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Alien Footprints On The Moon?


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reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 04:53 AM by NavalFC


Originally posted by alyosha1981
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I see a clear diference in the size of the footprints even in the hi res image you provided the lower one looks more"deeply" embeded while the smaller one isn't as deep.



ok you go around walking on a rocky and dirt environment. your feet will not go down the same way at every spot on your foot due to the effects pof pressure on the soil being held up at some points and not at others by rock, ad also as numerous people have said they could easily be partials as well, you dont get a full print every time, this combined with any turning or pivoting they did



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"I dont understand how it happened, thus it must be a conspiracy!"



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reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 04:55 AM by nablator


Originally posted by alyosha1981
I'm no image expert but if this were a partial how would you explain the diference in width as well as length?I had to highlight the image so I could see better.
[edit on 4-12-2008 by alyosha1981]

You highlighted the footprint partially . It's much bigger. See: history.nasa.gov...



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reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 05:04 AM by Waldy


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I have to agree with you NavalFC, after viewing the hi-res which I had not noticed when I made my previous comments.

The small print is the astronauts left foot. He is clearly turning, you can see the deep heel print and the small stone disrupting the center print and that he puts the weight to his toes and turns his heel to the right disrupting the soil, he might have slightly tripped and the print further to the right is where he put his feet to get balance again.

Case closed.

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reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 05:08 AM by alyosha1981


I didn't change anything in the photo as far as size of highlight only brightness and contrast as well as gamma, I was having a hard time seeing the image(not size) thanks for the hi res image but I still don't see the same size.



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reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 05:11 AM by nablator


Originally posted by alyosha1981
I see a clear diference in the size of the footprints even in the hi res image you provided the lower one looks more"deeply" embeded while the smaller one isn't as deep.

The angle between the pattern and the direction of the sun is not the same, the shadow is actually longer on the "small" footprint on the right. There is a third footprint between the two, with the horizontal tread pattern casting no shadows at all because it is parallel to the direction of sunlight). All three footprints have nearly the same depth.



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reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 05:22 AM by Batmanatee


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Thanks for posting the hi-res image, nablator! The tread size is what did it for me. Also, there are other partial foot prints in that shot, one directly above the larger of the prints that's obviously been stepped over, and another to the right of the partial print, from someone walking in a different direction.

I also had a thought about the guy in the photo by the boulder. Way to be part of a SECRET space force, dude! He had to be fired for that, don't you think? "Jerry, we're supposed to be a secret! Get the hell out of shot!"



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reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 05:22 AM by alyosha1981


Ok I see the print in the middle, however my question is why does the "heel cup" of the print in question not seem to be of consistant size with the lower print, in a boot you should have the same size soles unless you have two different sized feet! The hel portion of the print in question is clear enough to guess(imo) that the entire heel made contact ans not partial contact as has been mentioned. The outline of the heel portion can clearly be seen in your hi res pic. I think those boots did not have narrow heels like tennis shoes rather a more uniform wider build( I'll look into this tomorow its late)



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reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 05:36 AM by king9072


This picture says it all for me:




K, as I always say, you may not know the who, what, where, when, why, the fact that there is a discrepancy in an official photo should set off bells for everyone.

The astronaut suits of those missions were all identical. So how in something so publicized and something that alot of people claim really happen, is there two different suits being worn on the moon.

Now personally I don't really believe in the apollo moon landings, but the picture above makes the whole secret program seem much more probable. Because on a set of a movie that was soooo important at the time, there would be no way they would just happen to have two different wardrobe suits. Come on!!! They would be on the ball with that, its the most obvious thing. Maybe there really is a secret program, we'll likely never know.



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reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 05:42 AM by nablator


Originally posted by alyosha1981
I think those boots did not have narrow heels like tennis shoes rather a more uniform wider build( I'll look into this tomorow its late)

Yes I see what you mean. The narrower print on the right is caused by its different orientation. Perspective narrows vertical distance by 30% at 45°. Maybe the terrain is not perfectly level too, so it could add some bias to the perspective (red arrows). The left print is also closer, further changing the angle.



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reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 05:53 AM by NavalFC


Originally posted by king9072
This picture says it all for me:




K, as I always say, you may not know the who, what, where, when, why, the fact that there is a discrepancy in an official photo should set off bells for everyone.

The astronaut suits of those missions were all identical. So how in something so publicized and something that alot of people claim really happen, is there two different suits being worn on the moon.

Now personally I don't really believe in the apollo moon landings, but the picture above makes the whole secret program seem much more probable. Because on a set of a movie that was soooo important at the time, there would be no way they would just happen to have two different wardrobe suits. Come on!!! They would be on the ball with that, its the most obvious thing. Maybe there really is a secret program, we'll likely never know.


They arent two different suits!!!! On the left the astronaut is clearly hunched forward caausing the part on his back to be raised up and conceal the forward part of his head, where in the right hes standing straight and their is no obstruction!



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reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 05:55 AM by Monger


So the Moon People wear boots with identical tread patterns to the Apollo astronauts? Wow, talk about coincidence!



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reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 05:59 AM by NavalFC


Originally posted by Monger
So the Moon People wear boots with identical tread patterns to the Apollo astronauts? Wow, talk about coincidence!



hahah ow good point. I hadnt even thought to say that but its true.


And to the guy with the spacesuit "anomaly":
science.howstuffworks.com...
history of the space suit,



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reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 06:16 AM by snowen20


I understand the desire for an alien moon base, and evidence to prove it.

But alas I fear that no matter how hard you strain on this that foot print will remain a footprint belonging to a human astronaut.
Rocks will be nothing more than rocks, and space suites will simply be altered by light fluctuations and shadow fall.


If I had the power to wish things into existance, I'd wish me up a couple billion of whatever the best currency will be in 10 years.

In the mean time keep wishing.



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reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 07:17 AM by seb2882


Shouldn't the tread pattern be smaller if it were a smaller boot?



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reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 07:26 AM by skeptic_al


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It amazes me the extent of steer shizen people will go to in
order to flog a book.



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reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 07:27 AM by mikesingh


Originally posted by Monger
So the Moon People wear boots with identical tread patterns to the Apollo astronauts? Wow, talk about coincidence!


No! They don't! Check it out here:


Source: LunarArcheology

And notice the ridge in the bottom right pic? Now that's NOT the astronaut boot design. But could this be two prints overlapping? But then this is a five ridge pattern!

So all this discussion of a twisting boot in the dust, many boot marks, overlapping footprints, dust blown over, lighter left foot, gravitational effect on the left side etc, etc, doesn't hold much water!

And what's more, there seem to be not two, but three types of footprints! Wow! No equipment standardization at NASA, what?

Cheers!



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reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 07:36 AM by Waldy


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This is a joke right? You clearly must see that its the same imprint but at different angle and with different soil compositions (not pure dust).



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reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 07:47 AM by mikesingh


Originally posted by skeptic_al
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It amazes me the extent of steer shizen people will go to in order to flog a book.



Huh? Don't get amazed! You're on ATS! Otherwise let's just shut it down and open a site of the likes of the LANL archives and flog it instead. There's the sheer (Not steer as you mentioned) shizen that all go to with anything concerning UFO/Aliens. It's utter clap trap, isn't it? So what are you doing here?

Anyway, thanks for your very scientific analysis and invaluable contribution as can be seen in your one liner post above. Your input has resulted in a very educated evaluation. Jeez!

It's amazing to see a self styled 'expert' who has analyzed it so cogently that it has all been explained in just one line!

And what's this about 'flogging a book'??

Cheers!



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reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 08:04 AM by BlackProjects


One thought I had was that people who have seen "greys" which are small maybe 4-5 feet tall usually never mention their feet. Boots I suppose but I would guess they would be proportional in size but haven't really heard any "witness" ever mention that.



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reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 08:28 AM by sdtietge


thats the same guy with his visor up look on the 1st page of this forum you will find that its the same guy with his visor up



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