Neo-cons still preparing for Iran attack, page 2

reply to post by TrueAmerican

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Flag'd & Star'd, TA

Saddens me, how ignorant our leaders can be, in regards to attacking another country. Especially Iran! Sure, we have a superior military, with all the latest weaponry; but they have something our leaders don't mention: devotion to suicide bombing! Thier population is 70% under the age of thirty, and most all of them are happy to die in suicide missions.

Inside Iran: The Ultimate Martyrdom

This fact should chill-to-the-bone, anyone considering going up against them! I just don't see how anyone wins in a place of religious dedication to destroying one's enemies!

reply to post by FRIGHTENER

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Thanks man.

Your post assumes there would be boots on the ground inside Iran, and that is just not likely at this point. NATO is having enough problems keeping troops refreshed in Iraq/Afghanistan. If NATO wasn't so spread thin, I believe there would have been further confrontation in Georgia against the Russians.

But even so you could be right to a degree if thousands of Iranian suicide bombers crossed the border into Iraq. It's another possible consequence if Iran gets attacked, either unilaterally by Israel, or by the US.

The public reaction to a US attack on Iran will be vicious, after the lies that got us into Iraq, and considering the NIE's on Iran. It is estimated that every American family is paying $100 a month financing the current wars. For military families, add to that the blood sacrifice of their children. How the administration would sell another war, on top of all that's happened already, is beyond me. Foolish and impossible.

reply to post by TrueAmerican

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You're welcome!

Yeah, boots on ground only AFTER aerial bombardament back to the stone age! I guess that's part of what I meant, that the surviving populace will be filled with so much rage at another 'dis-honorable' pre-emptive shock-and-awe campaign, that they'll REALLY wanna fling themselves at any American, anywhere, anytime, any way possible, for generations to come!

You're right about U.S. citizens having a bad reaction, should our twusted weaders attack Iwan; what a shame, we only get to react! They go-ahead with thier plans and agendas, with NO approval from us, the people. Isn't it disheartening, that the gov. who is supposed to be our servant, has become our master? Oh yeah, your signature covers that!!!

Will Bush Attack Iran?

Or will he dump it all into Obama's lap?

reply to post by dooper

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What do you anticipate the Russian response would be to such an attack, Dooper, realistically?

I can't see the Russians just standing by and doing nothing. Not after the Georgia affair and the 'Medvedev Doctrine.'

reply to post by dooper

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"Done properly" to you sounds like you are advocating the use of nuclear weapons. And to me, there could be nothing more IMPROPER, considering the consequences of such a stupidity.

IF, and that's a big IF, Iran is still pursuing a nuclear weapons program, it is bound to be so secretive and hidden, as in underground deep, that it really only leaves one option- Nuclear Spray and Pray- if they have any chance whatsoever of stalling the program. Because even in a best case scenario with direct hits, stalling is all an attacker will accomplish. And the fervor with which Iran will pursue nuclear weapons after that will increase beyond all measure, including their willingness to proliferate to terrorists for assistance.

This notion that Israel or the US can bomb all things nuclear in Iran to destroy their program is very foolish, and will cause tremendous loss of life and infrastructure. And there still is no telling what Russia might do at that point. As shown in Georgia, you can bet the response will be quick, no warning, and devastating. Who's to say they wouldn't nuke the entire Persian Gulf Fleet to rid themselves of the pesky mosquitos threatening their part of the world? And they could decide to take Israel and anything in the Mediterranean Sea with them as well.

According to that very doctrine (thanks chips):

The five points, Medvedev said, were firstly, the superiority of the fundamental principles of international law.

The second point was that the world must be multipolar.

"A uni-polar world is unacceptable," said Medvedev, adding that Russia could "not accept a world order where all decisions are made by one side, even such a powerful one as the U.S."

"Such a world is unstable and threatened by conflicts," he added.

Thirdly, he said, Russia does not seek confrontation with any other country.

"Russia is not looking for isolation," he said. "We will develop, in as much as is possible, friendly ties with Europe, the U.S., and other countries in the world."

Fourthly, Russia will protect the lives of its citizens, "wherever they are."

The fifth point was that Moscow would seek to develop ties in regions with whom it has traditionally had friendly relations.

"Russia, just like other countries in the world, has regions where it has its privileged interests," said Medvedev

So one could see from that bolded point four, how the loss of Russian scientists in Iran could potentially push hot buttons that incite furious retaliation, all previous Western imperialism at their back door not withstanding.

Originally posted by wayno
You guys are scarin the crap out of me.

Well sorry about that cuz, but the world is a scary place nowadays. What scares the crap out of me is that Bush might just try to attack Iran's sites right before he leaves office, leaving Obama to deal with the "blowback." That would not be cool.

But what does he care when he can just make a hasty retreat to his property in Northern Paraguay

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