There's been enough evidence throughout our written history of some type of off world or advanced civilization visitiations. If it's their objective
to intefere as little as possible than it's wrong to conclude they aren't already here and won't make a huge change in our evolution.
Some way or another, the truth gets out. But if it's their objective to keep us from advancing and than become a threat to other worlds, than they
still have a huge impact on our future.
Just by the notion of UFOs seems to be enough to change they way we view space travel. Apparently enough for our militaries to shoot down and copy
their science.
I can see the point in keeping humans from possessing certain technologies we could destroy ourselves even quicker with such as with some alleged
terrorists.
If alien visitors have already been here for several thousands of years, we might not actually see too many advances technologically until we reach
some level of trust as if ascension.
In that respect I see the OP's point.
If aliens exist they are of no consequence to you!, page 4
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reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 05:04 PM by spacebot
Having in mind the following context:
Can be found here (ATS Thread)www.abovetopsecret.com...
Found on this video
Taken from this subject
[edit on 4-12-2008 by spacebot]
Do a search on Google
then do a bit more
If you find more clues be free to post to relevant threads or u2u me.
I am still trying to fill in many blanks myself but I think I might be on to something.
[please re read the answer, the post is edited with more links added]
[edit on 4-12-2008 by spacebot]
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Using a high-potency light source, the Soviet cosmonauts used
Morse Code to welcome the visitors in Russian. There was no reaction
from the aliens. The Soviets tried English: "Are you reading us?" again,
no reaction. On the third try, still in Morse Code, the cosmonauts
tranmitted a binary number: 101101, which expressed a certain geometric
figure. The aliens responded with another sequence of numbers, not the
same as theirs. Later the cosmonauts verified that the aliens had
transmitted the value of the letter "E," based on a logarithmic
configuration applied frequently by the computers on Salyut 6, when
programmed to graphically linearize the relative curves of a complex
mathematical function.
Can be found here (ATS Thread)www.abovetopsecret.com...
Found on this video
Taken from this subject
[edit on 4-12-2008 by spacebot]
Do a search on Google
then do a bit more
If you find more clues be free to post to relevant threads or u2u me.
I am still trying to fill in many blanks myself but I think I might be on to something.
[please re read the answer, the post is edited with more links added]
[edit on 4-12-2008 by spacebot]
[edit on 4-12-2008 by spacebot]
[edit on 4-12-2008 by spacebot]
reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 05:19 PM by danx
reply to post by Mozzy
Mozzy,
I applaud your patience, as it's obviously clear that 95% of the replies were by people that either didn't read your post, or didn't understood it.
Don't let this affect you. I assure you'll have plenty of good, serious and intelligent discussions here on ATS
Regarding your premise, I agree with with your assessments and deductions. It does sound logical, at least to us (humans).
We can't (and shouldn't) assume, however, that alien beings would think like us, or have the sort of interests that are logic, or that we can even imagine.
Mozzy,
I applaud your patience, as it's obviously clear that 95% of the replies were by people that either didn't read your post, or didn't understood it.
Don't let this affect you. I assure you'll have plenty of good, serious and intelligent discussions here on ATS
Regarding your premise, I agree with with your assessments and deductions. It does sound logical, at least to us (humans).
We can't (and shouldn't) assume, however, that alien beings would think like us, or have the sort of interests that are logic, or that we can even imagine.
reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 05:48 PM by spacebot
Psychology. Yes! A very deciding factor.
There was never a research about finding out the possible social behavior and psychological motives of supposed species that could be visiting our planet, like these:
www.rense.com...
Our psychology lead us to assume aliens could be in general like this:
en.wikipedia.org...
The truth might be somewhere in the middle.
If science does not want to deal with any of the above, should not be a concern to people that actually seek the truth. The next generation might be capable of doing this. If the current generation won't ask questions, then the next generations wont be able to seek for answers.
Someone, somewhere, somehow will find some right answers.
There was never a research about finding out the possible social behavior and psychological motives of supposed species that could be visiting our planet, like these:
www.rense.com...
Our psychology lead us to assume aliens could be in general like this:
en.wikipedia.org...
The truth might be somewhere in the middle.
If science does not want to deal with any of the above, should not be a concern to people that actually seek the truth. The next generation might be capable of doing this. If the current generation won't ask questions, then the next generations wont be able to seek for answers.
Someone, somewhere, somehow will find some right answers.
reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 09:48 PM by Mozzy
reply to post by spacebot
this is going to sound lame but honestly i can't remember where i read it. there was a very solid debunking of vimanas. hehe, could've been right here on ats. i don't remember the details but it was solid.
i love believing in the ancient hindu scripts and the hopis as well.
i'd like to make some additions. i figured it would come to this but it's a valid point however unlikely.
that is the "pyscho marauding random alien death squad" theory.
without an entire culture supporting this habit through millions of years of evolution in slaying each other then finally resting on science to futher their deeds this would be impossible from the get go. an opposing faction of same alien race would neutralize the threat until one or the other wins.
however, this, sadly, is a possibility. it could very well be that a maverick group of aliens stole or otherwise came across the knowledge/technology to support their heinous deeds and are now free to roam and cause chaos wherever they go.
corruption would win in any society based on these morals and would very likely not survive longer than a few thousand years, if that. which means they could only conquer so many planets before collapsing. how old is the universe? you get my point.
the only other alternative to this section of alien life would be a "galactic" overlord that has managed to gain control through a series of subversive, manipulative techniques designed with the express intent of nothing but destruction. again all we have to do is look at the probabilities to clear this up.
first off, what would cause such an overlord? surely he would not arise in a vacuum. he wuold be intimately connected to another race that pissed him off to begin with. which means he would be grounded so to speak and his methods would dictate a "just" outcome in his own mind. meaning that humans were somehow involved from the start or near thereafter and probably instigated it. we have done no such thing.
secondly, the galactic overlord would only be concerned with humanity if we were prized POW's. in this case, yes, it would affect us greatly but this entire line of thinking is so abyssimally improbable it's just plain dumb.
this is going to sound lame but honestly i can't remember where i read it. there was a very solid debunking of vimanas. hehe, could've been right here on ats. i don't remember the details but it was solid.
i love believing in the ancient hindu scripts and the hopis as well.
i'd like to make some additions. i figured it would come to this but it's a valid point however unlikely.
that is the "pyscho marauding random alien death squad" theory.
without an entire culture supporting this habit through millions of years of evolution in slaying each other then finally resting on science to futher their deeds this would be impossible from the get go. an opposing faction of same alien race would neutralize the threat until one or the other wins.
however, this, sadly, is a possibility. it could very well be that a maverick group of aliens stole or otherwise came across the knowledge/technology to support their heinous deeds and are now free to roam and cause chaos wherever they go.
corruption would win in any society based on these morals and would very likely not survive longer than a few thousand years, if that. which means they could only conquer so many planets before collapsing. how old is the universe? you get my point.
the only other alternative to this section of alien life would be a "galactic" overlord that has managed to gain control through a series of subversive, manipulative techniques designed with the express intent of nothing but destruction. again all we have to do is look at the probabilities to clear this up.
first off, what would cause such an overlord? surely he would not arise in a vacuum. he wuold be intimately connected to another race that pissed him off to begin with. which means he would be grounded so to speak and his methods would dictate a "just" outcome in his own mind. meaning that humans were somehow involved from the start or near thereafter and probably instigated it. we have done no such thing.
secondly, the galactic overlord would only be concerned with humanity if we were prized POW's. in this case, yes, it would affect us greatly but this entire line of thinking is so abyssimally improbable it's just plain dumb.
reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 11:36 PM by InfaRedMan
Originally posted by Mozzy
i'm saying that due the contraints on interspace travel a sufficiently advanced species would very likely be no wehre near us and pprobably not even in this same galaxy.
Firstly, the constraints in travel you allude to are only ours. You have no way of determining what an advanced species is or isn't capable of. To suggest you do know is plain ignorant!
Secondly, do you even understand how many stars populate our Milky Way Galaxy - not to mention the sheer amount of orbiting planets we cannot yet register using current technologies?
There are, technically, about 200 billion stars in the Milky Way galaxy, but if you count the small-mass stars, however, there can be around 400 billion.
Source: WikiAnswers
So with your infinite wisdom and abilities, you are able to remote view every one of these stars and their orbiting planets (where applicable) and tell us all here today that we are the only life in our Galaxy!
Let me guess.. In a previous life you also thought the world was flat right? This kind of blatant narrow mindedness does everyone here at ATS a disservice! It's so ridiculous, it's a borderline troll!
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