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reply posted on 3-12-2008 @ 08:50 PM by ashamedamerican

Originally posted by Mozzy
reply to post by ashamedamerican

yes but that wouldn't be any different than when the stock market crashes or when soldiers commit suicide from returning from war. it's the same thing.

It's not even remotely close to the same thing.
You're talking about the difference between stock market crashes or soldiers committing suicide and

planet ruling, abductive, self serving aliens that are here to "eat your face off" and make your mom watch

as you put it in your own words.
I don't know where you came up with this logic but you really need to rethink it.

reply posted on 3-12-2008 @ 08:50 PM by NavalFC

Originally posted by Mozzy
you were off topic to start with. that was forgivable due to the nature of teh discussion but you should've picked up the pieces by now. you obviously didn't read my post.

Off topic? YES I did read your post, and I addressed the topic adequately. Your just being semantical now.

reply posted on 3-12-2008 @ 08:51 PM by chapter29

reply to post by Mozzy

We are talking about aliens that are already around, why would they need humanity? Why would they see you as an important commodity?

C'mon man...

Don't WE see cows, water, plants, dank-weed, minerals, textiles and even ourselves as MAJOR commodoties..? Big time - our society revolves around the need to sell, trade and consume commodities...

Even if they have advanced technology and even have their own set of ethics and morals (kinda like us...) they would still be interested in this planet...

They didn't get 'advanced' by being complacent....

reply posted on 3-12-2008 @ 08:52 PM by NavalFC

reply to post by RFBurns

Discovery of Aliens goes a bit beyond what previous discoveries have done. Discovering aliens chnges the paradigm of what it means to be human, of how common life is and so forth and the nature of what it is to exist as a intelligent civilization. All of those things change when a discovery like that is made.

reply posted on 3-12-2008 @ 08:53 PM by mind is the universe

Originally posted by NavalFC
reply to post by mind is the universe

sorry but that was a load of dung. The Theory of evolution is one of the most supported theories in all of science in terms of evidence. The fossil record and genetic record all support it and show a clear line of ancestry and descent.

the intelligent design argument is bull.

Intellegent design is bull cus you say so. Oh you need to snap out of your box pal.

In a few hundred years we will be doing the same thing ffs. God the ignorance pouring out of is laughable on a good day, and must be ignored on a bad day.

Theory of evolution can stil have intellegent design behind it. I.e God, divine, allah call it what you like.

Third point. The evidence of how we came to be, is NOT a clear line. Infact since we've found more missling branches of homo erectus species,(even hobbit like species found only a few years ago in timor) the realisation that Neanderthal is more distantly related to us than previously thought. Scientist have went through the mapping of the whole family tree where the evolving from ape to man over the last few years. The conclusion is that scientist's now have more missing links as a result. Nobody knows how Cro magnon man(homo sapiens) came to be or whos we are directly decended too next in line below us

However we do have a common ancestor homo erectus, which was a half man half ape hominoid that lived the earth for pretty much over a milion years up till I think 100,000 years ago. But we are still a distant cousin of Neanderthal. Even little as 15 years ago, many thought we evolved from Neanderthal from Euriope. This is now also incorrect. There are no other connections after this (homo erectus) species and us now present day man. So this gap is about a million years, and thats a missing link. We are far more evolved than Homo erectus, yet it's the closest ancestor we have!!

50,000 to 20,000 years ago in Europe our blood, hair, DNA, eyes skin, blood changed also. Language also started in Europe too. No actual evidence to suggest this is just evolution, bar our skin may change due to milder climates. But explain the rest?

No one knows how RH- blood types came into our species! 7% of modern human's only have it. Why?

My point is, there is more and more missling links to be found the further we dig! The human development from ape is beyond mapped out.

[edit on 3-12-2008 by mind is the universe]

reply posted on 3-12-2008 @ 08:53 PM by Mozzy

i covered that in my post. if aliens came from across the galaxy then they would ALREADY have a sustainable energy source.

if they came from earth.. read teh post.

****PLEASE QUIT TALKING ABOUT INTELLIGENT DESIGN VS. EVOLUTION*****

start your own thread

[edit on 3-12-2008 by Mozzy]

reply posted on 3-12-2008 @ 08:57 PM by vexatious_sensation

reply to post by Mozzy

Fine!

Talk to yourself!

reply posted on 3-12-2008 @ 09:00 PM by RFBurns

Originally posted by NavalFC
reply to post by RFBurns

Discovery of Aliens goes a bit beyond what previous discoveries have done. Discovering aliens chnges the paradigm of what it means to be human, of how common life is and so forth and the nature of what it is to exist as a intelligent civilization. All of those things change when a discovery like that is made.

Perhaps to YOU it might, but to the rest of humanity,,and you cannot speak for the rest only for yourself..I would at least give humanity the opportunity, and the chance..to find out for themselves and perhaps you just might be surprised.

Give humanity more credit than your doing friend. It certianly includes you too you know.

Cheers!!!!

reply posted on 3-12-2008 @ 09:13 PM by ashamedamerican

Here let me run you through a hypothetical situation according to your theory and see if you still believe it's probable after.

Wife: Honey what are you watching?
Husband: I don't know but it's on every channel.

YouTube Link

Husband: Hey sweetey have you seen the Cheetos?
Wife: Yeah but you're not going to want any.
Husband: O yeah why's that?
Wife: Because blood got spilled all over them when those aliens ate little Johnny's face off.
Husband: How do you know that aliens ate his face off?
Wife: Because I watched them do it.
Husband: Oh...
Wife: What time is Dr. Phil on?
Husband: I don't know but I hope it's soon this breaking news stuff is so boring.

Possible?
Sure why not, it's also possible that
"monkeys could fly out of my butt." - Mike Myers
However it is not very probable.

reply posted on 3-12-2008 @ 09:14 PM by Forest

Interesting ideas, but taking into consideration some of the hypotheticals you posed.

I think if in fact aliens did at one time inhabit Earth, originally or it was a secondary home or outpost, I'm sure they wouldn't be that delighted to see us living here. Quite possibly due to our environmental, natural resource, and pollution 'policies'. I'd hate to leave town for any amount of time and come back and find someone else living in my house and doing as they pleased, I wouldn't be happy in that scenario.

Or.. they might not even see us, or consider us as intelligent, to them we may comparable to a species we see as a 'lower' one, possibly relate us to a dog. Which would lead to them possibly not communicating with us. They'd see us and think of as nothing more then tribes of the most dominant species, nothing more.

This thread moved very quick, I'm probably off-topic also.

reply posted on 3-12-2008 @ 09:16 PM by Mozzy

reply to post by Forest

which is exactly why we wouldn't be of consequence to them.

reply posted on 3-12-2008 @ 09:18 PM by Mozzy

reply to post by ashamedamerican

again, you are assuming an ALIEN INVASION!!

this is not reality, this is fantasy. my post clearly stated that the conquering aliens originated from Earth. not vice versa.

if we were being invaded by aliens it would OBVIOUSLY affect us.

this is not the case, and it never will be.

reply posted on 3-12-2008 @ 09:26 PM by Forest

Originally posted by Mozzy
which is exactly why we wouldn't be of consequence to them.

Now I believe I am understanding what you're saying. We would be considered a colony of ants, an infestation basically. And in every scenario, it isn't that hard to get rid of 'ant' nor is there much reason to do so.

But, if in fact they are a war like race, I'm sure they'd see us as invaders, and attempt to take it back, but the amount of energy and destruction that would be needed to wipe us out would defile the earth, making it pointless in retrospect.

[edit on 12/3/2008 by Forest]

reply posted on 3-12-2008 @ 09:29 PM by cropmuncher

Originally posted by Mozzy

The foundations of humanity will not be changed regardless of what we find. Sociologically, people will be shocked for about 5 seconds and then they will continue to watch Dr. Phil until the new Alien Expert gets his own talk show.

Yes they will, and even more so. They will now have more competition to be better than. You're assuming that finding aliens will benefit mankind. If we discover an alien race that eats there own feces and their art consists of smearing their nostrils on paper then humanity will very much keep their divisions.

It probably would rock our foundations of knowledge but it would not fundamentally change the way hujanity views itself as a whole. Humanity will continue to do exactly what they are told to do and nothing else.

You are wrong their mozzy on pretty much all of that imo. It will have huge implications on the human race & have a major effect on how we view a lot of things and for the better i would say. although im not sure how the religious posse would accept a rethink on their beliefs, no doubt make it fit in some how in a way as to save their beliefs and prob hijack the new way of things in the name of their own religion. Makes you wonder why the vatican had a sudden back peddle on their alien views recently.

reply posted on 3-12-2008 @ 09:35 PM by chapter29

reply to post by Mozzy

my post clearly stated that the conquering aliens originated from Earth. not vice versa.

I just realized how lame this thread is...

reply posted on 3-12-2008 @ 09:37 PM by ashamedamerican

Originally posted by Mozzy
reply to post by ashamedamerican

again, you are assuming an ALIEN INVASION!!

this is not reality, this is fantasy. my post clearly stated that the conquering aliens originated from Earth. not vice versa.

if we were being invaded by aliens it would OBVIOUSLY affect us.

this is not the case, and it never will be.

With all due respect, you are basing your whole arguement on assumptions.
You can't assume that you would have the slightest clue what their intentions would be, how they would react to us, or how we would react to them.
As I stated before we live in a world where people discriminate, hate, and kill other people for being different, yet you think people wouldn't even bat an eyelash over

planet ruling, abductive, self serving aliens that are here to "eat your face off" and make your mom watch.

I'm sorry but that is just a ridiculous thing to state.
I won't be posting in this thread again because this has become an exercise in futility, your logic surrounding this arguement is so flawed that words can barely begin to describe the depth of it.

reply posted on 3-12-2008 @ 09:43 PM by Mozzy

all you need to do is read the post.

i can assume what their intentions would be and i have assumed and i am correct if not complete. while you're correct that i cannot know their minds i can know the universe that they belong to and the laws that the are subject to on a base level.

it was you that went off topic putting the alien invasion as if it were Earth that was being invaded. as if any rational person would state that bombing their front yard would not affect them.

the person who used my quote to call this thread lame misunderstood as well.

i "assumed" for the purpose of the thread that aliens are real to begin with. i did not say it is real or that we have been invaded.

reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 08:14 AM by InfaRedMan