said something personal about you and it made me take a second
look, but before that, I couldn't have said where you stand on any issue. So, it's not like I have a firm opinion of you. Some of the others in this
thread, I know quite well and we have clashed before.

Simply, my first post here was not at all directed at you.
I concede that celebrating an Obama day might fall under the category of celebrating diversity. I suspect I would be more comfortable with the idea
if were called 'Diversity Day'
I would be OK with that, but it doesn't honor the first non-white
man to accomplish the presidency. The man himself. It would just honor the
fact that he's non-white. And as you all have said, that's not a big deal. If they called it "diversity day", the the first woman president would
be honored with "Gender Day"!
I don't expect others to understand this accomplishment if they don't already understand the historic import. And since you're fairly new to the
board, you should know that FlyersFan and I used to be on the "same side" of this issue. We debated side by side. But I was gone for about a year
and in that time, I learned a great deal about being black in the US and have changed my perspective on a lot of issues. Just FYI.
But I don't expect that you would know that since I haven't seen your participation in those threads.
I don't see it as my place these days. People get joy from different things. Who am I to tell them what should be important to them? I used to
complain all day and night about February as being Black History Month, though.

You should do a search on some of the old racial threads. Some are
still available.
Otherwise, why are they called leaders?
Obama was the first black president of the Harvard Law Review. He was a State Senator for 8 years and a US Senator for 4. He is well-respected by
nearly ALL of Congress, regardless of his politics. He was elected the President of the US. I think it's safe to say he's a leader.
Finally, I am sorry to have offended you.
You have not offended me. It's VERY difficult to offend me.

I may argue like a crazy woman, but I rarely get offended. I enjoy debate, even when
it gets a bit "dirty".
Neither am I upset. I enjoy heated discussion. I don't take it personally. And I hope we talk more in the future.