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reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 11:20 PM by skeptic_al
reply to post by mikesingh



I'm sure in one those links there's some link to a book somewhere.
But I'm not going rumage through all of them to find it.

This has all the hall marks of more bull plop from Hoagland. Trying to
make a case for something out of absolutly nothing.


reply posted on 5-12-2008 @ 01:40 AM by makkerskilap
Originally posted by CeltAngel
reply to
post by makkerskilap



The picture intrigued me, so I took a look through the article. In regards to Jack Schmitt's suit, it appears there are 2 sets of boots.

The first set, which seem to match your picture, can be seen at different angles here: history.nasa.gov...
and here: history.nasa.gov...

Then there's references to the Lunar boot here:history.nasa.gov...
With the soles shown here: history.nasa.gov...

The last picture matches Mike's 9 cleat picture.

Darn, and I thought we were on to something there.


damn, thought i had it.. should have done some more research
subject still exiting though!


reply posted on 5-12-2008 @ 02:31 AM by angel of lightangelo
reply to post by mikesingh



Why do you keep ignoring the tread? It has been pointed out more than once that the tread is exactly the same. Same shape, size, and proportion on all the footprints no matter the size of the print. Why can't you acknowledge that?


reply posted on 5-12-2008 @ 02:38 AM by malcr
Originally posted by NavalFC
reply to
post by mikesingh



to the two posters so far in this thread:

Nonsense, utter nonsense. bullocks.

Its obvious to me from the photos that thesecond smaller print isnt really print at all of a seperate person but an area where the person stepped on their heel, and maybe do to the soil composition rocks, etc full pressure from the front part of the foot on that particular step may not have been pressured onto the ground


to the second poster, you are aware the hoaxed moon landing theory has been debunked several times

Has it? Where? I've seen many programs about hoaxes or not but the "or not" sides main argument is that we just went to the moon....full stop. The only anomolies that are debunked are the ones that, quite frankly, should never have been put on the table by keen think conspiracists. Anyone with an open mind can debunk them!

This is why I plead with folks here, please stop bringing up evidence which requires an almost religious conviction to believe in them. Otherwise they become the focus of attention leading to the claim above "moon landing hoax has been debunked".

There is a case in point right here: the footprints can indeed be partial and that was my first impression (sorry ). As for the suit, well, my first reaction was that the suit on the left was Apollo 17 wheres the suit on the right was from an earlier mission.....they changed the style!

If you want evidence of Apollo17 tampering look at the photos from the different locations and note how miraculous the moon landscape is in having exactly the same distant hills with a perfect horizontal split between foreground and background. A pre-photoshop badly cut and paste job if ever I saw one.



reply posted on 5-12-2008 @ 03:28 AM by jephers0n
Originally posted by angel of lightangelo
reply to
post by mikesingh



Why do you keep ignoring the tread? It has been pointed out more than once that the tread is exactly the same. Same shape, size, and proportion on all the footprints no matter the size of the print. Why can't you acknowledge that?


Opinions, much like assholes, everyone has.
Unfortunately, not many people will always like the 'smell' of yours, and will tell you that theirs is better.
I like my own brew.



I believe the OP originally asked others what they thought.
Not, as you seem to think, asking others to tell him what to think.
Your post is about as lame as that 'skeptic' user claiming this thread was an effort to sell a book... furthermore saying 'i won't check the link, because i bet you there is a link to a book somewhere on that page'... Gee... I wonder if that lump even read anything IN this thread, besides looking at the pictures.

Hell. Some of you people should learn how to LISTEN to others, and generate your own opinion. NOT FORCE your opinion on others.

Kudos to the OP. A good find, although I personally, unfortunately agree with others that two of those three prints do look a little too similar. I don't have any 'Expert' opinion on the subject, just commenting on what I see, to be honest. Judging from Internos' links to the NASA site, as well, I'd assume that they were the same boot to make the two first prints. Thanks again for expanding on your OP, and adding more info as you find it.

Keep up your work in searching for more anomalies, and good luck in finding more to bring to others attention, should they wish to find out about them.

Another last input:

I've noticed of late that most of the 'skeptics' on this board are not true skeptics. They simply will not believe in some things, no matter what is presented to them, or how it is presented. These people have already reached their conclusion, and won't be swayed. Don't waste your time on them. Lets try to get back to the OP, and discuss this rationally. There's no need to force your opinion on anyone.

Cheers,

J


reply posted on 5-12-2008 @ 08:10 AM by mikesingh
Originally posted by Europa733
The problem gets even worth, people here have given the OP simple explanations but he does not seem to give them any credit.
Europa aka Buck


So what's your problem Europa aka Buck? This is a darn discussion with a lot of posters having different opinions for chrissake. Is it blue murder to wait for more opinions before calling it a day? I know you are imbibed with a lot of intellectual honesty that I lack, but heck, is it a requirement here on ATS that the OP has to give credit after 'x' number of posts? Can this be done after some more inputs?

There have been very good and cogent explanations from posters that I appreciate. But you seem to be in a tearing hurry, what?

Take some effort to read the opening post which asks, "So what do you guys think?" They are giving their opinions, their thinking. I didn't ask for any explanations or proof, to convince me or anyone else that these are alien footprints or otherwise, did I? It's just opinions! Plain English, I thought, Dr Watson!

And oh yes! Talking of intellectual honesty, could you please explain WHY in this post,
www.abovetopsecret.com...
when you made a translation from French to English you deliberately "forgot" to mention that the hypothesis of a bird passing close to the camera was "perfectly acceptable"? And you also deliberately "forgot" to mention that there's a colony of pigeons in the clock of the photo? And you conveniently "forgot" that they concluded that the bird explanation was the one to favor since it was the most likely?

You translated the article mentioning only the part that you wanted to translate, omitting DELIBERATELY the parts that were supporting the contrary!

Wow! I thought people in glass houses shouldn't be throwing stones, what? You must've heard that song by Madonna, "Papa don't preach". Get your house in order buddy before talking of intellectual honesty!

Jeez! The self styled preachers we have to put up with!

Cheers!




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